As always, thank you RCSE!
Mike
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On the other hand John,
I belong to three clubs in my area and don't believe that any of the members
are competitors in any events of any type.
Fred
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From: John Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:15 PM
To: Jim Deck; Soaring List
Subject:
Brand new Ch43 Tx Module. $25 Shipped
Mike
Las Vegas, NV
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It was bad form of me to post part of a private reply w/o the permission
of the editor of Model Aviation regardless of my good intentions. I
apologize to the RCSE forum for my bad behavior and the poor example it
sets.
Jim Deck
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Stylus with:
Glider Card
50 Model Memory Card
1650mAh battery pack
Ch 39 Module
Ch 35 Module
92185 PCM Rx (Ch 39)
Neck Strap
DSC Cord
All Manuals
I bought this transmitter new in 2001 and have kept it in a case when
I'm not using it to fly. It's in excellent condition with two
exceptions. Th
Stopped in Buffalo today after a rainy day of demoing beach cleaners in
Toronto (yeah I sold some :-)...
In any case after gorging on Buffalo wings and Killians, I met up with Kurt
from Niagrafrontier Models to take custody of a brand new F5J ship, the Pulsar
2005. This is a 78" organic co
Mark, yesterday I picked up a NIB Saratoga Windsong (Shipped from Dodgson in
Dec 1982 - still in perfect condition and I don't believe any of the pieces
other than instructions have been outside the box). So I just happen to
have the building instructions and a Dodgson products flyer sitting on my
George L Meyers wrote:
The acquisition program was started 10-15 years ago in California but,
it never came to about. I don't know definitely why.
The District X Regional Flying Site proposed for Visalia, CA died due to
environmental concerns on the part of Fish and Wildlife. Seems that so
Bob Hunt is a nice guy, and a real good guy to work
for... BUT... interesting he should say that. In this very Nats issue he
still managed to get 8 pages of detailed CL competition with full color
pictures.
CL is always going to get main stream coverage because he likes CL. Life
is not fa
Well Jeff, I guess since I never fly there I do not know what I am talking
about. I have never flown the 6x6 in any club event that MIST has had that I
was there for in a number of years. The only event we fly the 6x6 is our OVSS
Fall Round Up other than the Nats and hopefully the team trials
As Tim stated, History is everything sometimes and it is here. Just take a
good look at the rule book and tell me whan the last time that was really
orgainzed correctly. More to come later.
Marc
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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:33:12PM -0800, Norman E. Timbs, Jr. wrote:
| Yes, the world outside of RC soaring is very different. The soaring
| world is pushed by technology and competition, while the typical
| power club is based on sport/fun flying.
There are powered plane competitions too, and t
Looks like the "free" new-old glider I got is indeed a Windsong. If anybody
knows where I can get a look at a PDF or plain text copy of the manuals for
one, I'd appreciate it.
It's in pretty good shape for being around 20 years old and kept lord knows
where. The H stab pivot is a little boll
The acquisition program was started 10-15 years ago in California but, it
never came to about. I don't know definitely why.
I wouldn't like to see a regional field paid for out of my dues.
California is a long state, even if it was set up in the center of the state
the majority of us would n
Yes, the world outside of RC soaring is very different. The soaring world is
pushed by technology and competition, while the typical power club is based
on sport/fun flying.
Take a Paragon from the late 1970's, a state of the art TD plane and compare
that to the state of the art today. Night and da
My "gut" reaction to the well written suggestion is that the proposed
changes would result in the splintering of the organization and the
resultant arguments for "turf" and the dividing of the budget would result
in it's demise.
I believe that there is much greater strength as one association
Remember John that sadly the RC world and AMA world is much bigger than
soaring alone. I agree that soaring pilots in general seem to compete
more than our powered brethren. But at the power clubs I belong to it is
a tiny group that competes. My local power club has 475 members.
Something like
I've been thinking about the MA editor's response to my comments and
come up with the following:
If the editors of Chicago's newspapers adopted a similar policy, then
articles regarding the recent World Series win of the Chicago White Sox
would have ceased to appear before the Sunday editions f
Tim,
Well thought out points. No flame suit necessary. I appreciate you and others
sharing your insights.
One very minor correction to your note. The AMA says we should not fly over
400' AGL "within 3 miles of an airport", not just anywhere.
I would venture to guess that we in the sailplane
Well, it's an interesting argument. Not taking a side at this point, but
let me ask this question: If the regional VP's aren't representing your soaring
interests well, can you say it's not because of a lack of contact with your
particular interest group? In other words, how often does your c
Hmm, sorta casts some doubts on the necessity of
having the grand shrine to the AMA and it's competitive spirit in Muncie.
If it doesn't really reflect the needs of the members, why are we supporting
it?
I don't mind the web only coverage. Print
magazines are on the way out. Sure wish
John,
count your blessing, you are very fortunate to belong to a good club in a
good area of the country, I envey you Californians. Enjoy
Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
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From: "John Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Deck"
Wow, less than 5%? Sure isn't that number in our club, or the soaring clubs
around Southern California. More like 50%, and in our club that number is
higher. We use competitions as one way to fly together. These are not cut
throat, yet they are competitive. I must be really out of touch with t
Tim,
I have some comments inserted. I don't disagree in principal with your
ideas, however this method would be completely impractical.
My issue with the organization of AMA is that AMA is governed by an
executive council made up of elected regional vice presidents. These
officers are elect
If you will permit me a moment's insanity: this response is nothing but unadulterated, unabashed, ridiculous garbage. And, if I weren't who I am, I'd use lots stronger language than that.
What group, if it has a competition, doesn't devote substantial time/energy/space to reporting its NATIONAL
I was going to hold my tongue on this whole topic, but this sort of set me
off.
(It's raining here and GPS is setting in!)
We simply cannot justify
devoting all of 1/12 of our yearly editorial pages to just one meet - even
if it is the Nats.
But they can justify putting an entire magazine siz
Tim,
I agree 100 percent. Also, that is probably the most well written and thought
out post I have seen on RCSE all year. Kudos to you my man.
See Ya,
Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS
>
> From: "Tim Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/11/01 Tue PM 03:18:21 EST
> To: "RCSE Soaring"
> Subject:
Sad to see Mike Garton leave and that soaring has been significantly
reduced
in the magazine.
The lack of coverage of the NATS is further evidence that the AMA is out
of
touch with what is happening within our hobby.
Ed,
The amount of soaring coverage has not changed. Mike had every other m
I am not at all surprised by the response your recevied from Hunt. I too
have spoken with him and received a similar reaction.
>From his point of view, we hardly exist. Further, he seems to think that
his personal interests trump those of his membership. I do realize that
someone has to make de
Fellow forum members,
I normally don't post private responses in this forum but, by posting
this portion of Bob Hunt's (MA Editor) reply to my comments on the 2005 NATS
MA issue, I can lower my blood pressure a few points. The portion follows:
"I appreciate your comments, but please understa
Very well written. I agree with you. This would make a very good letter
to the Magazine and executive council to stir things up.
One thing; remove the part about DS removing someones head. In case you
don't remember Dave Brown almost outlawed slope combat. I talked to him
about it and he was an
Wow. A great and well-reasoned article. I couldn't agree more.
Tim Bennett wrote:
All the comments I have read on this exchange over the last two days bring
to mind some ideas that have been boiling in my mind for a couple of years
regarding the Academy of Model Aeronautics and how it is orga
Very good analysis, and I agree with all.
Browne Goodwin
Tim, take off your flame suit. I think you covered the topic very well and
I am in agreement with your thoughts.
I've spoken to the editor of the AMA magazine. It was clear to me that he
felt that the soaring community was a tiny part of our hobby. He still
seems to think that control line flyi
Very well written and I agree with, well, everything you said.
This is, IMHO, very good constructive criticism.
-Mike Smith
At 12:18 PM 11/1/2005, Tim Bennett wrote:
All the comments I have read on this exchange over the last two days bring
to mind some ideas that have been boiling in my
All the comments I have read on this exchange over the last two days bring
to mind some ideas that have been boiling in my mind for a couple of years
regarding the Academy of Model Aeronautics and how it is organized.
First, a little background regarding me. I have been a model airplane
hobby
Title: F3X shirts?
The F3J team shirt design is in progress,
should not be much longer.
The team appreciates your support and is
looking forward to getting these available.
Jim
Jim Monaco
President - Rocky Mountain Soaring Association
Denver, CO
http://www.rmsadenver.com
Title: F3X shirts?
When do the F3B and F3J shirts become available? I’d like to support the teams by buying several. TIA gv
Here's an idea - why not someone from the R/C soaring community as the
new AMA Executive Director? If you are interested or know some one who
might be a good candidate, why not pop an email to a member of the selection
committee? Here they are:
Andy Argenio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dave Mat
In six years of flying during the week at Muncie, I have never herd or seen
anyone flying at the soaring site with their card/note in the freq. control
box. All the sailplane flying I have seen during the week has taken place
at Central. It actually is much more convenient than the soaring site.
Price reduced to $135.00 + $15.00 shipping (priority mail + insurance )
I also have pictures that I can send to you.
A.B.
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To:
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: [RCSE] For Sale-Airtronics Adante Sailplane
For
That's not totally true Marc. The locals were saying that on normal days
the guys flying gliders (really one or two). Go over to our soaring
area. The leave their cards on the boards and put a note that they are
over at the soaring area. Kaluf told us we couldn't do that, even
though all the l
Chuck brought up about guys rolling into AMA to fly and finding the Nats going
on and no open flying. Yes, there are a few guys who show up, I have heard
numbers in the hundreds, but in actuallity, Ron Morgan (Nats Manager) says that
maybe 20-30 guys may be close to reality. Now, I know that i
Jeff,
What Kaluf did is SOP at AMA during the week, and since you were not in an
official event, that is where everyone flies at AMA in an uncontrolled
environment. I will admit, it is not a great B site, but to control
frequencies, all fliers have to work from "center" on any open flying da
If you read Dave Brown's column about a year ago he does explain that
the locals were upset about not being able to fly.
He says we need to work out something.
I disagree. This is a national site, the locals have a great field all
year round, this is not their private field.
My feeling was...
It's a Dodgeson Windsong or Lovesong. It is not a Maestro, Maestro
Megan,or Talisman. These Dodgeson sailplanes were of a prior generation
dating back to the early 70's with a round all glass fuselage. Early
versions of the Maestro had a rolled balsa boom. The wing construction on
the Maestro ser
Chuck,
That is what Wood Crafters is all about... kinda up the middle ...
between a fun fly and contest and with Scale added, it really touches most
of the bases. WC 06 will include Speed 400 Electric and Scale cross
country.
I like seeded MOM, it has it's own distinct feeling of tight c
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