Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-09 Thread Bill Conkling
Question: Does it matter that the Government, as Dept of the Army (prior to 1948) was the originator of these designations, as in P-38 or US Air Force as in U-2 etc. and NOT Lockheed (Martin)? And since it wasn't even Lockheed Martin, do they have any rights to it at all? And, I guess this means

RE: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-09 Thread John Derstine
odels http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Simon Van Leeuwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:47 PM > To: Doug McLaren > Cc: fly1milehi; soaring@airage.com > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Copyin

Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-08 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
My apologies, maybe it was you have gave a nice breakdown of copyright versus patent. Good points..which makes me wonder precisely what the original threat of litigation to cease and disist manufacture of replica miniatures was about... Quoting Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Feb

Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-08 Thread Doug McLaren
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:38:35AM -0800, Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: | Apparent(!) patent infringement is what Lockheed Martin (the example in the | original thread) is using to thwart those who wish to offer radio control | models, AND static (plastic) models that look similar to what they built

Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-08 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Once again, like a ruddy bull in a china shop... Not sure which or what Bill you are refering to, but YOU should first "read" what people (including me) "actually" wrote! I will (patiently) wait for your apology as well... To recap for the hard of reading; Copyright is NOT what we were discussi

[RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-08 Thread fly1milehi
Wow!!! MY APPOLOGIES JIM! I thought you were defending the "no harm no foul" crowd. I seem to have a harder time following the threads in RCSE as a guest than I do on RCGroups.com. Sooo.. I guess to Bill and Simon YOU steal it you deserve to be punished in every since of the copyright law

Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-07 Thread Dan Kitching
I think the key here is "personal gain". NO gain, no breaky the rules. I have a question about that one If I copy a popular plan for a 1/4 scale Minimoa, then haven't I have done something that is for personal gain whether I sell it or give it away? The person who receives the plan gains bec

Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-07 Thread Bill Conkling
I think the key here is "personal gain". NO gain, no breaky the rules. .bcAG4YQ Williamsburg, VA On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, fly1milehi wrote: > > Jim > I STRONGLY disagree with your argument that its "basically" okay to > copy plans and designs that are copyrighted materials!!! > > I c

Re: [RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-07 Thread JIM EALY
Greg: You made a big mistake I am the one who is getting flamed for saying that copying plans is stealing!!! Two of the RCSE's biggest posters have both given me grief for complaning about several guys from FL with several Ebay accounts and 1000's of combined sales of plans. When Ebay cont

[RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-07 Thread fly1milehi
Jim I STRONGLY disagree with your argument that its "basically" okay to copy plans and designs that are copyrighted materials!!! I can garauntee you that if you copy plans, artwork, text, (ie. right click and save it to your hard drive, then use the same material to advance your personal wealth

[RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-05 Thread JIM EALY
Hi Simon: I do not agree with most of your points and we can agree to disagree. I am in academia and we have a different view of plagerism. I can assure you that cheating in university classes is more rampant in the last twenty years than it was 20 years before that. I am certain that the very m

[RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-04 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Hi Jim, I respectfully suggest not confusing those who may copy existing designs by way of plans etc with the original intent of this thread. Granted, it may be considered incorrect or downright wrong by some, to copy or worse plagiarize anothers work. The issue of copyright (the validity of wh