[RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-24 Thread Brent Hoover
This leads me to wonder: How easy is it to repair a torn up RAD due to a malfunctioning brain upon arriving at the landing area? Is the repair do-able at the field, i.e. between rounds at a contest? Does the servo geartrain blow instead? Brent Hoover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread ama3655
Ed - If yourshark tooth and skeg are large drag producers something is wrong.Try aligning the skinnyaxis of the skeg with the flight path of the airplane. I'll gladly give up any drag the skarks tooth generates for the landing points they generate. happy trails - Rob Glover You know it's kind

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Michael Lachowski
Well why don't you put a retractable skeg on your model. That way you can have the best of both. While at it. also do a retractable tow hook. And don't forget to slim down that fuse. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL

[RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Jo Grini
Ok I see there were plenty replies after I wrote this but anyhow... The name is Martin Hepperle he has a nice article about drag and linkage http://www.mh-aerotools.de/ Direct link http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/linkage.htm It might seem small but with the small differences in todays

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Paul Emerson
I recently setup top driven flaps and noticed two things: A little trickier to setup, especailly if there is a secondary TE spar and the servos are mounted to the servo cover (are they all this way?). The benefit of the top driven is the linkage is pushing on the fat part of the horn, instead of

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Daryl Perkins
On this noteQuestion for Mr Drela, or any of the aero guys out there... I believe MH's study was geared more towards F3B and higher performance flying, and he came up with a figure of 3%. So let's assume, at TD speeds... linkage hanging out the bottom adds 2% drag to the airframe. If our

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Michael Lachowski
At a high Cl, the linkage drag relative to everything else is pretty small. For a straight TD model, it would be nice to reduce drag a little during the zoom. He who launches highest.. And FWIW, Mark Drela does have internal linkages on his Supra. Or course, some of us also wonder if he

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Richard Hallett
The biggest benefits of RADS for the average flyer are 1. storage and handling and 2. much less landing damage. Rick Richard Hallett Pittsfield ME RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-22 Thread Steve Meyer
I would have to argue number 2. Damage to linkages does not happen because they are external. It happens because you do not get the flaps up before dorking a landing. However similar damage could occur with either method. Steven Meyer SOAR LSF IV At 04:16 PM 6/22/2005, Richard Hallett

[RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-21 Thread AMA3655
I like bottom driven flaps and ailerons for various reasons. According to Dr. Hepperle a properly faired set of 4 linkages on the bottom of a wing add around 3% total drag to a typical F3B airframe. You can go dig around his website and find a number of interesting tidbits.

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-21 Thread John Erickson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:16:51 EDT To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ? I like bottom driven flaps and ailerons for various reasons. According to Dr. Hepperle a properly faired set of 4 linkages on the bottom

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-21 Thread ejfranz
You know it's kind of funny. We spend all this time trying to build the cleanest plane possible with internal linkages and as little drag as possible trying to get that last bit of performance. Then we strap on the large drag inducers know as skegs to stop us on landing. What's wrong with this

Re: [RCSE] Re: top or bottom driven ?

2005-06-21 Thread D Hauch
Thats good Ed.:-) dh You know it's kind of funny. We spend all this time trying to build the cleanest plane possible with internal linkages and as little drag as possible trying to get that last bit of performance. Then we strap on the large drag inducers know as skegs to stop us on