Re: [RCSE] how high really--Sorta

2006-08-30 Thread William Kuhlman
The July 1998 issue of RC Soaring Digest described a pattern of chordwise stripes of varying widths (6" to 1/2") which can be used to estimate altitude. We'll make the article available as a downloadable PDF on the RCSD web site, hopefully tomorrow, Thursday. RCSE subscribers and rcsoaringdi

Re: [RCSE] how high really--Sorta

2006-08-30 Thread junk1
. Does anyone have a > reference, guide or link to information how one might go about utilizing > these stripes as an aid? Specifically I am looking for suggested widths > and > placement of the stripes. On another related note, most hunting scopes (for rifles) have graduated lines on the cross

RE: [RCSE] how high really--Sorta

2006-08-30 Thread Dan Ashenfelter
On a somewhat related note, I know some individuals have used a series of variying width white stripes on the lower surface of the wing as a means of estimating altitude. Obviously this method does not work for very high altitudes when the aircraft is at the very limits of one's vision. For us

FW: RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-30 Thread Mark Wales
Using a Timex alti watch in my Windsong it recorded 3700' AGL as the highest attained. Mark Soaring Is Life!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must

Re: [RCSE] how high really - lost planes

2006-08-28 Thread Jim Porter
> Regis wrote: > A few months ago I lost site of a 3M plane in blue sky. There were about five of us watching when it just `blinked out`. Of course I tried to spin down but it never reappeared. A few weeks latter, another flier recounted a similar experience on this list. That got me thinking

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-28 Thread Douglas, Brent
When I got my specs redone, I got into this discussion with my eye doc (that happened to be an ex-flight surgeon / perception researcher at Wright Patt) about flying RC sailplanes, and how I don't see that great at distance. He brought up an example about experiments with the red flag exercises in

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-28 Thread Bill Groft
Take a look at the Zlog. http://www.hexpertsystems.com/zlog/index.html It is an altitude data logger for $70. Bill Groft -Original Message- From: Lighthorse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:44 AM To: CapnCrunchie; Soaring @ airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread JoeJanWurts
The highest that I've verified was around 1850 m if I remember correctly, a couple of years ago with a Picolario. I used to put my Casio altimeter watch in my XC, and it had a max altitude, along with max rate of climb and summation of altitude gained.The highest I recorded with the watch w

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread rsiegel
ack heat! (squirt guns; Ron, Arthur & Don P-) -- Rudy Siegel, AMA 131126 CD Civis Aerius Sum Subject: RE: [RCSE] how high really Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I got dropped off at 2,000 feet with a scale ship, all white, on a dark blue sky day... I had trouble seeing

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Norman E. Timbs, Jr.
ember of Joe's "Acme Sailplane Racing Team") -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:29 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really You guys don't have to believe me... I had a tough time

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Brent
I got dropped off at 2,000 feet with a scale ship, all white, on a dark blue sky day... I had trouble seeing it immediately. Took about 2 minutes to (and it hurts to type this) bleed off altitude to get it where I was seeing it again. I've since gotten 'scrip sunglasses in a reddish brown to help

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Jack Dubich
riginal Message - From: "Daryl Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Randall Brust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread CapnCrunchie
If money is no object and you want to keep track of your max altitudes without the need of a laptop, one can go to Paragear and get some very rugged equipment. Check eBay also for the same things. These units are tough and take a LOT of abuse - mine is constantly getting dropped and knocked around

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-27 Thread Lighthorse
This would probably be cool to use Suunto e203 http://www.suuntowatches.com/Suunto-Escape.pro -- Ken York County Soaring "Lighthorse" Team YCS Silence is Golden On 8/27/06, CapnCrunchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A good source for the Suunto altimeter watch is http://www.rei.com/outlet . Kee

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread CapnCrunchie
A good source for the Suunto altimeter watch is http://www.rei.com/outlet . Keep your eye out at this site because they often go on sale at the end of the seasons (summer/winter). I picked up mine for about $120 'n change... ;^)    Blue skies, Doug Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving ab

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Daryl Perkins
You guys don't have to believe me... I had a tough time believing it myself. But one of the arts of cross country flying is keeping the model in the correct location in relation to the vehicle - virtually directly overhead. The reason for this is to maintain visual. I've seen the guys in Muncie fl

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread James V. Bacus
I asked permission from the CD during our last contest for orbital re-entry...;-) At 10:47 PM 8/26/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as "how high can you get?" You can get a LOT higher than anybody would believe. It's a Zen Thing that no instrumentation will ever capture. If you can

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread AMA3655
EMAIL PROTECTED]>, soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since disappeared, the wings were literally toothpicks, and were disappearing as well - the fuse was non-existent. That

RE: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Mark Howard
:41 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] how high really When using these altitude watches be sure to read the included instructions very closely. Many of the ~$100 watches take pressure readings periodically only once every 2 mins. (or greater) and are made primarily for hikers/skie

Re: Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread JAMES EALY
Hi Bill:At 8000 ft a 4 meter plane's image could fit in the area of a 1/64 diameter circle (at arms length).  I am not sure a hawk could see that. But hey, that's just geometry and optics!!!best to you and our poor eyesight!regards,JimOn Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:30:46 -0700 "Bill Swingle" wrote:Daryl sa

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Bill Swingle
Daryl says 8500'. Several guys have said 4500-5000'. OK, fine. Might as well be 100K to me. Well guys we're getting older and I'm seeing the decline in eye sight myself. How about you folks? Personally, I can't stand flying when I'm uncomfortable. Too stressful. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Daryl Perkins
When I talk about being at 8500 ft... the stabs had long since disappeared, the wings were literally toothpicks, and were disappearing as well - the fuse was non-existent. That's how Joe consistently beat the pants off all the CC guys for all those years. The plane was always in the optimum positio

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread mrmaserati
I have been following this thread with some interest and would to contribute my two undervalued cents. First, SIZE does count. Second, a number of years ago, Don Patterson and I were flying our Jerry Mirlk's designed AstroJeff's on a perfect day for high altitude flying. High clouds and some

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Randall Brust
JAMES EALY wrote: The biggest problem with the cheapies is that they are not temperature compensated, or VERY poorly so. There are 2 types of temperature dependance with respect to electronic altimeters. The first is how temperature change affects the pressure sensor's ability to convert p

Re: Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread JAMES EALY
Hello all:A couple of year ago we went through this debate and I (was taken to task) learned a lot about the new $200 alitimeters. However, we are rarely fly overhead, but  at some angle, which means we are much farther away than "up"However, a soarer came on, who had done his math (geometery)

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread CapnCrunchie
When using these altitude watches be sure to read the included instructions very closely. Many of the ~$100 watches take pressure readings periodically only once every 2 mins. (or greater) and are made primarily for hikers/skiers. Suuto makes watches that can be set by user to take readings in inte

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-26 Thread Raschow
In a message dated 8/25/2006 8:55:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if anyone out there can give us some research based information on far a human can discern an object like a 3m sailplane I'd sure like to hear it. That would be good!  Also, it would be per

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-25 Thread tony estep
From: Robert Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if anyone out there can give us some research based information on far a human can discern an object like a 3m sailplane I'd sure like to hear it. == Well, it depends on lighting and contrast. For resolving front-lit objects li

Re: [RCSE] how high really

2006-08-25 Thread Dan
This will be tough to do as Superman has long passed away   Dan Robert Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm now a believer. I believe that people believe what they are telling us. But these distances certainly far exceed my weak vision.I'm not an expert at anything much less how far one can s