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Why they remove the page? http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ 2014-09-11 20:09 GMT-03:00 Jon Hunt : > I also attended the training at escape last week. With little choice but > to migrate, I'm still not happy. > As Cristobal said attending wa

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I also attended the training at escape last week. With little choice but to migrate, I'm still not happy. As Cristobal said attending was a no brainer and I am confident in opening it up and using it to a limited amount at the moment. I would share others view on this thread that it is clear that t

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... And that the main blade sorta works but breaks off from time to time. For real heavy-handed work, you need to go find a 3rd-party one, which comes as an "assemble yourself" kit. Sergio Muciño. Sent from my iPad. > On Sep 11, 2014, at 12:44 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: > > Add to that it's

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...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman Sent: 10 September 2014 20:27 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios Graham, I apologize for calling you out on the personal bit, it was uncalled for. Cheers, -=Eric T. <>

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Add to that it's diesel, pollute and give cancer... Le 11/09/2014 18:33, Sebastien Sterling a écrit : Yea! bury that analogy! ;) On 11 September 2014 17:11, Jason S > wrote: And capable (with the firm intent to) running over everyones jets while their pa

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Yea! bury that analogy! ;) On 11 September 2014 17:11, Jason S wrote: > And capable (with the firm intent to) running over everyones jets while > their paying for their milk (just waiting by the grocery store) , getting > everyone to then get their own (pricey) big and heavy bulldozer after > w

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And capable (with the firm intent to) running over everyones jets while their paying for their milk (just waiting by the grocery store) , getting everyone to then get their own (pricey) big and heavy bulldozer after walking home just to get their milk later, cause

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opinions of NASA or any other party. > > > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *olivier jeannel > *Sent:* Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:59 AM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re:

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@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios Well, I'd say Maya has torque, but a top speed of 20Km/h Le 11/09/2014 14:58, Gerbrand Nel a écrit : Well I would rather describe Maya as open, not as speed or velocity :P sorry, just my 2c worth of fuel on the rant fire , G On

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Well, I'd say Maya has _torque_, but a top speed of 20Km/h Le 11/09/2014 14:58, Gerbrand Nel a écrit : Well I would rather describe Maya as open, not as speed or velocity :P sorry, just my 2c worth of fuel on the rant fire , G On 2014-09-11 11:11 AM, olivier jeannel wrote: Back in the days we h

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Well I would rather describe Maya as open, not as speed or velocity :P sorry, just my 2c worth of fuel on the rant fire , G On 2014-09-11 11:11 AM, olivier jeannel wrote: Back in the days we had discussions about "speed" and "velocity" Now it's about "open" Le 11/09/2014 02:06, Cesar Saez a écr

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Back in the days we had discussions about "speed" and "velocity" Now it's about "open" Le 11/09/2014 02:06, Cesar Saez a écrit : And there we go again... Don't you guys get bored of having the same conversation over and over again?

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Thanks Raffaele, helpful as usual Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 11 Sep 2014, at 08:29, Raffaele Fragapane wrote: > Houdini ships with a fixed version of Boost it uses, and the symbols are > unaltered. > If you rely on boost to a serious extent (e.g. can't use C++11 and therefore > need

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Houdini ships with a fixed version of Boost it uses, and the symbols are unaltered. If you rely on boost to a serious extent (e.g. can't use C++11 and therefore need Boost for things like smart pointers, counting etc.), then you either have to use the same version, and link against the existing Hou

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In german culture, it's brown when speaking of Hitler or Nazis. Please try again ;-) On Sep 11, 2014, at 5:05, Sebastien Sterling wrote: > Man the gray of Maya's UI sure reminds me of Hitler (is that better ? :P)

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On 11 Sep 2014, at 00:13, Raffaele Fragapane wrote: > Talk about semantics escalating :) > > The word open is like saying professional grade, or robust, or a number of > other things that are used because, in context, they fit. > > Maya offered more and sooner than everybody else things like

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h the classic On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > Or the Youtube video when Hitler decides to buy Softimage in the behalf of > AD?? > > --- > Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. > > 2014-09-10 22:10 GMT-05:00 E

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Or the Youtube video when Hitler decides to buy Softimage in the behalf of AD?? --- Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. 2014-09-10 22:10 GMT-05:00 Eric Turman : > That's funny, it was the moustache that did it for me. :P > > On Wed, Sep 10,

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That's funny, it was the moustache that did it for me. :P On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Sebastien Sterling < sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Man the gray of Maya's UI sure reminds me of Hitler (is that better ? :P) > > On 11 September 2014 03:52, Eric Thivierge wrote: > >> I simply as

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Man the gray of Maya's UI sure reminds me of Hitler (is that better ? :P) On 11 September 2014 03:52, Eric Thivierge wrote: > I simply asked, i didn't make comparisons... So I think we're still in the > clear. >

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I simply asked, i didn't make comparisons... So I think we're still in the clear.

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ya! you can't just throw it out like that... On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > You can't do that, Eric. Godwyn's law should be left to emerge naturally, > not clumsily pushed like this. > Shame on you! > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:29 AM,

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lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler appro

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You can't do that, Eric. Godwyn's law should be left to emerge naturally, not clumsily pushed like this. Shame on you! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: > Is this a good time to bring up Hitler? > > > Eric Thivierge > http://www.

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Don’t go there. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:30 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios Is this a

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Is this a good time to bring up Hitler? Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Bradley Gabe wrote: > > Aw.. don't make the thread self aware. It was just getting good! I still > have popcorn left. :-( > > I might no

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You underestimate the Internets. Go ahead, start those three threads, you will still get plenty bites :) On 11 Sep 2014 11:24, "Bradley Gabe" wrote: > > Aw.. don't make the thread self aware. It was just getting good! I still > have popcorn left. :-( > > I might not be contributing anymore, but t

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Aw.. don't make the thread self aware. It was just getting good! I still have popcorn left. :-( I might not be contributing anymore, but the rest of you are still keeping things interesting.

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On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > We could start one about open sourcing Softimage, that horse is still > twitching I reckon. No we need one about AD selling Softimage to another company... that one is always interesting (read, not inter

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@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios We could start one about open sourcing Softimage, that horse is still twitching I reckon.

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We could start one about open sourcing Softimage, that horse is still twitching I reckon.

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I don't know, the open thing has been a running theme of Maya for years but hadn't been discussed very often here, and not everybody has a clear perspective on it or even what it entails for the end user even if they don't code. I don't find the thread completely useless to be honest. Someone will

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Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios And there we go again... Don't you guys get bored of having the same conversation over and over again?

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And there we go again... Don't you guys get bored of having the same conversation over and over again?

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The fact the guts are exposed and available, and relatively robust, doesn't mean they are pretty, make much sense, or can be combined into a streamlined user experience. Maya is clunky and counter-intuitive down to its core and in parts that no amount of plugins will fix :p >From the simplest thin

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And all of that doesn't mean much to artist when still after decades of existence all that power wasn't used to provide streamlined and organised workflow and tool that simply do its job without pulling hair, rising blood pressure and shortening life by significant amount On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1

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The definition of the word Open will just morph again until it fits whatever argument needs to be win. The opinion that Open necessarily means open source is a neologism. There isn't just an API that matches 1:1 internals, the Maya UI is defined directly in MEL and it ships with 4 millions line

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Talk about semantics escalating :) The word open is like saying professional grade, or robust, or a number of other things that are used because, in context, they fit. Maya offered more and sooner than everybody else things like listeners, a robust socket insertion point, an entry point into the

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> Not everything that's said is a threat to your software of choice. > Our software of choice was killed on March. > That everything in Maya is accessible and changeable though scripting or the > API is not meaningless or a misused of the word Open. > No one said being changeable via API or scr

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I guess it's good our software of choice can't be threatened anymore. On 09/10/14 17:58, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: Not everything that's said is a threat to your software of choice.  That everything in Maya is accessible and changeable th

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Not everything that's said is a threat to your software of choice. That everything in Maya is accessible and changeable though scripting or the API is not meaningless or a misused of the word Open. On Sep 10, 2014 5:42 PM, "Jordi Bares" wrote: > On 10 Sep 2014, at 22:36, Matt Lind wrote: > > “O

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g. 2014-09-10 23:05 GMT+02:00 Paulo Cesar Duarte : > Yeah, very strange the Escape Studios page down. > http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ > > I agree with Jordi, in how is this "open" concept? When I think in "open > software&q

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? :) On 09/10/14 17:05, Paulo Cesar Duarte wrote: Yeah, very strange the Escape Studios page down. http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ I agree with Jordi, in how is  this "open" concept? When

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Lucky Strike, it's "toasted" ;) On 10 September 2014 22:42, Jordi Bares wrote: > On 10 Sep 2014, at 22:36, Matt Lind wrote: > > “Open” is open to interpretation as you pointed out. However, it is not a > comparative word as you interpreted it to be. To say the Maya SDK is open > does not impl

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On 10 Sep 2014, at 22:36, Matt Lind wrote: > “Open” is open to interpretation as you pointed out. However, it is not a > comparative word as you interpreted it to be. To say the Maya SDK is open > does not imply the competition isn’t open. Exactly my point. > > If you want to say Autodesk

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alue very much how Houdini has been architected. Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 10 Sep 2014, at 22:05, Paulo Cesar Duarte wrote: > Yeah, very strange the Escape Studios page down. > http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ > > I agree with J

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m [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:24 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios I agree Maya API is the strong point, very well documented and superior to anything out there (

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>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:36 PM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escap

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what do Autodesk mean by saying it is "designed to be entirely open"?? > > > And by the way… why is the Escape studio page now down > http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ > > :-/// > > > Jordi Bares > jordiba...@gmail

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*On Behalf Of *Jason S > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:56 PM > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios > > > > > Very deep SDK with almost everything accessible, can add or replace bits > to any par

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.@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:56 PM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios > > well the Maya API is called OpenMaya, so there's that. > Everything is e

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half Of Jason S Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:56 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios Very deep SDK with almost everything accessible, can add or replace bits to any part very very detailed command log that logs even the littl

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Yeah, very strange the Escape Studios page down. http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ I agree with Jordi, in how is this "open" concept? When I think in "open software", came in my mind Blender open source code, and Houdini in ho

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Rousseau Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:56 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios well the Maya API is called OpenMaya, so there's that. Everything is exposed through the API, it's not a blackbox like XSI, where you can never

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to be entirely open"??     And by the way… why is the Escape studio page now down http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-ta

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I was one of the attendees of this intensive 5 days Maya training. Even though the company I work will probably take the Maya route, nobody forced me to go, however it was a NO BRAINER to take on this offer. I have to give a lot of credit to Graham and his team for putting this together, since it

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Not saying Autodesk > hasn’t said such a thing, just saying I have never heard them say it if they > have. > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios > > I keep thinking about this sentence… > >

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ever heard them say it if they have. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:36 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Es

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components (plugins) you can't substitute the pre-existing ones (unless I am wrong here) So… what do Autodesk mean by saying it is "designed to be entirely open"?? And by the way… why is the Escape studio page now down http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escap

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Right Greg, it is a good thing for ADKS to reach out; they *need* to. Just because the review wasn't glowing (it wasn't particularly negative either) and that the list did not grab onto the positive parts doesn't mean you guys aren't doing a good job. I know Maya will never be Softimage...I would n

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Graham I for one am glad you did this, I would love for something like this to be held at Janimation. Greg "The future is unwritten"- Joe Strummer Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Eric Turman wrote: > > Please, let's be honest Graham, you have taken certain barbs at Autode

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Please, let's be honest Graham, you *have* taken certain barbs at Autodesk personally, even when they were not directed personally at you or your co-workers. As Adrian said: "it will take YEARS for the resentment to fizzle outjust because the list has settled down of late (it's disappointingly

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That's why we're moving to Maya eventually... other than Soft, it's the only end-to-end option out there at the moment. I say 'eventually'... it's not like XSI suddenly broke or anything... Frankly though, AD has shown that it /can /listen to users... for example in the really solid modeling i

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one like Escape, provides a good context of neutrality. G From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer Sent: 10 September 2014 11:19 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studi

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On 09/10/14 6:56, adrian wyer wrote: as a company, our decision to move to Maya was made for us 1. production proven 2. available freelance pool 3.

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It does make sense from the management and education point of view to bet for the current industry standard. My suggestion, learn Modo and/or specially Houdini to look at the future, things are changing fast. Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:43, Ognjen Vukovic wrote: >

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Yeah, and in all those discussions what emerged is that if you care about character animation, or even animation in general, rigging of a certain quality, games at large, or face any given market where AD has the job pool by the balls (which is a staggering majority in VFX and Games), then you're s

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To be fair, in modeling at least, the last 2 Maya releases are way better and have some nice features that Softimage doesn't. My problem is that I still have to deal with the old crappy versions (Maya 2013, 2012). I don't know how they (clients) can still use this piece of $#!7 ! And like I said i

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3. community of users when things go wrong >>>> >>>> 4. existing freelancers who have knowledge of both systems (Soft & Maya >>>> aiding in transition) >>>> >>>> 5.third party plugins >>>> >>>> 6.it's not 3DsMa

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> >>> 6.it's not 3DsMax! >>> >>> >>> >>> no brainer i'm afraid >>> >>> >>> >>> a >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *From:* softimage-boun..

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DsMax! >> >> >> >> no brainer i'm afraid >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> -- >> >> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On B

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mage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ognjen Vukovic *Sent:* 10 September 2014 11:44 *To:* softimage *Subject:* Re: Soft

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>> >> >> ------ >> >> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Ognjen Vukovic >> *Sent:* 10 September 2014 11:44 >> *To:* softimage >> >> *Subje

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ailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Ognjen Vukovic > *Sent:* 10 September 2014 11:44 > *To:* softimage > > *Subject:* Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios > > > > I am quite curious as to why there are so many people &g

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ot 3DsMax! no brainer i'm afraid a _ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ognjen Vukovic Sent: 10 September 2014 11:44 To: softimage Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios

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n the long term, they'll appreciate >>> it >>> >>> >>> >>> but don't expect users not to throw abuse occasionally when you stick >>> your head above the parapet! >>> >>> >>> >>> cheers >>> &g

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onally when you stick >> your head above the parapet! >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> -- >> >> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun

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> > > a > > > ---------- > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Mario Reitbauer > *Sent:* 10 September 2014 11:02 > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subj

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nt: 10 September 2014 11:02 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios Graham dont take it personal. It's maya... We don't like it, we probably will need a lot of time to start accepting it and maybe at some point some here gonna agre

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Has been 3 months now I've switched to Maya... Skin weighting is the worst offender, and being an artist being forced to code your own stuff because Maya lacks some features its really a huge pain... However I expected my experience to be worse, even if I found myself stuck sometimes for very stup

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Graham dont take it personal. It's maya... We don't like it, we probably will need a lot of time to start accepting it and maybe at some point some here gonna agree that what maya offers is good. But right now, the cons of maya are just hitting artists day in day out ;) 2014-09-10 2:35 GMT+02:00

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On 09/09/14 17:29, Graham Bell wrote: Personally, I thought I did a great job, but if you guys want to spin it into something it wasn’t, I guess that’s your prerogative. G Oh didn't know you had a take on that event. But no doubt yourself and everyone (many well known names) did a great job,

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softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> > Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios > > Happy to see the coments form Mark, valuable information and goes to > confirm what I knew all along, AD killed the wrong product. > > :-P > > Jordi Bares > jordiba...@gmail.com<mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com> > > > >

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i think it was a great initiative! remember people are still resentful of maya On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Graham Bell wrote: > > > Personally, I thought I did a great job, but if you guys want to spin it > into something it wasn’t, I guess that’s your prerogative. > > > G >

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stproc.autodesk.com>> Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios Happy to see the coments form Mark, valuable information and goes to confirm what I knew all along, AD killed the wrong product. :-P Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com<mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com> <>

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Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:56 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios What is the point of proclaiming, "BUT GUYS ! IT'S SO OPEN :)" should artists care ? On 9 September 2014

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What is the point of proclaiming, "BUT GUYS ! IT'S SO OPEN :)" should artists care ? On 9 September 2014 21:41, Jason S wrote: > > On 09/09/14 13:11, Graham Bell wrote: > > Actually that wasn’t the tone (or the point) of the training at all, quote > the opposite in fact. > > > May not have been

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On 09/09/14 13:11, Graham Bell wrote: Actually that wasn’t the tone (or the point) of the training at all, quote the opposite in fact. May not have been the point of the training,  (highlighting key differences) but it seems to put i

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;> :-P >> >> Jordi Bares >> jordiba...@gmail.com >> >> On 9 Sep 2014, at 17:18, Paulo Cesar Duarte >> wrote: >> >> Softimage users having a first experience with Maya: >> >> >> http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on

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mage users having a first experience with Maya: > > http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ > > "To summarise, Maya is extremely powerful, as is Softimage. Maya does not > have the eloquence or the innovative interface and is overly complex but it >

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> http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ > > "To summarise, Maya is extremely powerful, as is Softimage. Maya does not > have the eloquence or the innovative interface and is overly complex but it > has been designed to be entirely open. Maybe too

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Subject: Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios lol +1 Mirko The problem is still the same Maya demands heavy customization and maintenance to be serviceable you can't compare them out of the box or per maintenance cost. and it will still be a problem for small studios, all of a s

Re: SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios

first experience with Maya: >> >> >> http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ >> >> "To summarise, Maya is extremely powerful, as is Softimage. Maya does not >> have the eloquence or the innovative interface and is overly comp

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Duarte > wrote: > >> Softimage users having a first experience with Maya: >> >> >> http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ >> >> "To summarise, Maya is extremely powerful, as is Softimage. Maya does not >> have the eloqu

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In short, With Maya you workaround, with Softimage you work On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Paulo Cesar Duarte wrote: > Softimage users having a first experience with Maya: > > http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ > > "To summaris

SoftImage Artists take on Maya @ Escape Studios

Softimage users having a first experience with Maya: http://www.escapestudios.com/softimage-artists-take-on-maya-escape-studios/ "To summarise, Maya is extremely powerful, as is Softimage. Maya does not have the eloquence or the innovative interface and is overly complex but it has been des