Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-05-21 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Why sad times? It's starting to feel like people have some default defeatist pessimist e-mails saved and will randomly send them to a thread in two at irregular intervals regardless of what actually happens. It went from one financial group to the next without passing through any corporate hands t

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-05-21 Thread Tom Kleinenberg
times. Oh wait, I forgot...the future for Modo is bright! > > > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Yeh > *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:53 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-05-21 Thread Sven Constable
Sad times. Oh wait, I forgot...the future for Modo is bright! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jim Yeh Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:53 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: "The shadow over The Fo

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-05-21 Thread Jim Yeh
ES] [j.ponthi...@nasa.gov] > *Sent:* 30 April 2015 05:53 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* RE: "The shadow over The Foundry" > > One has to wonder how many others are starting to evaluate or recognize > the consequences of Cloud’s long term co

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-30 Thread Angus Davidson
thats it for us. If Modo and Nuke are Adobe products by then, there are alternatives. From: Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] [j.ponthi...@nasa.gov] Sent: 30 April 2015 05:53 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: "The shadow over The Foundry

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-30 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
m] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:08 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: "The shadow over The Foundry" I so agree with that. Unfortunately our Academics are still stuck in the have to use the market standard age. drives me insane. Luckily

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-30 Thread Angus Davidson
LARC-E1A)[LITES] [j.ponthi...@nasa.gov] Sent: 30 April 2015 03:42 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: "The shadow over The Foundry" http://art.buffalo.edu/2014/01/10/recommendations-to-students-regarding-adobe-creative-cloud/ -- Joey __

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-30 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Schoenberger Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 4:58 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: "The shadow over The Foundry" >On the plus side. If our University finally gets an adobe site licenc

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-30 Thread Schoenberger
age@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: "The shadow over The Foundry" On the plus side. If our University finally gets an adobe site licence it would mean no separate licences for Modo. Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;) _ From: Simon Reeves [si...@simonreeves.com] Sent:

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-30 Thread Morten Bartholdy
- and from reading the infamous Chris Cox thread on PS and openexr.. + the silly MickeyMouse controls in their software... Morten Den 29. april 2015 kl. 06:32 skrev Andy Goehler : > > On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz < g...@janimation.com > > > wrote:

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-29 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andy Goehler Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:32 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: "The shadow over The Foundry" On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz mailto:g...@janimation.com>

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-29 Thread Perry Harovas
I totally understand what you are saying, Greg, and I see that a lot with AE. I see one person having a more stable experience, others having a less stable experience. Another with a great experience, another with intense hatred. And on and on. On the whole, in my experience and with the majority o

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Angus Davidson
: Andy Goehler [lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 April 2015 06:32 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: "The shadow over The Foundry" On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz mailto:g...@janimation.com>> wrote: I am not sure where all this Adobe hate comes f

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Andy Goehler
> On Apr 29, 2015, at 04:35, Greg Punchatz wrote: > > I am not sure where all this Adobe hate comes from,… It starts with the installer… Andy

"The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Greg Punchatz
Not my experience Perry, AE was unusable in my opinion until the last couple of versions or so... I had a hate for that program that ran deep until recent releases, but improvements recently has made it palatable for me. The momentum of Adobe since the move to the subscription based model, seems

AW: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Marc
Uh….nope…not here at least. Von: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] Im Auftrag von Perryharovas Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. April 2015 12:29 An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Betreff: Re: "The shadow over The Foundry" … I&#

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Stefan Kubicek
Well put Perry, exactly my thoughts! Speaking of Fusion: I had the pleasure of using the free version last week for 7 consecutive days in a a row, 10 hrs a day. It was blazingly fast (compared to AE anyway), did not crash once, and the look of the node tree was pleasing enough to not make

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Perryharovas
Totally agree. This "news" sickened me and if true, could mean great things for Fusion and nothing but bad news for the rest. I've seen the usability and stability of After Effects (AE) decline sharply over the timeframe that AE has been a rental product. Updates cause problems instead of fi

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Rob Wuijster
Affinity Photo is Mac only, so no threat to PS at all. If they went all platforms, than maybe they might make a little dent. Krita is starting to get really nice, expecially the 32 bit painting features are great. But no real threat either. And as long as they don't have 100% file compatibility

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Angus Davidson
Well Affinity Photo is definitely already there and its still in Beta. Pretty much for a fraction of the cost. Similarly for their Affinity Designer product. Krita is also catching up very quickly . Adobes issues start at the end of next year when the first of their 3 year deals becomes due. Mo

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-28 Thread Tim Leydecker
There is a chance good things arise from The Foundry being put to the market. Personally, I´m not a fan of the recent year´s trends to put all sorts of flashy sugar coating on a bundle of applications, force support subscription down the throat along with swallowing the deal or now even tryin

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread pedro santos
Raffaele, the thing is nothing like Photoshop has risen yet, right? Little competition there unlike say, MAX. They certainly cemented their position with applications integration and the acquisition of Macromedia, which had some overlap with Fireworks and Freehand, even being web-oriented, in tune

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
AD owned and produced a lot of stuff over the years. The various acquisitions you are thinking of in the M&E group are a drop in the ocean that is their arch, viz, CAM/CAE budgets. Alias was bought for studio and the inlet in industrial CAM they missed at the time. Maya in and of itself is probably

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Nicolas Esposito
If I remember correcty Autodesk, before the big buyout in recent yearsm had only Autocad and 3ds to carry on and make good money...when they start acquiring Alias and all the others they establish themself as the "company to go", simply because they were the owners. For me Adobe could possibly be

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
There must be another company named Adobe I'm not aware of... Adobe has had nothing but contempt for VFX for years, and people would actually get on board with this? If there is any truth to these incompetently written piece of news whatsoever, and that's pretty much 50/50 at best, be ready to re

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Tenshi S.
-04-27 15:52 GMT+02:00 Angus Davidson : >>> >>>> On the plus side. If our University finally gets an adobe site >>>> licence it would mean no separate licences for Modo. >>>> >>>> Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Mario Reitbauer
>>> Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;) >>> >>> >>> -------------- >>> *From:* Simon Reeves [si...@simonreeves.com] >>> *Sent:* 27 April 2015 03:36 PM >>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

"The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Cristobal Infante
i...@simonreeves.com >> ] >> *Sent:* 27 April 2015 03:36 PM >> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: "The shadow over The Foundry" >> >> great quote >> >> >> >> Simon Reeves >> London, UK >> *si...

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Mario Reitbauer
es for Modo. > > Yes thats me looking really hard for a silver lining ;) > > > -- > *From:* Simon Reeves [si...@simonreeves.com] > *Sent:* 27 April 2015 03:36 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: "The shadow over T

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Angus Davidson
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: "The shadow over The Foundry" great quote Simon Reeves London, UK si...@simonreeves.com<mailto:si...@simonreeves.com> www.simonreeves.com<http://www.simonreeves.com> www.analogstudio.co.uk<http://www.analogstudio.co.uk> On 27 Ap

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Simon Reeves
great quote Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com * *www.simonreeves.com * *www.analogstudio.co.uk * On 27 April 2015 at 14:06, Toonafish wrote: > Can't take it too seriously when I read this snippet about Modo: > > "The comp

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Turman
Too bad that adobe didn't try and get a piece of the industry back in 2008. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Toonafish wrote: > Can't take it too seriously when I read this snippet about Modo: > > "The company* has recently launched a concept design software product >

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Mario Reitbauer
Well in the end Adobe probably doesn't care too much about Modo. But Mari and Nuke fore sure is interesting for them. I guess if Autodesk could, they would buy them just because of Nuke ;) 2015-04-27 15:06 GMT+02:00 Toonafish : > Can't take it too seriously when I read this snippet about Modo: >

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Toonafish
Can't take it too seriously when I read this snippet about Modo: "The company* has recently launched a concept design software product

RE: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
Ready the popcorn for some clash of the titans then! ;) From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Esposito Sent: April-27-15 6:12 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: "The shadow over The Foundry"

Re: "The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Jordi Bares Dominguez
This could be quite a blessing. jb > On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:11, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Looks like Adobe is trying to get a piece of the VFX industries > > Link of the article >

"The shadow over The Foundry"

2015-04-27 Thread Nicolas Esposito
Looks like Adobe is trying to get a piece of the VFX industries Link of the article Good? Bad? Adobe to be the next Autodesk-Evil-Corp-Inc?