Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-23 Thread Jens Lindgren
...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Davidson *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:13 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? ** ** Nice that it has a pressure sensitive pen (Wacom) Like you said, the review is not great. And it's

RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-23 Thread Matt Lind
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:13 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? Nice that it has a pressure

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-23 Thread Eric Turman
Of *Jens Lindgren *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:55 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? ** ** The Samsung Galaxy Note II will be announced August 29th and I think it will be more targeted to the artistic people as you can see

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-23 Thread Stephen Davidson
@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? ** ** Nice that it has a pressure sensitive pen (Wacom) Like you said, the review is not great. And it's Android OS which does not support Photoshop. I don't know of any decent paint program for Android

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-23 Thread Stephen Davidson
:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Griswold *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:45 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? ** ** Actually the one device I'm very interested

RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-23 Thread Matt Lind
, 2012 6:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? After seeing your post about not being able to switch off the touchscreen while you are using a pen, I did some research, and found this YouTube link that not only shows off how well the tablet works, it also

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Nic Groot Bluemink
There's the new Galaxy Note with a Wacom pen. Underwhelmed a bit in the review though- http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3243546/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review -Nic On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: Bottom line, for me, Windows 8 is fine to use on

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Stephen Davidson
Nice that it has a pressure sensitive pen (Wacom) Like you said, the review is not great. And it's Android OS which does not support Photoshop. I don't know of any decent paint program for Android Thanks for trying, though. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Nic Groot Bluemink

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Sam Bowling sbowl...@cox.net wrote: What $0.99 video format converters do you know of that will give you real professional quality results, because I couldn't find any. Also there are a ton of free programs for synchronizing your drives on windows and I

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Paul Griswold
Wow, my simple question on Windows 8 took quite an interesting turn... For the time being I think I'll keep trying to figure out why Windows 7 is so crash-prone on my main system perhaps do a fresh install. Thanks for the lively discussion guys. Paul

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Dan Yargici
I've made Soft work on 12.04, but if you were to now ask me how the bottom line is that if you go through all the Linux related posts on Stephen's blog you'll get it running totally fine in the end. As an aside, I have to say that I love Gnome Shell (just called Gnome now in 12.04). Unity

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Martin Chatterjee
Dan, cool - have you actually done any production work on this install? Does opening/saving/merging scenes work for you? And can you read/write icecaches? I personally haven't spent any time trying to get it to work because I've read all these reports about these show stopper type problems

RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Szabolcs Matefy
: Windows 8 - anyone? Dan, cool - have you actually done any production work on this install? Does opening/saving/merging scenes work for you? And can you read/write icecaches? I personally haven't spent any time trying to get it to work because I've read all these reports about

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
Well... I came off a little harsh there. My apologizes, it was not intended to be that harsh. *stefan goes off and hides under a rock* I hope no one (especially Sam) wasn't offended, it was never my intention. best regards stefan andersson On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Stefan Andersson

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Dan Yargici
Hi Martin, No production work no. Opening and Saving definitely worked! I don't recall having had to merge and I wasn't doing any caching with ICE (but I was using ICE extensively)... I didn't encounter any issues at all and it seemed very stable to me. I've used 2011 and 2013 with Ubuntu

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Martin Chatterjee
Hi Dan, awesome, thanks! :-) I just dug out the old thread I vaguely remembered - if you want you can check it out here.https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/xsi_list/ubuntu$20segfault/xsi_list/OgyvRv4X22w/yQOE9qb5UxsJ That was a year ago on Ubuntu 11.04 - keeping my fingers

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Dan Yargici
Hmmm. Nope, seems I have those exact same issues! Even the batch issue that Patrick mentions in the last thread. Sorry for creating the false hope! :/ DAN On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Martin Chatterjee martin.chatterjee.li...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Dan, awesome, thanks! :-) I

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Tim Thorburn
1:06 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? Dan, cool - have you actually done any production work on this install? Does opening/saving/merging scenes work for you? And can you read/write icecaches? I personally haven't spent any time trying to get

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Paul Griswold
Well, for grins and giggles I installed Windows 8 RTM on my laptop. Softimage 2013 SP1 runs ok from what I can see. There's some interface weirdness, such as the top menu bar is pure white and Softimage 2013...etc etc. is centered at the top of the screen instead of on the left. I loaded a

RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Stephen Blair
You need to disable Face Robot. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold Sent: August-21-12 12:44 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? Well, for grins and giggles I installed

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Gene Crucean
with a job it either costs us money (and my boss does not like to part with money) or has to be done on a windows box. -Original Message- From: Gene Crucean Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 - anyone? What? hehe

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Gene Crucean
with a job it either costs us money (and my boss does not like to part with money) or has to be done on a windows box. -Original Message- From: Gene Crucean Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 - anyone? What

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: They're mac users after all. You know you are talking down to just about everybody these days right? Apple was just reported as the worlds most valuable company.

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Nicolas Burtnyk
As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract gamblers. Actually Apple

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Kiril Aronofski
RE: desktops are doomed Don't forget all this mobile devices are consumerist in nature - someone will somehow still have to create the content for them to consume. Desktop sales are in decline as most people realize they can survive with a tablet and a phone. In my opinion Microsoft is trying to

RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Matt Lind
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? Nice that it has a pressure sensitive pen (Wacom) Like you said, the review is not great. And it's Android OS which does not support Photoshop. I don't know of any decent paint program for Android Thanks for trying, though. On Tue

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Gene Crucean
but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract gamblers. Actually... it's cheap because why would I dump money into a stock that hasn't done jack sh** in 5 years, vs dumping money into a company that's exploding. Proof: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/403879/AppleVsMS.png ... but feel free to

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
That's the gambling market.. money is made by speculating about how much one could sell the stock to someone else in the future. The way the stock market was supposed to work was that you bought shares in a company in order to own part of it and get dividends, proportional to your number of

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Helzle
Interesting how heated this is still getting when the differences are actually growing smaller every day. :-) Windows Explorer has grown as crappy as the stock Finder, but for both there are good replacements (I use XYplorer and Pathfinder but there are many). I run both systems on a MacPro and

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel H
Win 8 will be fine; it's already outperforming Win 7 in the benchmarks. Mac influence in the desktop world is very minor compared to Windows dominance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems Windows = 70.42% Mac = 7.46% Linux = 1.53% Daniel VFXM

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen Davidson
Bottom line, for me, Windows 8 is fine to use on my tablet, but there is no reason to use it on my workstation, unless they force me to, by dropping support for Windows 7, like they will, for XP, on April 8th 2014. I have a laptop/tablet pc that I use for drawing (it has a Wacom pressure

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Eugen Sares
Am 20.08.2012 19:56, schrieb Stephen Davidson: Bottom line, for me, Windows 8 is fine to use on my tablet, but there is no reason to use it on my workstation, unless they force me to, by dropping support for Windows 7, like they will, for XP, on

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Wuijster
Asus EP121? Rob \/-\/\/ On 20-8-2012 20:11, Eugen Sares wrote: Am 20.08.2012 19:56, schrieb Stephen Davidson: Bottom line, for me, Windows 8 is fine to use on my tablet, but there is

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Len Krenzler
NO. On 8/18/2012 12:44 PM, David Gallagher wrote: Mobile is so overrated. Does anyone actually get anything done on a mobile device? -- _ Len Krenzler - Creative Control Media Productions Phone: 780.463.3126 www.creativecontrol.ca -

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Len Krenzler
I liked Vista a lot too. If you disable some of the very stupid web oriented crap it outperforms Win7 by a good margin. I have 2 identical machines, 1 on Win7 and one on Vista and main programs such as SI, PS, Avid MC all open in half the time and run better overall and Aero works smoother.

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Gene Crucean
they probably won’t allow it on this version. From: Martin yara Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 11:53 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 - anyone? We gained stability directx and some other things with winXP so it was a good change from win98 and 2000. It felt

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-20 Thread Sam Bowling
costs us money (and my boss does not like to part with money) or has to be done on a windows box. -Original Message- From: Gene Crucean Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:04 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 - anyone? What? hehe. Is that whole $0.99 gonna

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-19 Thread Martin yara
that are still running windows XP, right? You also seem to be forgetting Vista (which I actually liked, but most other people didn’t). *From:* Andreas Bystrom andreas.byst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:05 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-19 Thread Sam Bowling
PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 - anyone? We gained stability directx and some other things with winXP so it was a good change from win98 and 2000. It felt like a 98 and 2000 mixed and with the SPs blue screens were pretty rare. XP 64 and Vista never felt like

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Andreas Bystrom
. So... I've installed Windows7 on my workstation at home. And so far I'm really impressed with the speed and the response from the system. Softimage works a lot smoother on Windows7 than on CentOS 6.3. hmm, it's not april did hell just freeze over? actually the day alan jones writes

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Tim Leydecker
this makes me think about Apple rumour to let go the dev on the mac pros... Is this latest news? The late 2012 MacPros are, umhh, not impressive but apple mgmnt has promised something really great for next year... I wonder how much this is a result of Jobs gone (r.i.p.) and Intel not feeling

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Paul Griswold
Sam is right on the money. I heard an interview with Paul Thurrott and he said according to the Windows team, Windows 8 is much like the first version of OS-X. It's not Windows 7 with some bolt-on UI elements, it is a new OS that has a Classic mode to maintain compatibility with non-Metro apps.

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Stefan Andersson
When I think of operating systems today I think of the death scene in Toy Story 3. Perhaps we should just hold hands and face the facts. Maybe there will be a giant claw out there that can save us all... /Stefan On Saturday, August 18, 2012, Paul Griswold wrote: Sam is right on the money. I

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Rob Wuijster
I don't think there will be any pro-friendly OS's out there in a few years time. Like people already said, everybody is jumping on the mobile train, and the 'pro's' get the leftovers on the desktop. As more and more apps move to the web and cloud (Office 2012 e.g.), we'll slowly start too see

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Paul Griswold
It seems like the market might be ripe for some enterprising new company to come along and develop some specialized pro-level hardware software. Of course it would be Silicon based hardware, specialize in Graphics and would need to be Incorporated... ah, but that's a crazy idea! On Sat, Aug

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
: Interesting because no one seems to have been able to find it yet. I haven’t tried the actual RTM version. *From:* Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 7:39 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? Microsoft stated

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Paul Griswold
Depends on what you mean by getting things done. With my iPhone iPad + Growl and Boxcar I can have Deadline send me a message when renders finish. I do a lot of general-purpose office work while sitting on the sofa with my kids in the evening on my iPad. I'm not doing modeling, etc., but it's

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Thomas Helzle
Wasn't I supposed to be all gloomy about newfangled stuff ;-) Well, I currently work on audio related things and just read an interesting article about Windows 8 and some benchmarks: http://blog.cakewalk.com/windows-8-a-benchmark-for-music-production-applications/ I can't see any reason for doom

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Alan Fregtman
Minor correction: It doesn't render on the iPad, it receives a streaming progressive render in realtime and the client is just a GUI to it. ;) On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: Depends on what you mean by getting things done. With my

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Sam Bowling
: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? . So... I've installed Windows7 on my workstation at home. And so far I'm really impressed with the speed and the response from the system. Softimage works a lot smoother on Windows7 than on CentOS 6.3. hmm, it's not april did hell just freeze over? actually the day

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Sam Bowling
of doubt it. Apple tends to think different from normal people. -Original Message- From: Tim Leydecker Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:14 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? this makes me think about Apple rumour to let go the dev on the mac

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Sam Bowling
everything in one place. From: Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:53 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Windows 8 - anyone? It's not possible to turn it back to win7, but it's my understanding that it's only the Start menu you'd miss when you run

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-18 Thread Andreas Bystrom
Bystrom andreas.byst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:05 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? . So... I've installed Windows7 on my workstation at home. And so far I'm really impressed with the speed and the response from the system

OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Paul Griswold
My main Win 7 workstation has been really acting flaky lately. Microsoft has just release Windows 8 RTM, so I was wondering if anyone had tested it out yet? I realize there are plenty of opinions on the whole Metro interface, but I'm just wondering if it's stable and if Softimage will run under

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Stephen Davidson
I haven't tried Windows 8, yet, but I do have Windows 7 64 bit Pro. My machine was acting flaky, also, so I reformatted the drive and re-installed Windows and all my APPS. It took me an entire day, with all the Windows updates, and drivers, but it was worth it. Much more stable, now. I had heard

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Thomas Helzle
Check out the Wacom Intuos 5 Touch tablets, should work great with Win8, I use it with Win7 and OSX. I too don't intend to grab at my monitor all day but with the Wacom it's quite natural. My only gripe is, that it doesn't act like a tablet with absolute coordinates (where you touch is where your

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Alan Fregtman
For the record you can click on Desktop and get the standard Windows desktop you know and love. It does show the Metro UI by default at first though. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Mirko Jankovic mirko.janko...@aeonproduction.com wrote: it seems to be shame that they create OS that works a

RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Matt Lind
@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? I tried out the release preview on my laptop and windows 8 is crap. The only reason this exists is so Microsoft can leverage their desktop OS to get people you use their extremely unpopular Phone OS. They have literally removed everything

Re: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Sam Bowling
Interesting because no one seems to have been able to find it yet. I haven’t tried the actual RTM version. From: Matt Lind Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:39 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: OT: Windows 8 - anyone? Microsoft stated Windows 7 mode would be retained

Re: OT: Windows 8 - anyone?

2012-08-17 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
this makes me think about Apple rumour to let go the dev on the mac pros... Seem's everybody is going nuts on the mobile thing. And all professional market get's ignored!! i wont be able to do Arnold render regions on my f-ing iphone! wtf is going on with these guys!? sly --