e to master, and how many reasonable levels of mastery there are.
Spatial... the final frontier.
-- Jack Krupansky
-Original Message-
From: Walter Underwood
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:27 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
1. Total mastery
No, they just learned a few features and then stopped because it was
"good enough", and they had a thousand other things to code.
As to REST- yes, it is worth having a coherent API. Solr is behind the
curve here. Look at the HATEOS paradigm. It's ornate (and a really goofy
name) but it provide
.
>
> One final way of putting it. If a manager or project leader wanted to staff
> a dev position to be "in-house Solr expert", can they just hire any old
> average Java programmer with no Solr experience and expect that he will
> rapidly "master" Solr?
>
>
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> 2. Someone who expects partial update in a search engine, or transactions,
> has a deep misunderstandings of the tradeoffs you make for what search can
> do. That isn't mastery of arcane details, that is search 101.
Yes, they might (hav
>> will happen if they make slight and subtle changes or what exactly the fix
>> will be for certain runtime errors? For the "average application developer"
>> I'm talking about, not the elite expert Solr consultants.
>>
>> One final way of putting it. If a m
ik Seeley
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:41 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org (mailto:solr-user@lucene.apache.org)
> Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Jack Krupansky (mailto:j...@basetechnology.com)>
> wrote:
> >
made it more clear what the application developer's intentions
were - and maybe have completely avoided this entire thread.
-- Jack Krupansky
-Original Message-
From: Yonik Seeley
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:41 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word fil
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Jack Krupansky wrote:
> Except, that Solr's divergence from a true, pure REST API is certainly one
> of the elements of its "badness".
Most complex systems seem to feel the need to diverge from pure REST
for the sake of being practical.
>From that perspective "pur
true, pure REST API
is certainly one of the elements of its "badness". The fact that SolrCell
does not support partial update as a true REST CRUD API should, is a good
example of relative "badness" in Solr.]
-- Jack Krupansky
-Original Message-----
From: Jan Høydahl
r or project leader wanted to staff a
> dev position to be "in-house Solr expert", can they just hire any old average
> Java programmer with no Solr experience and expect that he will rapidly
> "master" Solr?
>
> I mean, why would so many recruiters be lookin
ence and expect that he will
rapidly "master" Solr?
I mean, why would so many recruiters be looking for a "Solr expert" or
engaging the services of Solr sonsultancies if mastery of Solr by "average
application developers" was a reality?!
[I want to hear Otis
On Jun 15, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>> That being said, it truly amazes me that people were ever able to implement
>> Solr, given some of the FUD in this thread. I guess those tens of thousands
>> of deployment
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> That being said, it truly amazes me that people were ever able to implement
> Solr, given some of the FUD in this thread. I guess those tens of thousands
> of deployments out there were all done by above average devs...
I would not cla
On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> That was my thought exactly. Contribute a REST request handler. --wunder
>
+1. The bits are already in place for a lot of it now that RESTlet is in.
That being said, it truly amazes me that people were ever able to implement
Solr, gi
That was my thought exactly. Contribute a REST request handler. --wunder
On Jun 13, 2013, at 6:04 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch wrote:
> And sometimes useful projects come out from the annoying, confusing
> corner situations like yours.
>
> See if you can get permission to open-source your implement
And sometimes useful projects come out from the annoying, confusing
corner situations like yours.
See if you can get permission to open-source your implementation and
you may find more people interested in the same thing. It could also
be a good visibility for your consultancy. Worst case, there a
, specific questions.
-- Jack Krupansky
-Original Message-
From: Roland Everaert
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:32 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
I apologize also for my obscure questions and I thanks you and the list for
your help so f
e. It does not have full CRUD
> - no delete, and no partial update, but it does support add and full update.
>
> As someone else already suggested, you can do the work of SolrCell
> yourself by calling Tika directly in your app layer and then sending normal
> Solr CRUD requests.
>
>
and then sending normal Solr CRUD
requests.
-- Jack Krupansky
-Original Message-
From: Roland Everaert
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:21 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
1) Being aggressive and insulting is not a way to help people
On 12 June 2013 14:51, Roland Everaert wrote:
[...]
> Any way I still have a question regarding the /extract interface. It seems
> that every time a file is updated in Solr, the lucene document is recreated
> from scratch which means that any extra information we want to be
> indexed/stored along
PI would be hidden inside the application layer.
>
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> -Original Message- From: Roland Everaert
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:48 AM
>
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
>
> We are working on an
.**openxmlformats-officedocument.**
wordprocessingml.document
and
HelloWorld.docx
HelloWorld.docx
Or, what is it that you are really string to do?
Simply tell us in plain language what problem you are trying to solve.
-- Jack Krupansky
-----Original Message----- From: Roland Everaert
Se
t; >> HelloWorld.docx
> >> stream_content_type
> >> application/octet-stream<**/str>
> >> stream_size
> >> 10096
> >> stream_name
> >> HelloWorld.docx
> >> Content-Type
> >> application/vnd.**openxmlformats-officedocum
_name
>> HelloWorld.docx
>> Content-Type
>> application/vnd.**openxmlformats-officedocument.**
>> wordprocessingml.document
>>
>>
>> and
>>
>>
>> HelloWorld.docx
>>
>>
>>
>> HelloWorld.docx
>>
>>
language what problem you are trying to solve.
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> -Original Message- From: Roland Everaert
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:23 AM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
>
>
> Sorry if it was not
ne 10, 2013 9:23 AM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Adding pdf/word file using JSON/XML
Sorry if it was not clear.
What I would like is to know how to construct an XML/JSON request that
provide any necessary information (supposedly the full path on disk) to
solr to retrieve and index a p
On 10 June 2013 18:53, Roland Everaert wrote:
> Sorry if it was not clear.
>
> What I would like is to know how to construct an XML/JSON request that
> provide any necessary information (supposedly the full path on disk) to
> solr to retrieve and index a pdf/ms word document.
>
> So, an XML reques
Sorry if it was not clear.
What I would like is to know how to construct an XML/JSON request that
provide any necessary information (supposedly the full path on disk) to
solr to retrieve and index a pdf/ms word document.
So, an XML request could look like this:
doc10
BLAH
/path/to/file.pdf
On 10 June 2013 17:47, Roland Everaert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Based on the wiki, below is an example of how I am currently adding a pdf
> file with an extra field called name:
> curl "
> http://localhost:8080/solr/update/extract?literal.id=doc10&literal.name=BLAH&defaultField=text";
> --data-binary @/pa
Hi,
Based on the wiki, below is an example of how I am currently adding a pdf
file with an extra field called name:
curl "
http://localhost:8080/solr/update/extract?literal.id=doc10&literal.name=BLAH&defaultField=text";
--data-binary @/path/to/file.pdf -H "Content-Type: application/pdf"
Is it pos
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