RE: [SAtalk] CBL?

2004-01-29 Thread Covington, Chris
It's great, I run it at the MTA level and it drops tons of junk without any false positives to date (after about 4 months usage). Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Wilder Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 5:50 PM To: Spamassassin Lis

RE: [SAtalk] too much spam...

2004-01-26 Thread Covington, Chris
Your Bayes must be hosed if what you think is spam gets BAYES_00. Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Diaguila Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] too much spam... Greetings Us

RE: [SAtalk] thank you guys

2004-01-23 Thread Covington, Chris
Why does it take your SA 69 seconds to process an email? Our systems take about 3 seconds, using network tests and bayes with Postfix/amavisd-new. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kinghorn Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:32

RE: [SAtalk] Exchange and autolearn

2004-01-19 Thread Covington, Chris
How did you setup all *SPAM* messages to get moved automatically to a Spam folder? Is it setup by the users or system-wide? I'd love to do that system-wide but it's too much to train every user to create rules, etc. so I have mail redirected to a public spam folder for periodic review by

the problem with SA RE: [SAtalk] OT: Spam: Behind the scenes

2003-12-19 Thread Covington, Chris
Unfortunately the problem with SpamAssassin is that all the spam we should be complaining to ISPs about we are simply silently accepting and ignoring (perhaps reporting to DCC, Pyzor, Razor and Bayes...) and /dev/null, that's it. For spammers, SA, it "only makes them stronger" so to speak. Mayb

RE: [SAtalk] Checks very slow

2003-12-16 Thread Covington, Chris
Try using amavisd-new instead of spamd: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ Here's a how-to: http://www.geocities.com/scottlhenderson/spamfilter.html Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Spray Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:17

RE: [SAtalk] Re: DCC incidence

2003-12-08 Thread Covington, Chris
On my site DCC hits approximately 20% of False Positives also (that is, of the 1-2% of false positives, 20% have Razor hits), so don't give it too much weight. Razor2 is the worse for that (50% of false positives)... but I've weighted my scoring accordingly. Chris -

RE: [SAtalk] filtering spam tagged email before hitting exchange 2000

2003-12-08 Thread Covington, Chris
Use amavisd-new and configure emails over a certain tag level to be redirected to a spam mailbox (in a mail-enabled public folder, for instance). Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gentianSent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:50 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subjec

RE: [SAtalk] Exchange 2000 + SpamAssassin + Postfix

2003-11-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Use amavisd-new with Postfix as a content-filter and have all spam scoring over your threshold redirected to a mail-enabled Public folder for review. Also create a public folder for end users to drop in (with Outlook, move the message) false negatives. Then create an IMAP script to remove and s

RE: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-12 Thread Covington, Chris
Definitely FPs. I think SA has a very difficult time with solicited commercial email, even with Bayes feeding. I had to up my site-wide installation to 10.0 to get only the worst of the worst and to stop people's solicited Princeline / Day's Inn, etc. hotel confirmations and travel/real estate de

RE: [SAtalk] SMTP gateway/filter

2003-11-12 Thread Covington, Chris
My way is easier: http://www.plusone.com/gaptuning/postfix Chris --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more

RE: [SAtalk] New kind of spam

2003-10-31 Thread Covington, Chris
Autoresponder list spam? That's a good idea actually, until the list finds out which address is causing these bounce spams. The best part of the idea is that it could potentially be unintentional (someone could've let their domain expire and pool.com bought it up and auto-replies). Chris > This

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAss is tagging my own emails

2003-10-27 Thread Covington, Chris
Rather than reducing the values of those scores, why don't you: 1) Have outgoing email not get checked by SA (what's the point of that anyway?) or Read the FAQ: 2) Create a rule subtracting 50 points for a message received from your webserver. http://spamassassin.taint.org/faq/index.cgi?req=s

RE: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects

2003-10-23 Thread Covington, Chris
It's probably a TMDA or pay-for-email service. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Metheringham Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Looking for some interview subjects On Wed, 200

[SAtalk] correlation between message ID and spam

2003-10-10 Thread Covington, Chris
Is there any spam correlation between a message using a Message-ID from my own domain vs. its own Message-ID? I've noticed some in my corpus uses my MX's Message-IDs vs. their own. I also saw this rule on Chris Santerre's website: header MY_MSGID_MX01 Message-ID =~ /\.mx01\.com/i score MY_MSGID_

RE: [SAtalk] deploying SpamAssassin on MTA level for only some recipient addresses

2003-10-09 Thread Covington, Chris
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:35 PM To: Covington, Chris Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] deploying SpamAssassin on MTA level for only some recipient addresses Chris, Quoting "Covington, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [SAtalk] deploying SpamAssassin on MTA level for only some recipient addresses

2003-10-09 Thread Covington, Chris
Amavisd-new can do that. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] deploying SpamAssassin on MTA level for only some recipient addresses Hi,

RE: [SAtalk] SA 2.60 *VERY* slow.

2003-10-09 Thread Covington, Chris
Why don't you try Amavisd-new? You wouldn't have the problem of waiting for SA before incoming email gets accepted. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Van Pelt Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subjec

RE: [SAtalk] RBL check

2003-10-09 Thread Covington, Chris
I disabled RBL checks because valid Cable/DSL users in DHCP pools would use their valid mail servers but trip the DHCP pool RBLs based on the first IP address in the received chain. I believe this is a bug though; it shouldn't be checking the very first IP address under those circumstances. Chris

[SAtalk] LOCAL_RCVD and local headers

2003-10-06 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, I'd like to remove the headers from any email in my organization that refer to its internal network structure, however when I do this with postfix header_checks (xxx /IGNORE) SpamAssassin can no longer see the LOCAL_RCVD header which adds negative points to users sending from my domain. T

RE: [SAtalk] BAYES_99 on every SPAM - is this right?

2003-10-03 Thread Covington, Chris
So what is the solution for this problem? sa-learn --rebuild? I'm getting a lot of FPs from it too, even though my threshold is 8. Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _

RE: [SAtalk] Highest Score

2003-10-03 Thread Covington, Chris
That's nothing, I had an 82 once. I wish I had saved it though. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kai Risku Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mike Carlson Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Highest Score 65.489 usi

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Pyzor in 2.60?

2003-10-02 Thread Covington, Chris
Make sure that the SA account has permission to run the pyzor executable. For months I would run spamassassin -tD and Pyzor would run, but SA was being run systematically as another user who didn't have permission to execute Pyzor. Needless to say I never got any Pyzor hits until I chowned/chmodd

[SAtalk] 2.60 num_check_received

2003-09-25 Thread Covington, Chris
Why is this test deprecated in 2.60? I've had to disable RBLs all together because of too many FPs from people who have DHCP/Cable Modems (on RBLs) and use their legitimate ISP SMTP servers (not on RBLs). This setting would fix the problem if it weren't disabled. I'd like to un-disable RBLs

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM, BLOCK: Death of monkeys.com DNSbl (fwd)

2003-09-23 Thread Covington, Chris
You guys are forgetting that dnsbl.sorbs.net has also been taken down after a DDoS. One too many... Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _

[SAtalk] disable rbls, but keep pyzor, dcc, razor

2003-09-18 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, I keep getting numerous FPs from not-so-savvy people who have DSL/Cable (ie their machine is usually in some kind of DSL/Cable DHCP pool RBL, though their ISP mail server isn't), use predominantly HTML mail with big colors and weird fonts (i.e. hit HTML_* rules), hit FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, NO_

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- >From: J. S. Townsley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Note the date on that first letter. > >--JST * Covington, Chris [Tue, 16 Sep 2003] > From: "Covington, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk]

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Covington, Chris
All interested parties should read: http://www.iab.org/Documents/icann-vgrs-response.html I just hope Verisign doesn't read this as "OK, we'll change an aspect or two of how the new system works." Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:T

RE: [SAtalk] no spam today uses SA?

2003-09-15 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- >It looks as though the same trademark atty Joseph G Adams has >attempted to register it for deersoft and for network >associates. >I see his phone number is at the bottom of the listing if >anyone is interested: >http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=

RE: [SAtalk] All mail hits RCVD_IN_SORBS

2003-09-15 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- > Could very well be that your own mail relay (or that of a common > uplink) is listed in the blacklist. > >We tried using sorbs lookups at the mta level and they consistenly >returned dns lookup errors. I also tried connecting to their website >with no success. I've d

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Since there isn't a standard for received headers, no rule will work for >Everyone... >MS Exchange: >Received: from mail.magenta-netlogic.com ([192.168.1.2]) by ireland.local.mnl >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); >

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Covington, Chris
This is what I'm now using w/Postfix (should work for any MTA): header NO_RDNS Received=~ /\(unknown[ ]\[/ describe NO_RDNS Sending MTA has no reverse DNS score NO_RDNS 2.5 header NO_RDNS2 Received=~ /\(\[.*\]\)/ describe NO_RDNS2 Sending MTA has no reverse DNS score NO_RDNS2 2.5 --

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Covington, Chris
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It's actually quite a good spam sign, but you I don't think > you can get that information From the MTA (I used to block on > it for a while, which had only a handful of FPs in over 6 > months... A way to assign poin

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-10 Thread Covington, Chris
> -Original Message- > I've noticed that Columbia University has an SA rule for no > reverse DNS: CU_NO_RDNS on > http://www.columbia.edu/acis/email/filters/spamscore.html I'd imagine I'd only give it minimal points. Chris --- This s

[SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-10 Thread Covington, Chris
Hello, I've noticed that Columbia University has an SA rule for no reverse DNS: CU_NO_RDNS on http://www.columbia.edu/acis/email/filters/spamscore.html Does anyone know how to implement this rule? thanks Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsor

RE: [SAtalk] RH 9.0 issues

2003-09-05 Thread Covington, Chris
Remove .utf-8 from your system's $LANG variable. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Ware Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] RH 9.0 issues Hi folks, Sorry for bothering the list

[SAtalk] pyzor

2003-09-03 Thread Covington, Chris
I've been using Pyzor for awhile now, but I can't remember ever getting a hit from it. So just for grins and sh$ts I ran spamassassin -tD < testspam.txt and got the following: debug: executable for pyzor was found at /usr/bin/pyzor debug: Pyzor is available: /usr/bin/pyzor debug: entering helper-

RE: [SAtalk] pyzor or razor

2003-08-27 Thread Covington, Chris
> -Original Message- > how sucessfull is pyzor in detecting spam? Any experiences? > I'm alread > using razor, which works quite nice. Would I get better results using > pyzor instead or should I use a combination of both? I've been using SA w/Pyzor for about 2 months now with ~600 or s

RE: [SAtalk] Proposal: Rule for faked HELOs

2003-08-26 Thread Covington, Chris
I have Postfix configured to reject any incoming SMTP that HELOs with my IP addresses. I suppose you could make a custom rule for that in SA if you don't use Postfix. So far that rule has never blocked any legitimate email. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Exim 4.22 and SA 2.55

2003-08-25 Thread Covington, Chris
x27;s very simple to learn and administer. Check out www.postfix.org and the postfix mailing list. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher M. Iarocci Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:56 PM To: Covington, Chris; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Exim 4.22 and SA 2.55

2003-08-19 Thread Covington, Chris
Why don't you consider Postfix and Amavisd-new, since you're switching to a new mailer anyway? http://www.geocities.com/scottlhenderson/spamfilter.html Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher M. Iarocci Sent: Tuesday, August 19,

RE: [SAtalk] Brian Platt/Hgsi is out of the office.

2003-08-15 Thread Covington, Chris
Oh boy, I thought this kind of problem was reserved for the luser/MCSE lists... Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Brian Platt/Hgsi is out o

[SAtalk] installing sa on shell solaris account

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, I'm trying to install SA 2.55 on a Solaris shell account I have which uses AFS in an institutional (.edu) setting. I'm able to compile SA with the following options: perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=~/utils/sausr SYSCONFDIR=~/utils/saetc INSTALLSITELIB SITELIBEXP make make install But when I run

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I don't know how you're doing this, but my Ham and Spam public folders work exactly as >specified. Are you certain your users aren't forwarding them there, but rather dragging >& dropping from Outlook? Are your users conne

RE: [SAtalk] amavisd-new/postfix bouncing SPAM

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
To answer my own question, it looks like I have to use $final_spam_destiny = D_DISCARD with Postfix in order to not bounce spams. I have them quarantined. Chris -Original Message- >>The Postfix program >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 550

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Guys, FYI I have upgrade to Exchange 2003 and there is no longer a problem with full headers being retrieved by IMAP, even if some messages are "posts" in the public folders and others are "notes." And also, PR_INTERNET_CONTENT still disappears on messages moved to the public folders, but it does

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Tony et al. I guess I'll let the cat out of the bag. Tom Meunier discovered the M$-known issue. The problem is http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817809 which is basically that public folders' emails are treated as PR_MESSAGE_CLASS IPM.Note instead of IPM.Post. Those of you who don't have the pro

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- >From: Martin Bene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Headers are still there; I haven't used a "normal mail client, instead >I use teh perl script posted on the list earlier this year: >http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=104806917615490&w=2 > >The downloade

RE: [SAtalk] Testing a newsletter against SA online

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
You and every spammer out there would love to know from a simple web page what SA would think of their messages... Why don't you just save a copy of the full message you've received on an outside account and then spamassassin -tD < testmessage? Chris -Original Message- From: Rickard Ande

[SAtalk] amavisd-new/postfix bouncing SPAM

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Does anyone know how to prevent amavisd-new w/postfix from bouncing SPAM? I have the following defaults set in amavisd.conf: >$final_virus_destiny = D_BOUNCE; # (defaults to D_BOUNCE) >$final_banned_destiny = D_BOUNCE; # (defaults to D_BOUNCE) >$final_spam_destiny = D_REJECT;

[SAtalk] amavisd and local.cf whitelist

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, Does amavisd-new pick up local.cf whitelist_from(s) or only its own map { $whitelist_sender{lc($_)}=1 } (qw());? thanks Chris --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals,

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- >From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unfortunately that's not it... Your message for example shows >up as an IPM.Note, and when I copy it to the public spam folder >it remains an IPM.Note, except exchange deletes the >PR_INTERNET_CONTENT property while copying.

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Martin Bene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If I tell you that it "just worked" for me, this probably isn't very helpful. >Still: > * I created the public folder in Outlook and selected "email" as folder type. > * mail dropped in the new folder apears as a

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Ryan Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Tony (or anyone else in the know), > >Could you post more details about how you were able to handle the >headers problem in Exchange 2000? I have had the same problems as Chris >extracting meaningful header information fro

RE: [SAtalk] I just realized something..

2003-08-08 Thread Covington, Chris
I just want to know how long it's going to take for spammers to learn to spoof MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and get by a few filters. ;) Chris -Original Message- From: Jonathan Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [

[SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-04 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, RH 9, amavisd-new 06162003, Postfix 2.0.13, SA 2.55. I've been using the wonderful script from: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=105622875610715&w=2 I instruct users to move undetected SPAM to Public Folders. But I've noticed that Exchange 2000 Public Folders in IMAP

[SAtalk] sa-learn and exchange

2003-08-01 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, Has anyone thought of/found an automated solution to removing messages from an Exchange system and cronning sa-learn on them? Right now I have users move spam that makes it past SA/Postfix into a Public Folder, and then I move that into a special user's mailbox, run pine, export the messa

[SAtalk] local.cf ignored

2003-07-28 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, I'm running SA 2.55 on two RH 9 servers each with Postfix 2.0.13 and amavisd-new (20030616) installed in default locations. Though SA is running great with its default settings, it seems that the local.cf file in /etc/mail/spamassassin isn't being used (IE it's ignored), though it has 644