Re: [SAtalk] Re: procmail programming keyword sorting

2003-03-17 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 the voices made LuKreme write: L Actually,never having used exitcode I really had no idea even what he L was trying to do. We... the blind leading the blind... *grabs a bowl of popcorn* When does the next show start? Sowwy... I'm not really a mean person... ;-) --

[SAtalk] the increase in spam traffic

2003-03-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
For the past cpl of weeks my personal e-mailaccounts' daily been getting 150- 200% of the number of UBE I used to get on a very bad day about 3-4 months ago; and although I'm pretty sure part of that is me pissing people off with that speciel kind of charm that's part of my lovely personality, I

Re: [SAtalk] Comments on 2.50

2003-02-24 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 the voices made [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: Young whipper-snappers. When I started coding we had to enter code through front panel switches, and read our output on the console lights - and we had to replace at least three vacuum tubes per run. On the newest machines, we

[SAtalk] Is a BondedSender-user here?

2003-02-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
If there is a bondedsender on this list, please send me an e-mail... I'm testing a rewritten client, and although everything seems to be ok it'd be nice to get it verified in a non-test environment. =) -- /\___/\ /\___/\ \_ _/

Re: [SAtalk] Removing SpamAssassin

2003-02-18 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 the voices made Susan Civil-Brown write: SC I never downloaded SpamAssassin, so I don't know what it's doing on my SC computer. I certainly don't need it as I have a good spam program, and SC SpamAssassin tends to screw up messages that have to do with putting things SC on my

Re: *SPAM* Re: [SAtalk] GRRR!! - Family H-core party (fwd)

2003-02-14 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 the voices made LuKreme write: L have they done se and secs and sekz already? Number of hits in the db, and spampoints (0-1): sekz 1 0.000415 secs 117 0.092999 seks 21 0.511654 Sekz

Re: [SAtalk] GRRR!! - Family H-core party (fwd)

2003-02-14 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 the voices made Michael Moncur write: MM Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: MM MM seks is now getting 0.807152 on a 1 = spam and 0 = ham-scale here, so MM before your e-mail starting messing it up it was a perfect MM spam-sign for my MM bayesian filter; bad you. ;-) MM MM If you're

[SAtalk] HTML-comment as BayesBuster?

2003-02-14 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
html!--I talked with my son the other day -- body bgcolor=3D#FF text=3D#00 font face=3DVerdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=3D2Interest r= ates are at their lowest point in over 40 years! Find out how much money you could = be saving by visiting a

Re: [SAtalk] 'Norton Antivirus' hoax?

2003-02-14 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 the voices made Mike Loiterman write: ML I keep getting these alert messages that Norton Anitvirus has detected and ML qiarantined various viruses. Has anyone else seen these, if so, whats the ML best way of blocking them? There doesn't seem to be any common them other ML

Re: [SAtalk] False positive in RCVD_IN_RFCI test

2003-02-10 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
BA On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:24:51 - Kevin Anthoney BA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BA Apologies for top posting, BTW. I'm at work, hence $£@@@#!! Outlook. URL: http://www.flash.to/oe-quotefix/ -- /\___/\ /\___/\ \_@ @_/

[SAtalk] Independent Customer Services (subscriber offers) (fwd)

2003-02-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
Since this seems to be the show-n-tell week I thought I'd share this beauty... -- Forwarded message -- Received: from mx3.luth.se (mx3.luth.se [130.240.42.13]) by moon.campus.luth.se (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h17FfUxh015410 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 7 Feb

Re: [SAtalk] Does anyone know how to setup Spam Assassin toautomatically count all messages over a certain size as spam so they can bebounced back?

2003-02-04 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 the voices made Jess Anderson write: JA Tony Earnshaw: JA Kelly Annette Jameson: JA JA Does anyone know how to setup Spam Assassin to automatically count all JA messages over a certain size as spam so they can be bounced back? JA JA Isn't this something your MTA should

Re: [SAtalk] Posting spam here

2003-02-03 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 the voices made Jeremy Turner write: JT On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:42, Lance W. Haverkamp wrote: JT I don't think I'll be using Spamassassin any longer. I can't imagine ANY JT spam filter program not catching that email. JT JT From what I've read on this list and on

Re: [SAtalk] Received: from bowser (bowser.slooff.net [192.168.0.3])

2003-01-31 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 the voices made Tony Earnshaw write: TE If there had been a you-must-expect-spam-from-our-posters warning on TE this list, I would have expected it as something natural. As it was, it TE took me by surprise. In future it won't :-) This is a list about a product that battles

Re: [SAtalk] False positive for foreign language

2003-01-27 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 the voices made Matt Kettler write: MK (hmm, I see this tempting Tony and several others to send me a bunch of MK non-spam emails in a language I don't speak... hmm) Vad får dig att tro det? ;-) Honestly, I don't have much non-english e-mails that either aren't personal or

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-16 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 the voices made Martin Schroeder write: MS [Please limit your line length to =70 chars/line] MS MS On 2003-01-15 22:42:07 -, Stephane wrote: MS exists today disappears ? With opensource you cannot have a MS contractual engagement to provide support or updates, nor can MS

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassasin corupting email.

2003-01-12 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 the voices made Nick Marino write: NM From: Tony L. Svanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] NM It could be the server... I've had some problem with servers doing NM base64-decoding, problems which could maybe result in problems like yours. NM I dont think so as its only doing

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassasin corupting email.

2003-01-12 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 the voices made Nick Marino write: NM It is only doing it to some HTML messages other come out fine. and I told you that with this problem with the server that I mentioned it would only do this to _some_ HTML-messages! Some, not all, only some. Did you bother to check if

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassasin corupting email. This is directed totony@svanstrom.com

2003-01-12 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 the voices made Nick Marino write: NM I asked for help not your opinion on my posting methods. URL: http://jump.to/oe-quotefix # Description # # OE-QuoteFix will extend the functionality of MS Outlook Express in numerous # ways! Its main purpose is to modify message

Re: [SAtalk] My posting

2003-01-12 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 the voices made Nick Marino write: NM So for that I appologize. But when someone is learning and trying to NM understand new things please don't be so rude when you respond to them you NM are more than likely to get a rude response back. Just take a look at what you've

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassasin corupting email.

2003-01-11 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 the voices made Nick Marino write: NM I have been having problems with SA stripping CRLF and just putting in LF in NM some not all email going through my server. NM NM It seems to only do it to mail that is in HTML format but it doesn't do it NM to all HTML emails. It could

Re: [SAtalk] Did the acquisition kill the lists?

2003-01-09 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 the voices made Jason Levine write: JL Where else are the lists archived online? I've always just read the list JL on the SourceForge archives, which truly don't have any messages to any of JL the SA lists since 1/7/03 in the morning; I just signed up for sa-talk JL today so

Re: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-09 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 the voices made Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder write: ADvB They probably signed any number of NDAs during the negotiation, so ADvB warning the community before the deal was complete was obviously not ADvB possible. A short explanation to the list at the time when the deal

Re: [SAtalk] RE: OT: Dynamically updating /etc/mail/access

2003-01-09 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 the voices made Andrew M. Hoying write: AMH The spamlist (http://basic.wirehub.nl/spamlist-extended.txt, 3,5 MB) AMH is updated every hour. If you like, you can just use the domain names AMH by grepping JUNK$ from http://basic.wirehub.nl/spamlist.txt. I did a quick check

Re: [SAtalk] Guidelines for Mass Mailings

2003-01-09 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 the voices made Vivek Khera write: VK JM == Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VK VK Well written, good content, and industry specific. Also simply having a real VK email address to reply back is good. VK VK JM Actually -- that's a very good point -- read the replies,

Re: [SAtalk] Did the acquisition kill the lists?

2003-01-08 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 the voices made Jason Levine write: JL I'm just wondering if the NAI acquisition of Deersoft killed the mailing JL lists; there hasn't been a post to any of the lists mirrored on JL SourceForge since 9:34 AM on 1/7/2003. Nope, it's business as usual nowadays. =) --

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Malte S. Stretz write: MSS On Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:16 CET Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: MSS [...] MSS What NetAss can do, via their employees running this project, is to MSS change the license somewhat... which won't hurt anyone today, next week MSS or even

Re: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Copeland, Mary R write: CMR But I still have my question about how the addresses I've added to my CMR blacklist can contribute to updating the spam filters database. They can't; SA doesn't focus on blacklisted addresses, instead it works by looking at

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Theo Van Dinter write: TVD On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:23:44PM +0100, Malte S. Stretz wrote: TVD continues. Nobody can buy an open source project and make it closed source TVD without _all_ it's contributors agreeing on a license change. I for my own TVD

[SAtalk] MIME-headers with comments in them

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
(Somewhat stolen from a posting by [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the procmail-list) URL: http://www.virusbtn.com/resources/viruses/indepth/junkmail.xml a header like that: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=TFICLMGJ could be altered to that:

Re: [SAtalk] RBLS w/ known spam sources, Theo, and I'm starting to see the lig ht!

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 the voices made Justin Mason write: JM (Open proxies are easy to test for automatically upon mail receipt, JM you see. Might even make a good SpamAssassin test some day, as long JM as we could rig up some kind of online test-result collator so each JM site only gets tested

Re: [SAdev] RE: [SAtalk] MIME-headers with comments in them

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 the voices made Tony Hoyle write: TH I'm more worried about what happens when a virus starts using this - how TH many mailers TH are able to block executable attachments when the mime data is munged this TH badly? What really worries me is what happens when people start

[SAtalk] [±¤!--3Cv--°í]

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
These HTML-comment in spam sign-thingies are spreading... =( Received: from www.airconworld.net ([210.114.228.88]) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: ±èÈ£Áø[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:38:25 +0900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=euc-kr Subject:

Re: [SAtalk] NAI buys Deersoft

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 the voices made Tobias von Koch write: TvK http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNewsstoryID=1997874 It makes sense; it's a positive thing for both NetAss and Deersoft... the community OTOH... who knows; most likely a lot of PR resulting in how can I use

Re: [SAtalk] MIME-headers with comments in them

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 the voices made Ray Dzek write: RD Umm...Since this thread started on another list, could somebody please RD explain, in english, the significance of the munged header? Just reread the first one to this list, it was by me and it included the URL to the story. The

Re: [SAtalk] Return Spam to Sender

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 the voices made Jerry Rasmussen write: JR How do you configure SpamAssassin to return spam to the sender? Impossible, both the returning and the configuring SA to do it part. -- /\___/\ /\___/\ \_@ @_/

Re: [SAtalk] ha

2003-01-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 the voices made Justin Mason write: JM well, looks like someone's updated their scanner already ;) Too bad they could code quicker than they could think. =/ -- /\___/\ /\___/\ \_@ @_/

RE: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-28 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 the voices made Mike Loiterman write: ML On Wednesday, December 25, 2002 1:54 PM Tony L. Svanstrom mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ML 0 ML * ^X-Rot-Version: ML{ MLEXITCODE=77 ML:0 ML/dev/null ML} ML Actually, one quick addendum

Re: [SAtalk] Any spam using In-Reply-To/References-headers?

2002-12-28 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 the voices made Daniel Quinlan write: DQ Tony L. Svanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DQ DQ Has there been any confirmed cases of spammers using DQ In-Reply-To/References-headers (to avoid spamfilters)? DQ DQ Ie, using those headers to make their spam look like DQ a reply

RE: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-28 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 the voices made Mike Loiterman write: ML I deleted the exit code for now, but I'm interested in fixing the ML permission denied message so it doesn't bounce back. Would you have any ML ideas about how to do this? I guess that's a question for the Procmail ML mailing list,

Re: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-26 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 the voices made Vivek Khera write: VK TLS == Tony L Svanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VK VK TLS I want to add one thing: SA could actually be a weakness... VK VK TLS As one rule among many this sure spamsign might not be enough to VK TLS tag the e-mail as spam, and even

Re: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 the voices made Mike Loiterman write: ML X-Rot-Version: zvxr^nfpraqrapl(arg ML ML Could this ever be used for legitimate uses? Also - what sort of rule ML would be best to blacklist an email with this in the header? Should it ML just be points or should it be blacklisted?

[SAtalk] Did I not reply yesterday and/or today?

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
I don't really want to admit this, but some time late last night (local time, earlier than late if you're in the US) I managed to seriously screw up my mailfiltering... meaning that if I've ever sent you an e-mail and/or you replied to something I'd written, then late yesterday/today your e-mails

RE: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 the voices made Mike Loiterman write: ML How would I block it at the MTA? I assume you're talking about Sendmail. ML What about a concise rule for SA? I'm extremely poor with regexp and any ML help would be greatly appreciated. Would this do it: ML ML ML X-Rot: =~

[SAtalk] Re: [elektrosmog] hotspot directory

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
If it wasn't for me having the attentionspan of an over-caffeinated, sugar- hyped 3 year-old I might have remembered to make the point that an XML-based standard not tied to the firmware of the AP and created by open source-people easier can find its way into APs, then the other way around; and

RE: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 the voices made Mike Loiterman write: ML Is there an advantage to using one or the other (procmail recipe vs SA ML rule)? It seems odd to hard code such things into procmail, IMO. Seems ML like SA rules are easier to implement, change or remove. For now, I'll use ML this:

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [elektrosmog] hotspot directory

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
I'm an idiot... just ignore this. =) On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 the voices made Tony L. Svanstrom write: TLS If it wasn't for me having the attentionspan of an over-caffeinated, sugar- TLS hyped 3 year-old I might have remembered to make the point that an XML-based TLS standard not tied

Re: [SAtalk] X-Rot version

2002-12-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 11:27:06PM +0100, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: It depends on what you want to do; if you want to have hundreds of rules with different scores, then SA is way superior, but if you've got a simple hit this one and die die die-thing then why waste your servers time having

[SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] [Bug 177] Daily Dilbert mail gets tagged as SPAM.

2002-12-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 the voices made [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Unitedmedia seems to be a reasonably big syndicate. The Dilbert Newsletter is opt-in only. Many people subscribe to it. This is clearly a won't fix, because real geeks either sitescrape or let procmail

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with all_spam_to

2002-12-19 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 the voices made Justin Mason write: JM If anyone can suggest others added by other MTAs, it'd be much appreciated. With some luck you can get the env-address out of one of the Received-headers. /t -- # Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards

Re: [SAtalk] Re: OT: No tag? (was: sql support)

2002-12-13 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 the voices made Duncan Findlay write: Funny, I don't want people to CC me on replies (or even address them To me). That's why I'm not in my Reply-To or Mail-Followup-To: header. Yet, strangely enough, I do get CC'd most of the time. It's standard behavior when you reply

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Rejection Message

2002-12-13 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 the voices made James D. Stallings write: Does anyone know if there is a way that I can have SA send a message that is detected as spam back to the spammer stating you are not welcome and this message is blocked...?? 1. SA doesn't send nor delete e-mails, it just tags

bayesian vs spamassassin (Was: Re: [SAtalk] Anti-spam-assassination?)

2002-12-12 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 the voices made Justin Mason write: (a) it lets legit publishers avoid relatively-obvious trouble areas (like talking about spam laws etc.) Like everyone already could do, but only spammers bothered to do. (b) it lures spammers into a false sense of security, as

Re: [SAtalk] Hi-Speed-Mail and its ilk

2002-12-08 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 the voices made Mike Burger write: Out of curiosity..I've been rejecting with a code of 550...what's the difference between 550 and 553? URL: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2821.txt #4.2.2: # 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable # (e.g.,

Re: [SAtalk] Suggestion to Reduce False Positive

2002-11-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 the voices made John Rudd write: 1) Have your mail client put a copy of all outgoing messages into a particular folder (like Sent). (most clients do this already, so its no big deal) 2) Write a program which parses that file out and adds those addresses to a file,

Re: [SAtalk] Suggestion to Reduce False Positive

2002-11-25 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 the voices made Jeremy Zawodny write: Well, it's not *trivial* but I don't think it's huge either. You need to scan all outgoing mail and maintain a list of destination addresses. Then integrate that into a site-wide SA whitelist. Am I missing some complexity? Well,

Re: [SAtalk] Suggestion to Reduce False Positive

2002-11-24 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 the voices made Steve Evans write: Keep a database with every address that e-mail is sent to. Have a rule with a negative value that checks that database on incoming mail. I find it quite unlikely that any address that someone would send a message to would ever be

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Slashdot Article

2002-11-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 the voices made Justin Mason write: Still, it'd be nice to know *what* they plan to do with it, how they plan to make it available to other antispam filter devvers without giving it all away to spammers, and if they have any plans for QAing the submitted spam -- it's very

Re: [SAtalk] An interesting way to get around filters

2002-11-18 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 the voices made Bob Amen write: Philip Mak wrote: I wonder what would happen if the spammer had sent X-Spam-Flag: NO as part of the header in the spam message. Would it fool procmail/maildrop? I doubt it would fool procmail. It won't fool procmail.

Re: [SAtalk] Web Config

2002-11-13 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 the voices made Nathan Henderson write: What would be the best way to go about setting up an html control panel for configuring whitelists and such? Learning how to program CGI-related things would be a great start. =) /Tony -- # Per scientiam ad libertatem! //

Re: [SAtalk] Web Config

2002-11-13 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 the voices made Rick Macdougall write: phpsa.php is included with spamassassin and only requires fixing a few typos. Hey, please remind me to keep my keys of the keyboard the next time I want to write a less than helpful e-mail (ignore the e-mail I sent about a minute ago

Re: [SAtalk] You have a secret admirer

2002-10-31 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
http://javascript.internet.com/ Use this script in HTML documents where you would place an email address. script language=JavaScript!-- // hide script var sb_domain = mydomain.co.uk var sb_user = username var sb_recipient = sb_user + @ + sb_domain var sb_url = mailto:; + sb_recipient

RE: [SAtalk] You have a secret admirer

2002-10-31 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 the voices made Steve Thomas write: | As suggested before, I think it's always a good idea to rewrite email | addresses on the web not to look like [EMAIL PROTECTED], but, of course, this | won't last for very long as e.g. sf.net's user AT host DOT tld is quite | easy to

RE: [SAtalk] You have a secret admirer

2002-10-31 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 the voices made Steve Thomas write: I considered that, which is why I went from adding one character to three. The odds of me hitting on a domain that exists are pretty slim. Maybe I'll grab all of the domains out of the archives and see how many actually exist. I'll bet

RE: [SAtalk] You have a secret admirer

2002-10-31 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 the voices made Steve Thomas write: | what about changing the tld to .invalid? Too easy for the spammers to spot. I'd rather they waste their time and resources and add pollution to their address lists than discard the address from the get-go. Do both... I don't want to

RE: [SAtalk] You have a secret admirer

2002-10-31 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 the voices made Jan Korger write: But what if spammers do randomly add guessed domain names to their lists? Whatif someone sells guessed email addresses to spammers? My point is, if spammers do add wrong addresses to their dbs and don't even remove them if there's no MX

Re: [SAtalk] winpopup spams - article

2002-10-16 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 the voices made Kenneth Porter write: BTW, an open port 135 might as well be considered a solicitation for a message, so it would be hard to prosecute anyone using this to send a spam. BTW, an open port 25 might as well be considered a solicitation for a message...

Re: [SAtalk] Possible spam signature

2002-10-15 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 the voices made Martin Radford write: I've spotted in the last day or so a possible spam-indicator based on the Message-ID of a number of recent spams. These have the format: Message-ID =~ /^10[0-9]{8}\.[0-9]{7}\.0\@\S+$/ (i.e ten digits dot seven digits dot zero @...)

[SAtalk] RE: eNom Inc. $6.95 Domain Pricing (fwd)

2002-09-19 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
Thought y'all'd be interested in their reply... -- Forwarded message -- From: Jennifer Bogren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tony L. Svanstrom' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:18:35 -0700 Subject: RE: eNom Inc. $6.95 Domain Pricing Hi Tony, We found you on Google.com. You

[SAtalk] doing business with eNom Inc, do or don't?

2002-09-18 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
Would anyone care to share their thinking regarding doing business with eNom? A quick google seems to indicate that they're a really bad spamming company going after just about anyone, but AFAIK their services are exactly what I want and at a price that I'm comfortable with; so... before

Re: [SAtalk] Re: SA wont label spam!

2002-09-13 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 the voices made Adrian Hill write: NB: Please set your newsgroup browser to post in text-only mode. HTML is not fully supported by all newsgroup readers and is also much less efficient, taking longer to download. Spamassassin only does the detection of spam, and will run

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with rewrite_mail when is_mime

2002-07-24 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 the voices made Joerg Henner write: I've a similar problem. When mail is tagged as SPAM, and the mail itself is encoded (MIME, multipart, ...) i cant see/view those attachments (it looks like, there is all-in-one part after the spamassassin -P command). Any solutions for

Re: [SAtalk] Graphics-only spam?

2002-07-24 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 the voices made Matthew Cline write: On Wednesday 24 July 2002 09:02 am, Hess, Mtodd, /mth wrote: I hate to bring this up, but I see more and more spams that contain very little, if any, text. Instead, most of the spam text is in a graphic image. How will we be able

Re: [SAtalk] Graphics-only spam?

2002-07-24 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 the voices made Matthew Cline write: The GA can only handle rules that give a simple hit or miss-result, right? There would be multiple rules, like ratio 0.9, ratio 0.5, ratio 0.3, and so on. I was just interested in the limitations, lack thereof, in the almightly

Re: [SAtalk] Reporting....

2002-07-23 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 the voices made Joel Epstein write: I currently have spam being filtered for about 50 users via spamd. Works perfectly! However, is there anyone out there providing reports to their users about what was filetered? Maybe just something like date/time, From, and subject?

[SAtalk] off-list --- Re: [SAdev] Scoring Yahoo Ads

2002-07-23 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 the voices made Marc Perkel write: Yes they are!! I didn't solicit the Yahoo ad. ADVERTISING = SPAM. But you still missed my POINT so you should read my message and quit arguing values. (I don't want to add to the noice on the list any longer, just one last comment and

RE: [SAtalk] Microsoft developer newsletter tagged as spam

2002-07-23 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 the voices made Bart Schaefer write: TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY UNSUB_PAGE MAILTO_WITH_SUBJ These are the other big positives, all hitting on legitimate opt-out mechanisms. Why is it a bad thing to provide several different ways to opt out? When together

Re: [SAtalk] off-list --- Re: [SAdev] Scoring Yahoo Ads

2002-07-23 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
Oooops, first I started writing this off-list, then I changed my mind but forgot about the subject-change... =( On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 the voices made Tony L. Svanstrom write: On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 the voices made Marc Perkel write: Yes they are!! I didn't solicit the Yahoo ad. ADVERTISING

[SAtalk] Spam Doesn't Work? [slashdot]

2002-07-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
URL: http://slashdot.org/articles/02/07/22/1516234.shtml?tid=111 Discussing the article/page at: URL: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2557 /Tony -- # Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards freedom! # # Genom kunskap mot frihet! =*= (c)

[SAtalk] Re: Spam Doesn't Work? [slashdot]

2002-07-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 the voices made Shane Williams write: If only the original article had anything to do with spam. The study focused not on commercial or bulk mail, but how likely respondents were to answer a simple question, and whether that likelihood changed if there were only one or

[SAtalk] tiny spam-abductor

2002-07-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
I just want some positive feedback regarding a project that will design software that will remove ads in e-mails, once I get that I'll start with the actual code... Would people be interested in using and/or writing plugins for the different services that they use? /Tony -- # Per

RE: [SAtalk] tiny spam-abductor

2002-07-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 the voices made Robert Strickler write: On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 the voices made SpamTalk write: Like the thinkgeek at the bottom of these postings? ;) Yeah, I was planing on having all plugins off when installed, and some scale on morality, or whatever it might be

Re: [SAtalk] How to add rules?

2002-07-22 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 the voices made Joel Epstein write: ok... now what? =) If the following is in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, why does the following mail not get tagged? Are you using spamc/spamd and forgot to restart spamd? /t -- # Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through

Re: [SAtalk] Gotcha! IP, date and time - you gave me all I need :o)

2002-07-18 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thursday 18 July 2002 03:51 CET Kenneth Porter wrote: On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 16:10, Malte S. Stretz wrote: Very nice! On my website [1] I have a public e-mail address which is created every time you visit a page and contains date, time and IP of the visit. Now, finally, I got

Re: [SAtalk] Gotcha! IP, date and time - you gave me all I need :o)

2002-07-18 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 the voices made Malte S. Stretz write: That's why I'm currently working on a way to obscure the localpart; compress and encipher it and encode it in a way that it is made of (lower case) characters and a few numbers only. But this won't work with SSI (at least without

Re: [SAtalk] Need a bit of help...

2002-07-16 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 the voices made Kevin Gagel write: MTA creates a temp file. I'm allowed to do anything with this file, so I launch spamc and send it to spamd via a pipe. Ie: spamc tempfile. Here is where I have the problem. Is SA supposed to alter the temp file? or am I supposed to pipe

[SAtalk] Re: Need a bit of help...

2002-07-16 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On 16 Jul 2002 the voices made Lance A. Brown write: spamc tempfile tempfile Which will result in an empty 'tempfile' being sent to spamc under most shells. You need to redirect the output to a different file and then move it back to tempfile after spamc completes. Sorry, I was

Re: [SAtalk] AWL issues

2002-07-15 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 the voices made Stacey Conrad write: Does the auto whitelisting work against you if, say, a user forwards you their spam for blocking? The name is confusing, because it's more of an auto white or black list-thing; sliding the scores up or down to even the average score

[SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] [Bug 520] Suggestion - No Auto White List - To=From

2002-07-10 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 the voices made [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: Matt suggests (and IMO it's a good plan) that we modify the AWL to use mailaddr:sendingip as the key instead of just mailaddr. This would avoid this problem, and the similar one where spammers are now forging spams with a From

RE: [SAtalk] Disable Porn Filtering

2002-07-10 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 the voices made Darren Coleman write: This is such a special case that it would probably be the wrong thing to do to insert additional rules into the public distribution of SA just to take account of this. Easiest solution is just to zero the rules or, if this isn't

RE: [SAtalk] Disable Porn Filtering

2002-07-10 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 the voices made Ryan Cleary write: On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 the voices made Darren Coleman write: This is such a special case that it would probably be the wrong thing to do to insert additional rules into the public

Re: [SAtalk] rule testing against corpus

2002-07-09 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 the voices made Craig Hughes write: And there's also the computation time involved in checking a rule -- particularly when said rule might be poorly written and have unpleasant regex characteristics. Could easily lead to deliberate of accidental DoS attacks against the

Re: [SAtalk] Interview with Spam King Scelson

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 the voices made Ben Jackson write: On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:24:38AM +0200, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: I've been hit by this too, and I can't help but think that these blacklists do more harm than good. Spammers will easily move on, but for the small non-tech company

Re: [SAtalk] rule testing against corpus

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 the voices made Patrice Fournier write: body LOCAL_LONG_WORD /[a-zA-Z]{90}/ describe LOCAL_LONG_WORD LOCAL: Long random word in body (90 chars+) scoreLOCAL_LONG_WORD 4.8 Why 90? Wouldn't it work better with 50 or 60, so that it catches ID-strings; or atleast

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Genetics?

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 the voices made Andrew Kohlsmith write: Has anyone taken a huge spam database and sent it through some sort of genetic learning program to see if spam can be identified that way? Um.. yeah. http://www.spamassassin.org. You might be familliar with them. That's only

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Genetics?

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 the voices made Andrew Kohlsmith write: That's only for scoring the humanmade rules; what he's talking about is more like letting the GA create both the rules and the scores. A neat trick but I haven't seen *any* genetic algorithm able to both ask the questions *and*

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Genetics?

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 the voices made Bart Schaefer write: On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: I guess you could [...] first rewrite the text, and then see if it's about selling and/or buying products and/or services. Except that about selling and/or buying products and/or services

Re: [SAdev] Idea: Flagging mass mail based on table of checksums(was: [SAtalk] Spam Genetics?)

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 the voices made Malte S. Stretz write: And you gave me another idea: SpamAssassin could track it's own table with checksums of mails it saw. If it received one mail more than, let's say, four times in three days then this mail is probably a mass mailing. This makes most

[SAtalk] AIs attacking our mailboxes IRL... [off-topic]

2002-07-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
About harvesting not e-mail but real addresses in a damn clever, way too clever, way... URL: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/02/07/07/2150208.shtml?tid=133 /Tony -- # Per scientiam ad libertatem! // Through knowledge towards freedom! # # Genom kunskap mot frihet! =*= (c) 1999-2002

RE: [SAtalk] Re: FAKED_UNDISC_RECIPS rule [was Rule misfires]

2002-07-06 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 the voices made CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson write: But with the large amount of Outlook Express users out there I imagine that this rule will cause alot of false positives. You can talk all day about MS not following RFC standards but in the end the customer still gets

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