Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread Eric Shubert
I don't see a real problem here. I think the -mtime parameter on directories causes empty directories to stick around longer than need be though. The script is a bit nicer in my mind. It processes each domain individually, and optionally gives statistics regarding what it did, without listing

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread BC
On 11/23/2013 8:55 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: Having said that, I've come to the conclusion that graylisting isn't worth it to me. I disabled graylisting several months ago, and haven't really noticed any less effectiveness. Measuring the effectiveness of gray

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread Eric Shubert
On 11/23/2013 09:05 AM, BC wrote: > > On 11/23/2013 8:55 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Having said that, I've come to the conclusion that graylisting isn't >> worth it to me. I disabled graylisting several months ago, and haven't >> really noticed any less effectiveness. Measuring the effectiveness of

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread BC
On 11/23/2013 9:39 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: But what is the "cost of graylisting"? Graylisting delays a legit email by X amount of minutes. Is that the pain of which you are talking? Yes. I realize that the impact of the delay is infrequent, but when

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread Angus McIntyre
BC wrote: > Yes. I realize that the impact of the delay is infrequent, but when it > happens, it's really annoying, and it impacts productivity. In my case, > it usually happens when an email confirmation or notification of some > sort is required to do something. This is the absolute worst time f

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread Eric Shubert
On 11/23/2013 09:39 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > I suppose the pruning script could be modified (quite easily in fact) to > give a count of how many empty files it removed. I think that would be > an accurate measure. I'm a little surprised I didn't think of that the > last time I edited the script. I

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread Sam Clippinger
For what it's worth, I agree. Graylisting was designed to stop spam coming from spambots on infected home PCs -- because they're not "real" mail servers, they won't retry their deliveries. But the rDNS and blacklist filters seem to stop almost all deliveries from home PCs these days, so grayli

Re: [spamdyke-users] 0byte graylist entries

2013-11-23 Thread BC
Thank you, Sam.  spamdyke is a wonderful spam blocker! On 11/23/2013 2:43 PM, Sam Clippinger wrote: For what it's worth, I agree. Graylisting was designed to stop spam coming from spambots on infected home PCs -- b