On 2014/09/20 23:23, Simon Slavin wrote:
...calls themself Tarquin
Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel
Oh you know him? We go way back... old Tim Biscuits we used to call him. It was fun watching the undertakers figure out how to get
all that on his
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:21:29 +0100
Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
Your suggestion essentially amounts to names are not
decomposable, so keep one version for the user and one for the
system.
Sorry, I don't think I got that across effectively. If I make up a
database that
On 21 Sep 2014 at 16:18, James K. Lowden jklow...@schemamania.org wrote:
Really? HM Revenue and Customs doesn't require you to distinguish
between your given and family names once a year?
Search me. As long as I get my tax adviser to file my tax return once a year,
and send them dosh twice
On 2014/09/21 17:18, James K. Lowden wrote:
...to get web payment forms to allow, for the love of God, spaces in credit
card numbers. --jkl
Now there's a worthy cause. Ditto for phone numbers (though they mostly are more lenient today). Also to allow hashes and dashes in
the address field.
Simon wrote about parts of names like e.g. the Dutch/Flemish 'van'
They should definitely not be capitalised
Is not always true. Especially in northern Belgium names are often spelled like
Van (often even connected with the last name) and I did personally the same to
see which of the two
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:42:26 -0700
Roger Binns rog...@rogerbinns.com wrote:
You do realise there are more people in the US than just those born
in the country with good old fashioned roman alphabet 26 ascii
letters?
Yes. Did I mention ASCII?
--jkl
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:40:52 +0100
Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
Problems arising from the schema you suggest:
1. select by last name
2. select by first name
3. duplicate detection[1]
4. however they want is unknown and idiosyncratic
5. whatever order may be more
On 20 Sep 2014, at 7:42pm, James K. Lowden jklow...@schemamania.org wrote:
I'm saying more than one sort order is often needed. If you don't
distinguish among the components of the person's name, you can't sort
by those components.
I don't understand why anyone would want to sort on
On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
Anyone who worked for a big company these days and created such a database
should get called in and told to do it again properly.
Along these same lines:
Your last name contains invalid characters
The problem with your suggestion of 'two uses = two fields' is that no sooner
do you do that then somebody comes up with additional uses, for example, formal
greeting, informal greeting, the appropriate form for government form X123, and
so on
John Hascall
IT Services
Iowa State Univ.
On
On 20 Sep 2014, at 9:42pm, Petite Abeille petite.abei...@gmail.com wrote:
Your last name contains invalid characters
http://blog.jgc.org/2010/06/your-last-name-contains-invalid.html
Ah yes, John Graham-Cumming. One of those sneaky non-standard-format foreign
names. Probably a terrorist.
On Friday, September 19, 2014 08:07:06 PM Simon Slavin wrote:
No, no he's just working on US Pulp Magazines. All pulp writers have
traditional names. He's not going to have any trouble.
Except, of course, with Daniel Keys Moran. Who doesn't use his first name
except when writing. And
On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:09pm, Mark Halegua phanto...@mindspring.com wrote:
I'm going to have a separate table for pennames. Lester del Rey will be last
name del Rey,
first name Lester.
My problem will be the following:
Therer are a number of writers who used several non de plummes,
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:02:30 +0100
Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
By the way I wanted to warn you about starting any project with first
name, middle name and last name fields. This leads to problems, and
I would go to some lengths to avoid it if possible. It would be
better to
Most systems that encompass non-western style names will use different terms:
formalname and familyname in preference to firstname and lastname. FirstName,
MiddleName, LastName imply ordering which does not necessarily hold. Calling
them FormalName, AncestorName, FamilyName more aptly
On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:58pm, James K. Lowden jklow...@schemamania.org wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:02:30 +0100
Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
By the way I wanted to warn you about starting any project with first
name, middle name and last name fields. This leads to problems, and
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:58pm, James K. Lowden jklow...@schemamania.org wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:02:30 +0100
Simon Slavin slav...@bigfraud.org wrote:
By the way I wanted to warn you about starting any project with
On 19/09/14 07:58, James K. Lowden wrote:
I wonder what problems you're talking about. Do you think the IRS,
the Social Security Administration, the DMV, the passport agency, your
birth certificate, and your local bank are just doing it wrong?
You do realise there are more people in the US
On 19 Sep 2014, at 7:42pm, Roger Binns rog...@rogerbinns.com wrote:
On 19/09/14 07:58, James K. Lowden wrote:
I wonder what problems you're talking about. Do you think the IRS,
the Social Security Administration, the DMV, the passport agency, your
birth certificate, and your local bank are
I've come upon a problem in sqlite3.
Here's the table:
CREATE TABLE contributors(
contrib_id integer primary key,
contrib_lname char not null,
contrib_fname char,
contrib_mname char,
writer int,
artist int,
editor int)
I've inserted several names. When I order by contrib_lname,
On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:40am, Mark Halegua phanto...@mindspring.com wrote:
Here are the commands:
select * from contributors order by contrib_lname, contrib_fname; (works
properly)
select * from contributors order by contrib_lname, contrib_fname desc; (get
the same order
as above)
Note
Simon,
that resolved it. I didn't know you needed to put the desc with both columns.
It means another table I had thought was properly ordered wasn't.
Thank you.
Mark
On Friday, September 19, 2014 12:50:57 AM Simon Slavin wrote:
On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:40am, Mark Halegua
On 19 Sep 2014, at 1:15am, Mark Halegua phanto...@mindspring.com wrote:
that resolved it. I didn't know you needed to put the desc with both columns.
It means another table I had thought was properly ordered wasn't.
Thank you.
You're welcome. Glad you figured it out.
By the way I
Thanks, I'll keep it in min. In this case, howevery, I don't think that will
be an issue. All of
the names are from American published pulp magazines, writers, artists, and
editors.
Mark
On Friday, September 19, 2014 02:02:30 AM Simon Slavin wrote:
On 19 Sep 2014, at 1:15am, Mark Halegua
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