Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Casey Sterbenz
Friends: Does anyone have one of the Microlux line of lathes and machine tools offered by MicroMark? The 7x10 lathe looks to be similar to the ones offered by Grizzly and Harbor Freight, but is more pricey. They also offer a 7x14 lathe with English, not metric, threads. Does anyone know

boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Z.R. Struzik
Dear Friends, I have about 2.0-2.5mm space between the boiler and the jacket and I wonder whether insulating the boiler would be a good idea and what the best material for this would be. I am considering ceramic sheet like the one used for the smokebox insulation or mineral or glass wool. The

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread James Curry
Tony: I bought the Grizzly Model G4000, 9 x 20. Jim

pickle acid

2002-10-02 Thread mart.towers
Is there any objection or disadvantage to the use of dilute HCl - available as brick cleaning acid - as a pickle for boilers, as opposed to the more common sulphuric or citric acids? Art Walker

Project Locomotive

2002-10-02 Thread Gordon Watson.
Steve, Ive had afair bit of practise building US 4-4-0s and offer the following , [1] Frames .laser cut in 3/16 steel,, the main problem is the long thin front portion which carries the cylinders it will finish up about 1/4 inch deep if you keep scale proportion, but is ok once you bolt

RE: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread steve boylan
Steve wrote: But seriously, coal-fired is what I have in mind, and a basic 4-4-0 or 4-6-0 American-style loco in 1:20 might be big enough and have the right proportions to accommodate a home-made coal-fired boiler. I've had this wild fantasy of building something more mid-nineteenth century:

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread JR May
Just one word of caution. I tend to think many people get turned off by live steam when they hear about he machinery that is required to build the locomotives. I know of a guy who built the most beautiful 3/4 Raritan you ever saw using just a 6 Atlas with a milling attachment and a decent

Re: Cricket Safety Valve Thread

2002-10-02 Thread The Bickfords
Thanks to all who replied to my question. I think it might be a Mike Chaney safety valve. The metric thread tricked me. Most of our locos have ME threads and with an American loco we assumed (silly us) that it must have an American thread. We did not the Chaney filler valve though. cheers

Re: pickle acid

2002-10-02 Thread Harry Wade
At 12:45 PM 10/2/02 +0100, you wrote: Is there any objection or disadvantage to the use of dilute HCl - available as brick cleaning acid - as a pickle for boilers, as opposed to the more common sulphuric or citric acids? Art Walker Art, That's what I have used in the past, but not because

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Keith Taylor
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very happy owner of a 1916 South Bend lathe! And me with my 11 x 36 1937 Southbend. I agree Keith! I found mine in one of my client's garage and paid $140! Bob Bob, It must be really nice to have such a modern lathe! Seriously,

List rules regarding selling items

2002-10-02 Thread Vince Gortner
Is it bad list etiquette to post an item I may be considering selling?I can't recall definitively if I've seen that type of posting on the list. In a completely unrelated topic, what kind of prices are used SRRL #24's trading hands at these days? Does the used steam market fluctuate

Re: List rules regarding selling items

2002-10-02 Thread Dave Cole
At 9:27 AM -0500 10/2/02, Vince Gortner wrote: Is it bad list etiquette to post an item I may be considering selling?I can't recall definitively if I've seen that type of posting on the list. no it is not against the rules (which are that individuals may sell, not companies), but few have

Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 956

2002-10-02 Thread VR Bass
I don't think anyone was proposing to make a 1n36 (1/32nd scale, 3' gauge) 4-4-0 from a std gauge loco! Oh. Well then. So what was being proposed was a set of plans that would build two different but basically identical locos, one standard gauge in 1:32 scale and the other narrow gauge in

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Kevin Strong
I've used cork without any ill effects. Later, K

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread VR Bass
Wool felt was the material of choice among builders in the UK way back in the good old days. I have used it on a couple of locos and it works well and holds up (surprisingly) well. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources:

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread mart.towers
I can't give the web-site reference, but boiler lagging tests by Chuck Hackett in the larger scales showed the following - adding a jacket, giving a trapped air gap, made a difference adding insulation ie. lagging, produced NO additional benefit. better however to have something to provide a

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread WaltSwartz
Hi, Could Fibreglass (woven or matting) as used in boat building be used as lagging? Keep your steam up! Walt

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Geoff Spenceley
Re lagging, I note that the Aster KGV kit had no insulation around the boiler--just an air gap. The burners and smoke box had insulation, of course. The Flying Scotsman doesn't either, yet both locos seem to run just as well as those with insulation (ceramic sheet or asbestos) . The boiler

Re: Lathes for Live (or limey) Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Jeff, I know. Just kidding about bringing it over. Will call you later this week. Regards, Tony D. At 10:23 PM 10/1/02 -0700, Jeffrey Williams wrote: Tony, It weighs a couple hundred pounds and it's bolted to a large table so the best solution is for you to come on over to try

RE: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Shyvers, Steve
Walt, I would choose to avoid fibreglass mat or cloth because: 1. It is difficult to cut accurately to small sizes and then it tends to pull apart. 2. It is difficult to handle and work a sheet of it without it changing shape and dimensions (as it pulls apart). 3. I have read that the

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Zbigniew, I do not know which engine design you have, or coal, alcohol or butane fired, but at 2-2.5mm gap you may be safe. But very dependant on actual model, materials and design. I recently experienced a major paint and soft soldered boiler ring meltdown on a new engine at the

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Keith, I was wondering when this suggestion would crop up. I did not want to raise this one, having lived approx 20 miles from the Myford factory in the UK, used them often, and was my model making lathe reference point. I have not seen any offered in the USA, or any agents. So if you

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Anthony Dixon
Kevin, Well, well, well!. So it was the cork burners who almost had the coal and kerosene burners kicked out of Sacremento!. Pleased of you to 'fess up after all this time. The truth will out!. Best Regards, Tony D. At 09:00 AM 10/2/02 -0600, you wrote: I've used cork

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Mike Chaney
Whilst it's quite possible to spend a small fortune on fancy materials for lagging, one that works very well and costs little is a cut up Weetabix packet. I kid you not. Mike

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Phil Paskos
Westabix packet? What's that? Phil Whilst it's quite possible to spend a small fortune on fancy materials for lagging, one that works very well and costs little is a cut up Weetabix packet. I kid you not. Mike

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Harry Wade
At 04:10 PM 10/2/02 -0400, you wrote: Westabix packet? What's that? Oh no! Don't get me started!! Regards, Harry

Re: pickle acid

2002-10-02 Thread Clint D
You can use it, but my opinion is that the HCI puts off more nasty type fumes Clint - Original Message - From: mart.towers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 6:45 AM Subject: pickle acid Is there any objection

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Jeanne Baer
I just discovered that Enco has a sale on their 9x20 bench lathe--$699. Lowest speed is 130 rpm. I have no Enco machines (just an 8 four-jaw chuck--works fine, needed no clean-up) so I don't know what the lathe is like. Walt did say he liked a mill of theirs. Victor Lacy

Re: pickle acid

2002-10-02 Thread Clint D
You can also go to a parts store and get battery acid, it has pure sulfuric diluted 3 to 1 in water Battery acid 1/3 sulfuric to 2/3 water then you can calculate how much more water to dilute it further. The last that I bought for my electroplating was like 6.00 for 5 gallons Clint -

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Keith Taylor
- Original Message - From: Anthony Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Keith, I was wondering when this suggestion would crop up. I also understand the factory does not have a web site, but a local machine tool agent in Beeston. UK. is the sole Web Site agent, but only for used

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Anthony Dixon
Hi Mike, What about Kelloggs and Rice Crispy boxes also!?. (just kidding) I thought the idea was to be inflammable as well as and insulator?. Regards, Tony D. At 08:38 PM 10/2/02 +0100, you wrote: Whilst it's quite possible to spend a small fortune on fancy materials for lagging,

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread JR May
Just curious, and this may be a stupid question... Our English locomotive, the Lady Edith (3' gauge, built 1887, Stephenson), came to the US with oak block lagging. We then put asbestos on it in the 1960s which we recently paid to have removed for some major boiler work. On a small

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Gary
Try http://www.mini-lathe.com/ the comma between lathe and com, in the first posting didn't work. ~Gary - The Train Trestle Nut www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor - Original Message - From: Clint D [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Clint D
Go to http://www.mini-lathe.com there is a good comparison review of them, also some info on the mini mills http://www.homier.com has the best pricing on the same machines, and faster shipping, and My opinion excellent service on warrantee items. http://www.littlemachineshop.com sells tooling

RE: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread Ciambrone, Steve @ OS
Weetabix packet? USA translation Please. Sincerely Steve Ciambrone Sr. Test Engineer L-3 Ocean Systems

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread mart.towers
- Original Message - From: Ciambrone, Steve @ OS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: RE: boiler insulation Weetabix packet? USA translation Please. Weetabix - a kind of dessicated, compressed,

Lathe question

2002-10-02 Thread Gary
What about companies like Prazi (I saw another either German or Austrian lathe/mill product at the Model Engineer's show in Eugene, Oregon last weekend), Shopmaster, Simplex, compared to Myford for example? Since Myford seems to be a good standard to measure other mid to mini sized lathes. ~Gary

Re: Lathe question

2002-10-02 Thread Paul Anderson
Gary wrote: What about companies like Prazi (I saw another either German or Austrian lathe/mill product at the Model Engineer's show in Eugene, Oregon last weekend), Shopmaster, Simplex, compared to Myford for example? Prazi's, in my opinion, are significantly overpriced. Shoptask

Re: boiler insulation

2002-10-02 Thread trotfox
Hey, at least Grits are made of corn. ;] Just coat it with sugar and butter and feel your arteries thank you. Wonder if we could pour it into the air-space between a boiler and it's wrapper? :] Trot, the fox who's only joking... about the pouring... On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, mart.towers wrote:

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Clint D
Oh No, I did a typo!! thanks for correcting that Clint - Original Message - From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Lathes for Live Steamers Try http://www.mini-lathe.com/ the

Re: Lathes for Live Steamers

2002-10-02 Thread Cgnr
In a message dated 10/2/02 7:25:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It must be really nice to have such a modern lathe! What is really nice is that it sat in his garage for 20 years without being used. I also got a 4 jaw and 3 jaw and many accesories. It was the deal of