Chuck et al,
I have no problem with an online survey, or discussion of said beast.
But as we have seen, from Geoff, and now Jeff, this has become a I
don't like this and you all need to listen to me! or They are the
only ones who do what I want so Back off!
I personally don't own an Aster, but
Okay. Sounds like a survey (poll) to find out what folks like or dislike is
a bad idea. Idea dropped!
My Best,
Chuck
Charles W. Walters
Twin Lakes Railway CEO
http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Anthony
In a message dated 3/18/2003 3:02:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
With that said, and in the hopes that the results of
such a survey would be valuable to a few manufacturers,
I have created a shell for an online survey
that allows for anonymity and report ability.
In a message dated 3/18/2003 3:02:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
In other words, you pay for it in advance and we will build
it!
Accucraft shifted the C-16 production to a build to oder
status, with approx 2 month lead time. I assume they will go
on building them
You're opening a can of worms now. I would be interested in hearing what
people have to say about this. I would guess that there are a few
favorites that are on the majority of lists. But the majority of people's
favorite locos are unique to their own list. One of the vendors had an
online poll
At 06:52 PM 3/17/03 -0800, you wrote:
Sounds like someone dislikes Aster in particular and people who run ' em
in general. Dem grapes sure are looking sour!
Wouldn't be the first. At DH several years ago an individual from
the northeast was noticeably vocal in his criticism of Aster, to
Great idea Pete!
A manufacturer would want to know what price people would be willing to pay
and when. I might fill in a survey saying I want a 1:20 scale mainline
mallet running on the correctly wider guaged track (to look right with my NG
1:20 stock) and willing to pay $3,374.97, but if I would
Pete,
I never said what the survey would ask, just gave examples. I asked the
listserv members to send ideas on what type of questions they would like to
see info gathered on and one of the questions already in the survey was,
What type of engine would you like to see manufactured?
My Best,
To All,
I am new to the Small Scale Live steamers and have been following these
threads for several weeks now. I was fortunate this year to attend DH and
observe the Mississippi Madness. At DH I ordered my Aster Mike and have
since completed the construction and test run the loco. I have been a
Boy, did this survey question ball get rollin'. Actually, when I
said that I didn't see why a manufacturer wouldn't be interested, I
wasn't assuming that they would use it for manufacturing/production
decisions (which would require all the rigidity suggested by Mr Cole).
And maybe I didn't
Oh, by the way. The objective is not to win the debate. It's to
benefit from views of those who disagree with us. (That's an original
quote).
royce in SB
To the group,
I have only a few ideas on polling live steam enthusiasts about their likes
and desires. Very different points.
I feel that any inquest should first establish how much a person wants to
spend/has for the purchase. Based on this a manufacturer knows one of the
principle
To the group.:
The idea of gathering information that I mentioned A few days ago was ONLY
for our own enjoyment. I mentioned Asters questionare only as an example of
how it did NOT work for marketing.
I am happy to see that we as a group are very passoinate about our hobby,
And enjoyed reading
Harry Wade wrote:
At 06:52 PM 3/17/03 -0800, you wrote:
Several years
ago when I was still riding all my riding buddies rode $15,000+ bikes and
mine might have brought $1500, but I rode just as far and as fast and had
just as much fun as they did, and I never had to worry about someone
Jon tells it like it is . . . if I had the money, I probably wouldn't avoid
buying any decent looking loco. Reality says I do not have that sort of
money, so I end up deciding on one purchase this decade and enjoy that
purchase while looking at other locos and enjoying them without having the
As a manufacture's distributor I thought it time to put in my 2 cents.
First, consider all of the known information about sold engines. (BTW,
Roundhouse can account for every engine sold. In 20 years they have sold
collectively less than 3000 engines. An average run is 10-12 engines once or
At 8:26 PM -0500 3/18/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My guess is
that there are less than 500-650 live steam enthusiasts (45 mm and less) in
the US who actually own and run engines.
that jibes with the numbers i've put together.
anyway, let's wrap this topic up ... i know i'm part of the reason it
If I did not like Aster loco's, why would I have 9 of them?
I also have 2 Crickets, loco's that I bellieve are the best value available.
1 Ruby, very early, not used often.
1 Cooper, kit bashed and a good runner.
To the best of my knowledge, Aster Japan never commissioned a survey of the
US.
My
Walt: Check with Dan Pantages. He has/had 6 2-8-0 Consolidations for sale.
These were scratch built by Phil Mac Donald of Canada. I helped fire and run
the prototype during the Seattle National Garden Railway Convention. After we
cured a alcohol leak in the vanderbilt tender it was a strong
At 07:49 PM 3/18/03 -0800, you wrote:
My choice for the next steamer? Probably more railroads in the US had
Consolidations than possibly any other type.
Exceeded only by the 4-4-0. It's amazing to me one of these hasn't
been done, at least in some incarnation other than a NG type. The
Hi Harry,
I agree. Many people would like a Ferrari, but 99.% cannot afford one,
or more realistic, and content with home tweaking their Ford/Chevy/Dodge
whatever, and less paraniod about
parking in Nordstrom's.
Regards,
Tony D.
At 10:17 AM 3/18/03 -0600, Harry Wade wrote:
At 06:52
I would like to see almost any NG small mallet with 4 to 6 drive axles.
Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon
http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy
http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor
WOW! I expected much more than that!
Here in tiny Eugene, Oregon I know of five live steam owners.
I would expect more than a mere 650 live steamers in the USA.
We are really a very tiny group.
I am glad to be on this chat list. Members have helped me resurrect
the Steamlines Shay from burned hulk
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