Re: [Standards] XEP-0124: which error if sid invalid?

2007-08-15 Thread Stefan Strigler
Hi Mridul, Am Mittwoch, den 15.08.2007, 19:11 +0530 schrieb Mridul Muralidharan: Intermediaries wont send a 404, which is what (i recall) the xep asks httpbind to send back in case of unknown/invalid sid. So we dont need to know the ver in this case (since httpbind assigns sid not client,

[Standards] XEP-0060 v. 1.10pre5

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
By popular demand, I have split some of the long sections in XEP-0060 into smaller chunks (similar to what I recently did in rfc3920bis and rfc3921bis). The results are here: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0060-1.10.html Diff from 1.10pre4 to 1.10pre5:

Re: [Standards] Jingle: UDP relays

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Scott Ludwig wrote: On Aug 14, 2007 4:05 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Unnikrishnan V wrote: The best approach, in my opinion is to have a generic network service record framework and XMPP registrar

Re: [Standards] whiteboarding and shared editing

2007-08-15 Thread Ian Paterson
Greg Hudson wrote: A generic XML editor isn't going to know much about the semantics of the document it is editing. It's not necessarily going to be a good framework for a whiteboarding application, any more than emacs is a good foundation for Photoshop. They both edit files, but...

[Standards] Group Name with Gateway Registration

2007-08-15 Thread Ian Paterson
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Ian Paterson wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: http://svn.xmpp.org:18080/browse/XMPP/trunk/extensions/xep-0100.xml?%40diffMode=u%40diffWrap=sr1=1092r2=1134u=3ignore=k= TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/2dxv5j That looks good, thanks :-) Super, I've added that to the

[Standards] Experimental XEPs (was: Re: whiteboarding and shared editing)

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Boyd Fletcher wrote: On 8/15/07 1:54 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: as an experimental protocol, Unlike the IETF, we don't have the concept of an Experimental spec. The closest we come is Informational specs. More here:

Re: [Standards] whiteboarding and shared editing

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
On 8/15/07 1:54 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed Aug 15 17:40:22 2007, Ian Paterson wrote: Greg Hudson wrote: In particular, I'd welcome the Council reinstating We can't reinstate something that has not yet been published. :) the SVG XEP

Re: [Standards] Group Name with Gateway Registration

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Ian Paterson wrote: Currently the name of the group that contacts will be added to tends to be hardcoded on the gateway. This causes problems if there are language issues or, more typically, if the user has two accounts on a legacy service (accessed via two instances of a gateway server) - in

Re: [Standards] whiteboarding and shared editing

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
On 8/15/07 4:12 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joonas got his approach working in Psi during the Summer of Code last year. did that ever get published and included in Psi. I doesn't appear in the Mac version. Ian has a working implementation of whiteboarding in

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs (was: Re: whiteboarding and shared editing)

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar process. I think we need a more organized approach to developing complex XEPs. On 8/15/07 4:01 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boyd

Re: [Standards] whiteboarding and shared editing

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Boyd Fletcher wrote: On 8/15/07 4:12 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joonas got his approach working in Psi during the Summer of Code last year. did that ever get published and included in Psi. I doesn't appear in the Mac version. I don't know the status of that code. It

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
On 8/15/07 5:34 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boyd Fletcher wrote: In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar process. Sure, people here can publish things on their

Re: [Standards] whiteboarding and shared editing

2007-08-15 Thread Boyd Fletcher
On 8/15/07 5:20 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mats has had a working implementation of whiteboarding in Coccinella for years now. true but if memory serves its not SVG based. But Mats contributed to some of the standardization work on XML synchronization. but as

Re: [Standards] Experimental XEPs

2007-08-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Boyd Fletcher wrote: In the W3, they publish in the internal working groups multiple versions of specs for a standard that then hash it out. I think we need a similar process. Sure, people here can publish things on their own websites and we can use those as input to the design process. But I

Re: [Standards] Jingle: UDP relays

2007-08-15 Thread Unnikrishnan V
what about thoughts for using : http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0128.html we dont need to re-invent the wheel ;-) thanx unni On 8/15/07, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Ludwig wrote: On Aug 14, 2007 4:05 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL