Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 suggestion (Stream management)

2009-03-12 Thread Joe Hildebrand
On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: The phrase "when the server gives stream features for resumption" could mean two things: 1. Whenever a server that supports stream resumption sends stream features. OR 2. When a server sends stream features to an initiating entity th

Re: [Standards] SASL digest-uri issues

2009-03-12 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Jack Moffitt wrote: So RFC 2831 says: digest-uri-value = serv-type "/" host [ "/" serv-name ] and RFC 3920 does not seem to specify anything else. Implementations seem to expect xmpp/DOMAIN whre DOMAIN is the domain part of the JID. One reading of 2831 might lead one to implement something

Re: [Standards] SASL digest-uri issues

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/12/09 4:45 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote: > So RFC 2831 says: > > digest-uri-value = serv-type "/" host [ "/" serv-name ] DIGEST-MD5 is being deprecated by the IETF: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sasl-digest-to-historic > and RFC 3920 does not seem to specify anything else. > > Implemen

Re: [Standards] SASL digest-uri issues

2009-03-12 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote: So RFC 2831 says: digest-uri-value = serv-type "/" host [ "/" serv-name ] and RFC 3920 does not seem to specify anything else. Implementations seem to expect xmpp/DOMAIN whre DOMAIN is the domain part of the JID. One reading of 2831 might le

[Standards] SASL digest-uri issues

2009-03-12 Thread Jack Moffitt
So RFC 2831 says: digest-uri-value = serv-type "/" host [ "/" serv-name ] and RFC 3920 does not seem to specify anything else. Implementations seem to expect xmpp/DOMAIN whre DOMAIN is the domain part of the JID. One reading of 2831 might lead one to implement something like: xmpp/talk.google.

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 suggestion (Stream management)

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/12/09 8:03 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > On 3/7/09 10:45 AM, Joe Hildebrand wrote: >> On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: >> >>> On Sat Mar 7 00:49:30 2009, Joe Hildebrand wrote: >>> - When the server gives stream features for resumption, it MAY include a hostname

[Standards] new gateway identities

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
I have received requests to add the following service discovery identities to the registry: [1] gateway/mrim for "mail.ru IM" a.k.a. MrIM [2] gateway/myspaceim for MySpace IM [3] gateway/facebook for Facebook IM [4] If there are no objections I shall add these identities to the registry. /psa

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: OutOfBand Stream Data

2009-03-12 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: OutOfBand Stream Data Abstract: This specification defines how to send parts of an XML stream over a direct connection between peers. This allows to send large stanzas or binary data without blocking the XML stream for oth

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread luca
Fabio Forno ha scritto: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Developers have been poking me about roster versioning: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html In fact developers are already implementing it. :) So we need to make a final decision: 1. Do we limit this

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Fabio Forno
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Developers have been poking me about roster versioning: > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html > > In fact developers are already implementing it. :) > > So we need to make a final decision: > > 1. Do we limit this to rosters? > >  

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Server IP Check

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/12/09 7:59 AM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: > An additional comment The document should be more explicit that it is > improper for the client to request the IP address the server > associations with it from any other server than that it is directly > attached to, and that when faced with an inappropr

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/12/09 12:06 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 3/12/09 11:53 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Pedro Melo wrote: On a side note: For the disco situation, the hash-based caps work already, and we coul

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Matthew Wild
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 3/12/09 11:53 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Pedro Melo wrote: >>> On a side note:  For the disco situation, the hash-based caps work already, >>> and we could ask server vendors to send a server presence

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/12/09 11:53 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Pedro Melo wrote: >> On a side note: For the disco situation, the hash-based caps work already, >> and we could ask server vendors to send a server presence on connect with >> their own caps. Caps to cache server disco#in

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Matthew Wild
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Pedro Melo wrote: > > On a side note:  For the disco situation, the hash-based caps work already, > and we could ask server vendors to send a server presence on connect with > their own caps. Caps to cache server disco#info might just work. > http://xmpp.org/exten

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 3/12/09 11:36 AM, Pedro Melo wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> Developers have been poking me about roster versioning: >> >> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html >> >> In fact developers are already implementing it. :) >> >> So we need to make a final de

Re: [Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Pedro Melo
On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Developers have been poking me about roster versioning: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html In fact developers are already implementing it. :) So we need to make a final decision: 1. Do we limit this to rosters? Implica

[Standards] roster versioning redux

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Developers have been poking me about roster versioning: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0237.html In fact developers are already implementing it. :) So we need to make a final decision: 1. Do we limit this to rosters? Implications: (a) it is included in rfc3921bis (b) it can't be

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Server IP Check

2009-03-12 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Mar 10, 2009, at 1:47 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Server IP Check Abstract: URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sic.html The XMPP Council will decide at its next meeting whether to accept this proposa

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Server IP Check

2009-03-12 Thread Remko Tronçon
> Some suggested changes. I suspect a couple will result in some discussion > on this list. :-) +1 for me. cheers, Remko

Re: [Standards] XEP-0198 suggestion (Stream management)

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Sorry, just catching up on the thread. An interesting discussion. :) On 3/7/09 10:45 AM, Joe Hildebrand wrote: > On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: > >> On Sat Mar 7 00:49:30 2009, Joe Hildebrand wrote: >>> I actually think that moving stream management after the bind is a >>> goo

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Server IP Check

2009-03-12 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
An additional comment The document should be more explicit that it is improper for the client to request the IP address the server associations with it from any other server than that it is directly attached to, and that when faced with an inappropriate request, the server MUST rejected it

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Server IP Check

2009-03-12 Thread Kurt Zeilenga
On Mar 10, 2009, at 1:47 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote: The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Server IP Check Abstract: URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sic.html The XMPP Council will decide at its next meeting whether to accept this proposa