Re: [Standards] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/7/17 1:14 AM, Kevin Smith wrote: > I think not re-issuing LC actually has the opposite effect, and reduces > public feedback. > > Take this case, for instance. I am newly on Council, so I didn’t review this > XEP thoroughly as part of the LC, now I have reviewed it more thorougly and I >

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0186 (Invisible Command)

2017-12-07 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0186. Title: Invisible Command Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP protocol extension for user invisibility. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0186.html This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2018)

2017-12-07 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0387. Title: XMPP Compliance Suites 2018 Abstract: This document defines XMPP protocol compliance levels. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0387.html This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on 2017-1

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0352 (Client State Indication)

2017-12-07 Thread XSF Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0352. Title: Client State Indication Abstract: This document defines a way for the client to indicate its active/inactive state. URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0352.html This Last Call begins today and shall end at the clos

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Steve Kille
Georg, > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg > Lukas > Sent: 07 December 2017 14:52 > To: standards@xmpp.org > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information > eXchange (MIX)) > > Hi Steve, > > thanks for your feed

Re: [Standards] [Council] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Sam Whited
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017, at 09:35, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > FWIW, I am in the process of re-issuing the LC right now. The push is > through, > I just wait for the build and then we’ll get the emails. First, because > the > text in XEP-0001 is pretty clear on this (and if you don’t agree, we have > to

Re: [Standards] [Council] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 15:18:57 CET Dave Cridland wrote: > Let's just issue another LC, then. While I agree it'd be lovely to get the > XEP done this year, it's not the end of the world and I don't see that > arguing about it will solve anything (especially if XEP-0001 has this in > the pr

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Dave Cridland
On 7 Dec 2017 15:52, "Georg Lukas" wrote: Hi Steve, thanks for your feedback. Please allow me some more remarks. * Steve Kille [2017-12-07 14:03]: > > | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not > > | interoperable with a MIX service. This means that where a user >

Re: [Standards] [Council] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Dave Cridland
On 6 Dec 2017 13:28, "Kevin Smith" wrote: On 29 Nov 2017, at 16:42, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > > Present: Dave (Chair), Kevin, Georg, Daniel, Sam > Minutes: Yours truly. > > Chat logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2017-11-29#15:55:08 > > > 1. XEP-0387 (Compliance Suites 2018), vote to move to Draft

Re: [Standards] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Sam Whited
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017, at 02:14, Kevin Smith wrote: > I think not re-issuing LC actually has the opposite effect, and reduces > public feedback. Again, what feedback would we get now that we wouldn't have gotten last time? > Take this case, for instance. I am newly on Council, so I didn’t review >

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Georg Lukas
Hi Steve, thanks for your feedback. Please allow me some more remarks. * Steve Kille [2017-12-07 14:03]: > > | 13. Although some protocol is shared with MUC, MUC clients are not > > | interoperable with a MIX service. This means that where a user > > | chooses to use MIX, all of the user

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Information eXchange (MIX))

2017-12-07 Thread Steve Kille
Georg, Thanks for your detailed review comments.Let me go over them. > -Original Message- > From: Standards [mailto:standards-boun...@xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Georg > Lukas > Sent: 05 December 2017 20:04 > To: standards@xmpp.org > Subject: Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0369 (Mediated Inf

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0387 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2017)

2017-12-07 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 18:58:32 CET Kevin Smith wrote: > On 6 Dec 2017, at 18:47, Sam Whited wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, at 12:12, Kevin Smith wrote: > >> I think 49 needs to be in there for servers - it’s widely needed to make > >> clients useful. > > > > What is actually using this t

Re: [Standards] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 08:14:48 CET Kevin Smith wrote: > On 7 Dec 2017, at 08:03, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > > On Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 17:03:16 CET Kevin Smith wrote: > >>> On 6 Dec 2017, at 16:39, Sam Whited wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, at 10:34, Kevin Smith wrote: >

Re: [Standards] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Kevin Smith
On 7 Dec 2017, at 08:03, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > > On Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 17:03:16 CET Kevin Smith wrote: >>> On 6 Dec 2017, at 16:39, Sam Whited wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, at 10:34, Kevin Smith wrote: The motivation in xep1 is that the outgoing Council members might have >

Re: [Standards] 2017-11-29 XMPP Council Meeting Minutes

2017-12-07 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 17:03:16 CET Kevin Smith wrote: > > On 6 Dec 2017, at 16:39, Sam Whited wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, at 10:34, Kevin Smith wrote: > >> The motivation in xep1 is that the outgoing Council members might have > >> not given public feedback, due to being on Counci