Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

XMPP Extensions Editor schreef op 28/05/2013 22:30: This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text). Abstract: This is a specification for real-time text transmitted in-band over an XMPP session. Real-time text is text transmitted instantly w

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Mark, It's done and ready for LAST CALL . Mark Rejhon schreef op 18/05/2013 19:45: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, XMPP Extensions Editor mailto:edi...@xmpp.org>> wrote: Version 0.9 of XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text) has been released. Abstract: This is a specification for real-t

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0308 (Last Message Correction)

0045: Multi-User Chat <http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html>. Please now correction at 0.3 XEP-0308 Thanks you Edward Tie.

Re: [Standards] Removal of company names from XEP-0301

01 to the best of my knowledge. Any comments? No comments. I agree it Thanks, Edward tie

Re: [Standards] Comments on XEP-0301 -- Section 1 - TTY

Op 23/08/2012 08:51, Gunnar Hellström schreef: On 2012-08-23 00:34, Matthew Miller wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 22, 2012, at 16:32, Gunnar Hellström wrote: /The US Access Board has the following definition in its latest proposal for Accessible procurement, Se

Re: [Standards] Comments on XEP-0301 -- Section 1 - TTY

Op 23/08/2012 00:32, Gunnar Hellström schreef: On 2012-08-23 00:05, Matthew Miller wrote: I do not see TTY as an acronym anymore. It is like BT that was read out British Telecom before, but is now just BT. Or AT&T was read out American Telephone and Telegraph, but is now just AT&T Wiktionary

Re: [Standards] Comments on XEP-0301 -- Section 1

tandard for all text phones. This machine was not available at Netherlands. We wait for first text telephone at 1988. Edward Tie On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote: agree You can say TTY was derived from Teletypewriter - a device originally used by people who a

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 0.5 comments [Sections 1 through 5]

BUT.. I think about different languages about chinese , thais. If you make wrong word. (invalid word), you need correct this word with back. Op 24/07/2012 17:31, Gregg Vanderheiden schreef: I agree the word by word is often brought up -- but never implemented. It make little sense to add

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text) -- candidate for LAST CALL

I missed some articles at Capther 8 8. Interoperability Considerations I missed some articles about Captional telephone (SMS) and classic text telephones (V.18 and V.22 bis) . Can you explain why do you not added a sub article about a gateway to classic textphones and Capatio

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text) - Odd strategies

Op 10/07/2012 17:32, Mark Rejhon schreef: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Gunnar Hellström mailto:gunnar.hellst...@omnitor.se>> wrote: Mark, I see that you in this version have introduced a couple of "odd" real-time text transmission strategies in sections 6.4.1 and 6.4.2, base

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 09/07/2012 17:05, Mark Rejhon schreef: I propose a shorter section added to Interoperability, since it is listed as one of the Requirements (TTY alternative) in Section 2, so it is very prudent that I expand on how it's accomplished, by adding this section to Interoperability: *8.3 TTY

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 09/07/2012 16:30, Gunnar Hellström schreef: On 2012-07-09 13:31, Edward Tie wrote: 8.3 Textphones and TTYs in the PSTN (Informational) Real-time text is also implemented in the PSTN, through various text telephone modulation protocols specified in ITU-T V.18 *or V.22 or 300 baud ASCII or

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 09/07/2012 13:12, Gunnar Hellström schreef: One sentence will be added to satisfy this. http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0301.html#interoperability_considerations To just simply mention that "...a gateway can be built as a part of a complete solution (i.e. with optional audio, such as to su

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 09/07/2012 11:40, Mark Rejhon schreef: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Edward Tie <mailto:fam...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: Hi Mark, I want to add on history of textphone and XMPP to old telephones that uses older protocols: Hello Edward, Good history -- however, this i

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Hi Mark, I want to add on history of textphone and XMPP to old telephones that uses older protocols: Protocols There are many different textphone standards. Baudot code The original standard used by TTYs is the Baudot code implemented as

Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 09/07/2012 06:10, Mark Rejhon schreef: On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Peter Saint-Andre > wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for working so diligently to incorporate the mass of feedback you received recently. Given the scope of the changes, you might want to

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- starting and stopping real-time text in a chat session.

Op 01/07/2012 01:07, Mark Rejhon schreef: On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Mark Rejhon > wrote: On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden mailto:g...@trace.wisc.edu>> wrote: but please also don't call messaging 'real time' because it

Re: [Standards] Accessibility (including XEP-0301)

Op 29/06/2012 16:36, Winfried Tilanus schreef: On 06/29/2012 04:00 PM, Edward Tie wrote: Hi, If you talk but you think what you have talk wrong..and you hear what you say.. It will be same for deaf peoples. First: I don't think we should regard RTT as an accessibility thing or a '

Re: [Standards] Accessibility (including XEP-0301)

Op 29/06/2012 15:58, Winfried Tilanus schreef: On 06/29/2012 03:41 PM, Edward Tie wrote: Hi, When he will think before he will talk to you... Is privacy issue when you must think before you will talk ? The privacy issue occurs because we are used to 'think aloud' while typing, rely

Re: [Standards] Accessibility (including XEP-0301)

Op 29/06/2012 15:20, Winfried Tilanus schreef: On 06/28/2012 01:45 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote: Hi, But, you know, aren't audio and video potential privacy issues too? Especially if used during the wrong times? It's no different. (In fact, often real-time text is more discreet at various times -

Re: [Standards] Concept animation of XEP-0301 -- for improved specification understanding

Op 29/06/2012 08:03, Mark Rejhon schreef: Re: XEP-0301 Real-Time Text I have created an easy-to-understand concept animation of XEP-0301 real-time text, from the perspective of a web-based chat system: http://www.realjabber.org/anim/facebook_chat_concept.gif Can you made full resolution incl.

Re: [Standards] Accessibility (including XEP-0301)

Op 28/06/2012 16:19, Simon McVittie schreef: On 28/06/12 13:44, Edward Tie wrote: Op 28/06/2012 14:18, Simon McVittie schreef: RTT and audio/video do have a significant technical difference: RTT is in-band, and audio/video (at least as implemented in Jingle) are out-of-band. I has disagree

Re: [Standards] Accessibility (including XEP-0301)

Op 28/06/2012 14:18, Simon McVittie schreef: On 28/06/12 05:22, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: I guess bandwidth-challedged XMPP networks should be fair and, if they want to block one real-tine conversation method, block them all. RTT and audio/video do have a significant technical difference: RTT is in-

Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 -- RFC about automatic mid-message resumption algorithms for RTT

Op 27/06/2012 10:59, Kevin Smith schreef: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mark Rejhon wrote: I used to have a number there a year ago. I was told it's not a good idea to define an arbitrary limit, so I don't think I should mention a specific value, except general wording that it should be suf

Re: [Standards] Comments Needed: Upgrading XEP-0301 to Draft. (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 23/06/2012 01:15, Edward Tie schreef: section 6.4.5 Any combination of audio, video, and real-time text MAY be used together simultaneously. It will be called to Total Conversation. Edward Tie Can you added : Total Conversation may use XEP-0266 audio^[12] <http://en.wikipedia.

Re: [Standards] Comments Needed: Upgrading XEP-0301 to Draft. (In-Band Real Time Text)

section 6.4.5 Any combination of audio, video, and real-time text MAY be used together simultaneously. It will be called to Total Conversation. Edward Tie

Re: [Standards] Comments Needed: Upgrading XEP-0301 to Draft. (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 22/06/2012 21:56, Mark Rejhon schreef: Short Version: *We want to upgrade XEP-0301 (Real Time Text) from "Experimental" Status to "Draft" Status. * *I'd like to hear your comments, edits for http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0301.html * *I've already notified Peter. I'd like everybody's co

Re: [Standards] Comments Needed: Upgrading XEP-0301 to Draft. (In-Band Real Time Text)

Op 22/06/2012 22:52, Peter Saint-Andre schreef: On 6/22/12 2:50 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote: The goal is: *Deadline June 28-29: Last corrections submitted (before the Last Call request)* Early July: Publishing of XEP-0301 version 0.3 Immediately After: Request a Last Call and begin the process OK, t