RE: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-04 Thread Shannon Wheatley
iated data object. So, explain to my why it should be packaged with J2EE 1.4? -Original Message- From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? I think a JCP for MVC, or even including Str

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-04 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I think a JCP for MVC, or even including Struts 1.1 in J2EE 1.4 JARs is a good idea. It's a proven best practice and most popular frame work. It does not help Struts, it help those who are not using Struts yet. .V Mete Kural wrote: Though, tight now, all the frameworks are still short of the mar

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-04 Thread Igor Shabalov
I prefer two separate standard frameworks – one for View (tag libraries etc.) and another for Controller. Igor Shabalov. http://www.exadel.com http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:21:24 +0100, Mete Kural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Th

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-04 Thread Igor Shabalov
zed and what is not. Craig is probably best to speak to this. Derek Richardson -Original Message- From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:29 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? > SunONE Application Framewo

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-04 Thread Mete Kural
> Though, tight now, all the frameworks are still short of the mark, > and we all have much to learn from each other. The best is yet to > come. With all that we have learned about web frameworks while developing and using frameworks like Struts, Maverick, Expresso, Turbine, SunONE, WebWork, an

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-04 Thread Ted Husted
One of the best things about the Java platform is that it's still a marketplace of ideas. Sun has provided us with a very useful and reliable servlet framework, and we can all develop various application frameworks over that. Struts, Maverick, JPublish, and the others all have their own strengt

RE: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Andrew Hill wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:57:51 +0800 > From: Andrew Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

RE: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread Andrew Hill
Isnt that what JSF is about to a large extent? -Original Message- From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 23:29 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? > SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- indeed, it aspires

RE: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread Mete Kural
Original Message- >> From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:29 AM >> To: Struts Users Mailing List >> Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? >> >> >> > SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- in

RE: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread Derek Richardson
gt; Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? > > > > SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- indeed, it aspires to > > provide additional functionality beyond what Struts supports > >(especially in the area of interfaces to model objects, and complex > > UI

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread Mete Kural
t; Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:19:23 -0800 (PST) > > >On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David Graham wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 12:06:12 -0700 >> From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David Graham wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 12:06:12 -0700 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? > > java.sun.c

Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??

2003-04-03 Thread David Graham
java.sun.com promotes useful Java tools but that doesn't mean it's the official Sun position. Craig works for Sun though so there is a connection. David From: "Mete Kural" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Is Sun promoting Struts?? Date: Thu,