This is exactly what happens as the JCP standardizes things, like with JSTL and JSF. But diversity is good to bring out the qualities of competing implementations until there is a clear winner. So perhaps we will see more functionality of the frameworks standardized in the future. But I am not knowledgeable enough to say what is ready to be standardized and what is not. Craig is probably best to speak to this.
Derek Richardson > -----Original Message----- > From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:29 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? > > > > SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- indeed, it aspires to > > provide additional functionality beyond what Struts supports > >(especially in the area of interfaces to model objects, and complex > > UI components), which make it quite suitable for building complex > > web-based applications. > > I think that it may be the best for everybody if there was a > common "base" web application framework that any company or > project could build upon to develop their own extensions. > Just like it is for IDE platforms like NetBeans "Platform" > and Eclipse "Platform", there could be a base platform that > everybody would rely on, and build on top of to develop their > own commercial products (SunONE Studio, WSAD, etc.) or open > source projects (NetBeans "IDE", Eclipse "IDE", etc.) Do you > think that such a scheme would work for application > frameworks just like it does for IDEs? > > Using this paradigm, it is possible to imagine a base > framework somthing like Struts Platform or whatever it may be > while everybody would have their extended frameworks based > upon. Sun could have its own extended framework and IBM could > have its own extended framework, and so on. > > I wonder what everybody's opinion on this matter is. > > -Mete > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:19:23 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > >On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David Graham wrote: > > > >> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 12:06:12 -0700 > >> From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts?? > >> > >> java.sun.com promotes useful Java tools but that doesn't > mean it's the > >> official Sun position. Craig works for Sun though so > there is a connection. > >> > > > >It is also true that Struts lives up to the "Best Practices" design > >patterns that are also linked from the same page (as do many other > >technologies and products that java.sun.com will link to from time to > >time). > > > >SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- indeed, it aspires to > >provide additional functionality beyond what Struts supports > (especially > >in the area of interfaces to model objects, and complex UI > components), > >which make it quite suitable for building complex web-based > applications. > > > >That being said, lots of Sun customers like and use Struts > as well, and > >Struts encourages good J2EE development practices; so of > course Sun will > >look at it in a positive light. But my work on Struts is on > my own time. > > > >> David > > > >Craig > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]