Isnt that what JSF is about to a large extent?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mete Kural [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 23:29
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??


> SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- indeed, it aspires to
> provide additional functionality beyond what Struts supports
>(especially in the area of interfaces to model objects, and complex
> UI components), which make it quite suitable for building complex
> web-based applications.

I think that it may be the best for everybody if there was a common "base"
web application framework that any company or project could build upon to
develop their own extensions. Just like it is for IDE platforms like
NetBeans "Platform" and Eclipse "Platform", there could be a base platform
that everybody would rely on, and build on top of to develop their own
commercial products (SunONE Studio, WSAD, etc.) or open source projects
(NetBeans "IDE", Eclipse "IDE", etc.) Do you think that such a scheme would
work for application frameworks just like it does for IDEs?

Using this paradigm, it is possible to imagine a base framework somthing
like Struts Platform or whatever it may be while everybody would have their
extended frameworks based upon. Sun could have its own extended framework
and IBM could have its own extended framework, and so on.

I wonder what everybody's opinion on this matter is.

-Mete

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:19:23 -0800 (PST)

>
>
>On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, David Graham wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 12:06:12 -0700
>> From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Is Sun promoting Struts??
>>
>> java.sun.com promotes useful Java tools but that doesn't mean it's the
>> official Sun position.  Craig works for Sun though so there is a
connection.
>>
>
>It is also true that Struts lives up to the "Best Practices" design
>patterns that are also linked from the same page (as do many other
>technologies and products that java.sun.com will link to from time to
>time).
>
>SunONE Application Framework is a fine tool -- indeed, it aspires to
>provide additional functionality beyond what Struts supports (especially
>in the area of interfaces to model objects, and complex UI components),
>which make it quite suitable for building complex web-based applications.
>
>That being said, lots of Sun customers like and use Struts as well, and
>Struts encourages good J2EE development practices; so of course Sun will
>look at it in a positive light.  But my work on Struts is on my own time.
>
>> David
>
>Craig
>
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