RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-24 Thread du Plessis, Corneil C
] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Since we're on the subject What kind of applications are being built using Struts? We're one of those big companies where many folks would rather roll our own. One of the defenses is that Struts was designed for web sites not servicing apps

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-24 Thread Andrew Hill
Hehe yeh. Gimme a Holden anyday ;-) Monaro v8 drool/ -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 24 January 2003 02:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Now if they could just make 1 decent car... David

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-24 Thread Greg.Reddin
it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Estimate the cost of doing it yourself and present the numbers to management

[OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread David Graham
Now if they could just make 1 decent car... David From: Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts officially supported at Ford Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:58:47 -0500 FYI … I

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Karr, David
It's certainly good that they're using 1.1, but somewhat unfortunate that they stopped at b2. There were numerous fixes put in after b2, including the entire Struts-EL contribution. Hopefully they can upgrade their support pretty quickly. -Original Message- From: Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)

Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Lepkowski
] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford It's certainly good that they're using 1.1, but somewhat unfortunate that they stopped at b2. (snip) -Original Message- From: Hajratwala, Nayan (N

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
- Chikli Consulting LLC - http://www.chikli.com -Original Message- From: Mark Lepkowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:17 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Struts officially supported at Ford I didn't read anything in the quote the mentioned v1.1b2

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Galbreath
IBM makes cars? -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:05 PM Now if they could just make 1 decent car... From: Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:58:47 -0500 The Ford Servlet Framework is a

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Pani, Gourav
about as much as Microsoft makes a legitimate operating system. ;) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:37 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford IBM makes cars

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Yes, AS/400 Cars...;) --- Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : IBM makes cars? -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:05 PM Now if they could just make 1 decent car... From: Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) [EMAIL

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Sterin, Ilya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford It's certainly good that they're using 1.1, but somewhat unfortunate that they stopped at b2. (snip) -Original Message- From

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
No, IBM doesn't make cars. They make computers. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Boudrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Yes, AS/400 Cars

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread James Mitchell
who cannot read them. - Mark Twain (1835-1910) -Original Message- From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:32 PM To: 'Mark Lepkowski '; 'Struts Users Mailing List ' Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Hmmm, great

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Joe Barefoot
Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford No, IBM doesn't make cars. They make computers. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Boudrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
Is that your real name? -Original Message- From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:57 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Mark, I believe your particular brand of flippant

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
://www.chikli.com -Original Message- From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:32 PM To: 'Mark Lepkowski '; 'Struts Users Mailing List ' Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Hmmm, great. I'm a consultant for Ford, they taken a clear Open Source

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Karr, David wrote: It's certainly good that they're using 1.1, but somewhat unfortunate that they stopped at b2. There were numerous fixes put in after b2, including the entire Struts-EL contribution. Hopefully they can upgrade their support pretty quickly. Don't

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread francis A
*** to be *n**r*pt companies. From: Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:01:14 -0500 Yes, my understanding

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread James Mitchell
A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what ford is not the big company which has deployed struts.I have worked in three project for past 15 months and all are big players

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread Chappell, Simon P
- From: francis A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what ford is not the big company which has deployed struts.I have worked in three project for past 15 months and all are big

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread James Turner
From: francis A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ford is not the big company which has deployed struts.I have worked in three project for past 15 months and all are big players in the industried today.And all the three company have deployed the app on websphere z/os(os/390-mainframe)which

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread Pani, Gourav
Simon, You need to get the BBC Micro-Powered El Cameno... Sorry, is it Friday yet??? -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:31 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread James Mitchell
: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:31 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what He sure doesn't sound like someone who drives a Ford! Simon 95 Ford Probe GT 24v and happy about it Chappell

[OT] RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread David Graham
Your message doesn't make any sense. David From: francis A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:04 -0500 ford is not the big company which has

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Galbreath
Don't they require drivers, too? -Original Message- From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:50 PM No, IBM doesn't make cars. They make computers. -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Boudrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Galbreath
There are those on the precipice, and then there are those in the abyss -Original Message- From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

RE: [OT] RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Galbreath
Up the dosage -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:28 PM Your message doesn't make any sense. From: francis A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19:04 -0500 ford is not the big company which has deployed

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
It was a real question. No offense :) -Dave -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:41 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford There are those on the precipice

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread francis A
you are correct just before meeting i have to type and hence typo... From: James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Chappell, Simon P
: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:49 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford It was a real question. No offense :) -Dave -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:41 PM

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread James Childers
Under Sharia law puns that bad are punishable by death. -= J -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Yes, that's his

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Chappell, Simon P
] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Under Sharia law puns that bad are punishable by death. -= J -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Pani, Gourav
Now is that specific case of death enforced by public stoning? -Original Message- From: James Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:54 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Under Sharia law puns

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Bredesen, Chris - NA US HQ Delray
Nope, tiling. -Original Message- From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Now is that specific case of death enforced by public stoning

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mike Oliver
: Struts officially supported at Ford Under Sharia law puns that bad are punishable by death. -= J -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Pani, Gourav
EE!!! Spin again. -Original Message- From: Mike Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:59 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Is that a Punjab? Michael Oliver AppsAsPeers LLC 7391 S

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Kevin . Bedell
) 01/23/2003 02:18 PM Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Please respond to Struts

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Galbreath
I never studied law. Joe just goes by Barefoot on this list. Elsewhere he's known as Joe Millionaire. Perhaps you've seen him on TV? Before he made his fortune as a Java developer, he cleaned septic tanks for a living. -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mark Galbreath
I don't do that anymore -Original Message- From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Now is that specific case of death enforced by public stoning

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mike Oliver
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Now is that specific case of death enforced by public stoning? -Original Message- From: James Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:54 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject

Struts at Lands' End, Inc. (was RE: Struts officially supported at Ford)

2003-01-23 Thread Chappell, Simon P
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford snip I'll bet anything this is not the last time we here

Re: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Robert McIntosh
LMAO!!! Friday has come early... Mark Galbreath wrote: I never studied law. Joe just goes by Barefoot on this list. Elsewhere he's known as Joe Millionaire. Perhaps you've seen him on TV? Before he made his fortune as a Java developer, he cleaned septic tanks for a living. -Original

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
Mailing List Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford I agree here - The typical big company response would've been to build their own custom framework from the ground up. The fact that they chose to start with Struts shows they put a good deal of thought

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mike Oliver
/Systems/USHO/SunLife) 01/23/2003 02:18 PM Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List On Thu, 23 Jan

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Mike Oliver
: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford I don't do that anymore -Original Message- From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford Now

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Sterin, Ilya
PM Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Yes, my understanding is that Solaris is out the door and Linux/Intel is in for new stuff. I believe that WebSphere 5.0 will only be deployed on Linux here, so teams that want to upgrade will have to migrate from Solaris -- Linux --- - Nayan

RE: [OT] RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what

2003-01-23 Thread Sterin, Ilya
] RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what Your message doesn't make any sense. David From: francis A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford--so what Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:19

RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Joe Barefoot
Yep. Jose Descalzo to my spanish-speaking friends. :) -Original Message- From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Struts officially supported at Ford

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Greg.Reddin
, but it would be nice to have some validations. Greg -Original Message- From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:35 PM To: 'Hajratwala, Nayan (N.) '; ''Struts Users Mailing List' ' Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford No, actually

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Karr, David
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Since we're on the subject What kind of applications are being built using Struts? We're one of those big companies where many folks

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread David Graham
] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:41:24 -0600 Since we're on the subject What kind of applications are being built using Struts? We're one of those big companies where many folks

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Greg.Reddin
Struts is a framework which facilitates the building of browser-based applications Oh, I totally agree. The service app concept was defined as needing to maintain state for multiple instances of business objects and respond to events, like a customer call in a call center app, working a

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Greg.Reddin
Estimate the cost of doing it yourself and present the numbers to management. The problem is we've already got one, you see... However, it pretty much sucks compared to Struts and would cost millions of dollars just to get it where Struts is right now -- and we'd never really get it to

RE: Struts officially supported at Ford

2003-01-23 Thread Joe Barefoot
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Estimate the cost of doing it yourself and present the numbers to management. The problem is we've already got one, you see... However