Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse fail to access maps.google.com

2010-11-17 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Wed Nov 17 01:36:05 +0100 2010: The activity is failing while executing the javascript on the web page. I've attached the log to a new ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2492 As explained on the ticket, the bug is in some other component

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Abente
Hello again, (At this point I guess I have like 3 threads about this topic, so I better stick to one, Sorry if there was any confusion) Any ways, last night Gary and I had a very productive chat about the Look and Feel of this feature. In my first proposal [1], the notification icons (w/

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, [snip] So far, I think this is the best idea we got :), but I guess it is important to have the approval of other members, So please everyone take a look at [3] and give us some feedback before

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Abente
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, [snip] So far, I think this is the best idea we got :), but I guess it is important to have the approval of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Anish Mangal
* On top of ui changes, would it also make sense to play some 'notification' sounds as well? The HIG doesn't say anything about sounds AFAIK * Or flashing an icon or doing 'something' with the UI exactly when the notification occurs. * Also, what about conditionally (based on importance,

[Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Daniel Castelo
We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Daniel Castelo
Maybe we could group all the notifications that are repeated. Journal is Full... (X 3) Other Warning.. Other Warning (X2). Could be useful show the date of the problem in the case of historical warnings. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Anish Mangal anishmangal2...@gmail.comwrote: * On top

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
What image are you using? What version of olpc-kbdshim? Gonzalo On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/17/2010 05:37 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: * Why the user should start an activity to know what is happening? Why/when does the user want to know what's happening? Users are busy doing something interesting... We should interrupt/hassle the user never.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Abente
Just to clarify, this feature is not intended to replace the log. (apparently some people got the wrong idea) It is needed in many scenarios, as a general mechanism to communicate important events to the user, that until now (and already) we have been re-inventing the wheel every time we wanted

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: * Why the user should start an activity to know what is happening? Why/when does the user want to know what's happening? Users

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: This patch has a place in Dextrose.  Dextrose is looking at the question, How can we provide support staff the necessary information to effectively fix and/or report problems to a higher level of service and support?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Daniel Castelo
Thanks for the information! I've tested the build 351. I realize that the Directional Pad change the Behaviour when the screen rotate. Great! However, in the Read Activity the Directional Pad is useful for go forward line per line, but if you want to change the page you have to use the Game

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It was a design decision (at least initially) to not rotate the Game Buttons, as users might associate their symbols (square, circle, etc.) to mean certain things. If there is a compelling reason to do this perhaps it should be revisited. I admit that this does not work well for all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
In the Read activity in the build 353, the game key X and O keys do PageUp Page Down and the square and and check keys do zoom in / out. Gonzalo On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Thanks for the information! I've tested the build 351. I realize

[Sugar-devel] access to the FTP

2010-11-17 Thread Walter Bender
-- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Cerdas Mendez daniel.cer...@fod.ac.cr Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM Subject: Omar Dengo Foundation Costa Rica To: wal...@sugarlabs.org wal...@sugarlabs.org Dear Walter, It’s a pleasure to write you again, I’m Daniel Cerdas Mendez and I

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2010-11-17

2010-11-17 Thread Walter Bender
==Sugar Digest== 1. The Oversight Board election is underway. We have a very strong candidate list that spans the breadth of the community. You should have received a ballot by email. Please vote before 29 November. If you registered to vote and for some reason you did not receive a ballot,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Abente
Change the want for need and we have: When there is something they _need_ to know And that is exactly the same reason why we are already using the Icon notifications and the same reason why we are already using Alert widgets all over sugar (outside activities), and there are still more cases

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse fail to access maps.google.com

2010-11-17 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:59:12AM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: As explained on the ticket, the bug is in some other component (probably python-xpcom), not Browse. I'm leaving the ticket open because it affects Browse pretty badly (risk of data loss), Session data loss, I presume? Not a biggy,

Re: [Sugar-devel] access to the FTP

2010-11-17 Thread James Cameron
/usr/bin/ftp is included in OLPC OS 10.1.2 and can be used, at a pinch, in Terminal. It can be scripted. If connectivity with Journal is required, there is greater complexity, because Journal does not provide a filesystem view expected by /usr/bin/ftp. copy-from-journal might then be needed.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Messages notification

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Martin, On 17 Nov 2010, at 19:17, Martin Abente wrote: Change the want for need and we have: When there is something they _need_ to know And that is exactly the same reason why we are already using the Icon notifications and the same reason why we are already using Alert widgets