Re: [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:48:39PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Hello everybody, This afternoon, I had an interesting conversation with a Montessori teacher, about Speak. She asked me why Speak says a when a is pressed and not the *sound* of the letter a. Montessori teachers teach the shape

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 03:47:23PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 03:42, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, At the end Journal Plugins mutated to Frame Panles feature. All UI visible changes I wanted to implement in plugins could be done via Frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 01:34:38PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, At the end Journal Plugins mutated to Frame Panles feature. All UI visible changes I wanted to implement in plugins could be done via Frame

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:19:51PM -0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:25, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Aleksey Lim wrote: So, I have strong intension to switching development focus from core team, which develops sucrose - glucose(core

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
purposes so, users on any distro can install last development release of sugar by trivial gestures - copy past 0install url and click OK Icarito 2009/12/14 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 17:01, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Future of Zero Sugar

2009-12-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Aleksey Lim wrote: So, I have strong intension to switching development focus from core team, which develops sucrose - glucose(core) and fructose(some core activities) to wide range of developers/doers thus some kind

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:31:43PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 01:48:19PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for standalone 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module

Re: [Sugar-devel] File Share Activity

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 06:28:40PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Justin, On 12 Dec 2009, at 16:17, Justin Lewis wrote: I am not the author of Bundle. If people would like to test it, fine by me. This was written mainly to get some sort of file transfer system on the olpc. Another

Re: [Sugar-devel] File Share Activity

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
..and making my thoughts more clear :) On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 06:28:40PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: 2). As a separate activity it can be developed out side of the Sucrose development/release cycle and team. that was another reason for Plugins proposal(now Shell Integration API) 3) As a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
Wade, could you prepare shell agnostic code, it could be utilized in saccharin to report problems while downloading/compiling, so having the same UI would be useful. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 08:47:05PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hi all, Here is my feature proposal for Sugar Problem Reports.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] Problem Reports

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 02:43:57AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Wade, could you prepare shell agnostic code, it could be utilized in saccharin to report problems while downloading/compiling, so having the same UI would be useful. btw that could be another point for Shell UI Integration proposal

Re: [Sugar-devel] create new Sugar SIG group on google groups or lists.sugarlabs.org?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:31:53AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: It is time for me to create a mailing list for the Karma SIG. I would prefer to use a google group over using the mailman lists because is it easier to search the google group. What are the pros of using mailman (

Re: [Sugar-devel] create new Sugar SIG group on google groups or lists.sugarlabs.org?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 02:52:05AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 08:31:53AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: It is time for me to create a mailing list for the Karma SIG. I would prefer to use a google group over using the mailman lists because is it easier to search the google

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Frame Panels

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, At the end Journal Plugins mutated to Frame Panles feature. All UI visible changes I wanted to implement in plugins could be done via Frame Panle components(the rest of code are shell agnostic). Frame Panles feature has the same major idea, social context - giving non core developers

Re: [Sugar-devel] Installing ASLO

2009-12-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:02:45PM -0200, Javier Valenzani wrote: I'm trying to install an instance of ASLO following this guide at the Wiki (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Devel/Installing#Install_server). I've installed all packages, configured Apache, MySql, clone the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Feature] activity.info enhancements

2009-12-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:43:56PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: Summary: It would facilitate the packaging of Sugar activities into RPMs and DEBs if there were additional information available in the activity.info file. Details: In walking the process of creating an RPM of one of my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Scrollbar width

2009-12-10 Thread Aleksey Lim
mentioned CartoonBuilder's code, affects only to current process (FWIW, I'm really surprised that gtk.Scrollbar doesn't allow for varying scrollbar width.) Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org To: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu Cc: sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:05:30AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/07/2009 01:09 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:57:01AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/07/2009 05:58 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: The core idea of plugins is exactly to avoid situation when we have

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Google result displays Mozilla description

2009-12-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 11:37:18AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:55:47PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: Activities for Sugar Customize Firefox, Thunderbird, and other Mozilla products with thousands of free extensions and themes. activities.sugarlabs.org/ - the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:57:01AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 12/07/2009 05:58 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: On 6 Dec 2009, at 21:19, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/11/27 Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:01:16PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:09:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Sorry I didn't enter into the other discussions about your features yet; I'm having quite a hard time understanding most of what you write. Would be nice if you

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:24:14PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:01:16PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:09:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Sorry I didn't enter into the other discussions about your features yet; I'm having quite a hard

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] TableView Widget request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 02:37:07PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/28/2009 05:00 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Hi Aleksey, thanks for proposing this feature! http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/TableView_Widget GTK widget to replace gtk.TreeView in Journal. Benefit

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-12-06 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:56:09PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: On 6 Dec 2009, at 21:19, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/11/27 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:13:55AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Actions request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, I've created a stub feature page[1] for actions metaphor. Could someone, who are original initiators(or have ideas) of this feature, tweak wiki page to cover all workflows that they have in mind for Actions in Journal. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Actions -- Aleksey

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, This post is not about particular feature but about proposed to 0.88 features that can be composited to one set. Some of them could be implemented in 0.88 partially, some are invasive, some not. We lost possibility to push several such features in 0.86 and we have a chance to do it once

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Journal Reload a new attempt

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
(oops, wrong subject) Hi all, This post is not about particular feature but about proposed to 0.88 features that can be composited to one set. Some of them could be implemented in 0.88 partially, some are invasive, some not. We lost possibility to push several such features in 0.86 and we have

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Journal Reload a new attempt

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
..to continue summarising.. In fact, all proposed features are not about increasing complexity but about decreasing for floor level - user all time works with sugar objects(activities, activity objects, foreign object etc) but from different views. And let developers/deployments/teachers

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-12-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 04:38:56PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 21:24, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 30.11.2009, at 20:02, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-12-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle, we

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.87.1

2009-12-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.87.1.tar.bz2 == News == * Make reading version file more robust (sayamindu) #1562 * Use gobject_timeout_add_seconds to make power usage more efficient (sayamindu) #1567

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] [REQUEST] Etoys-113

2009-12-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:08:10PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 21:05, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:54:26PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 01.12.2009, at 20:42, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:34:35PM -0600, dfarn...@sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] sharing question

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 08:35:42AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: I have a new activity (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4246) to which I am about to add sharing. It will hat be pretty straight forward in terms of simply exchanging game state and mouse clicks, but I want to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:34:45PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:54:49PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:34:45PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 22:16 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:50:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged, Sugar Platform should be enhanced to include build tools (autocrap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 03:10:29PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:50:59PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:00 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 29.11.2009, at 20:50, Simon Schampijer wrote: Well, if an activity will work for an older release is not only determined by the activity version number. For example,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] aslo - CDN

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:17:20PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: [cc += sugar-de...@] On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 08:44 -0600, dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Many people have access to the upload directory. We could mitigate this by using separate groups. We already use a soas group for soas.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:58:57PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/11/30 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: I disagree that showing activities in the Journal, in addition to activity instances and MIME objects, will cause confusion.  Many activities are more like content.  Activities can be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 07:18:47PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/11/30 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: This isn't quite accurate. We've been adding some pre-loaded content to the Journal for quite some time now,

[Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

2009-11-30 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one place. So, the question is will html page which lists all ASLO activities in microformat enough for OLPC updater. -- Aleksey

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications (was: Re: [Debian-olpc-devel] Missing deps for sucrose-0.86.)

2009-11-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:02:15PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Once 0install support gets merged, Sugar Platform should be enhanced to include build tools (autocrap, c(++) compiler, ...); in that case, activity authors can also

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:16:30PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.11.2009, at 17:16, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-28 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:08:53PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.11.2009, at 17:16, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] Examples in Journal (#1585)

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 02:57:01PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: From: Sugar Labs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: #1585 UNSP: need some way to present examples to other activities Cc: b...@lists.sugarlabs.org Reply-To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:13:55AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins# [2] http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Examples in Journal (#1585)

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:23:02PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 02:57:57PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: IMO examples belong into the Journal as much (or as few, depending on your POV) as activity bundles belong there. Maybe we should hide them in the default

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] [DESIGN] Zero Install integresion request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Zero_Install_integration The reason for this feature is to cover situations * an activity has dependencies that weren't included to the Sugar * Platform * install/build activity specific binaries * run non-sugar applications that are not well

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Sugar_Bundles One file format to transfer various types of content in/out to/from sugar environment with keeping metadata. In fact, this feature is an end users oriented(technically we not invent super format for various types of content, just

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: It seems time to think about the next _big_ technical issue for growing Sugar Labs. Clearly articulating the Sugar Stack. For the last year or so, we have been circling the issue with talk of stable APIs, Glucose, Fructose, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] The sugar stack

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 05:56:42PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:55:20AM -0600, David Farning wrote: Many of the discussion about this have stalled because of confusion over what aspect the stack we are trying to define. As a starting point, I would suggest: 1

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Sugar Bundles request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:40:00PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Out of sugar environment, users know that there is only one type of sugar objects and only thing they should do to activate them is uploading .xo file to Journal

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, While preparing new 0.88 features, I encountered some in consistence in activities vs. activity bundles case, so I'm going to reveal Activity as regular objects(see [1] ml thread) feature but make it less invasive in case existed user experience.

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] TableView Widget request for inclusion to 0.88

2009-11-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/TableView_Widget GTK widget to replace gtk.TreeView in Journal. Benefit to Sugar Standard gtk components are not designed to be lazy. Third party widgets, I managed to find, uses scheme with renders(like gtk components), introduced component uses

[Sugar-devel] Record rewrite -- was Re: [SoaS] SoaS v2 approaching RC state

2009-11-26 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:25:12AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:51:55PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi all, with the next SoaS release coming up really soon (final image

Re: [Sugar-devel] Ooo4Kids in several languages - how to let it appear on aslo?

2009-11-26 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:37:31AM +, Carlo Falciola wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:48, Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Bastien, On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:27, Bastien bastienguerry at googlemail.com wrote: Dear all, I just uploaded Ooo4Kids 0.5.1 on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Record rewrite -- was Re: [SoaS] SoaS v2 approaching RC state

2009-11-26 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 02:49:31PM -0800, Peter Robinson wrote: On 11/26/09, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:25:12AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:51:55PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sebastian

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] for Journal Plugins feature

2009-11-26 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1] and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved in this feature. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins# [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins#UI_changes --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Zero-install-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-25 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:27:57AM +, Thomas Leonard wrote: 2009/11/24 Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org: [...] I've just tried simple example[1] with simple feed[2] in system w/o any 0install remains and it fails for the first time[3] but runs ok for 2nd. I missed something

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:20:15PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, as a follow up on an older thread: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-October/019939.html - we want to get the versioning sorted in 0.88 for real. So far we came up with these three options: a) The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning - Dotted Scheme

2009-11-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:21:09PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 11/24/2009 01:42 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Simon, On 24 Nov 2009, at 11:20, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, as a follow up on an older thread: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-October/019939.html

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fructose - What is it? What should it be?

2009-11-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:57:16PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, this came up several times now. People where wondering what Fructose is. From the definition it is: The Sugar developers will need some example set of activities with which to demonstrate Sugar. This set is Fructose.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Zero-install-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:20:27PM +, Thomas Leonard wrote: 2009/11/24 Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org: Aleksey wrote: To have some implementation mockups for next 0install debates, I've coded how(I'm thinking) 0install integration could be implemented in sugar[1]. To check existed

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS v2 approaching RC state

2009-11-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:51:55PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi all, with the next SoaS release coming up really soon (final image is supposed to be composed this weekend, release date is Dec 8), there's a

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 03:01:07PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: Aleksey wrote: To have some implementation mockups for next 0install debates, I've coded how(I'm thinking) 0install integration could be implemented in sugar[1]. To check existed code, pull sugar and sugar-toolkit cloned

[Sugar-devel] Non sugar activities on ASLO

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Non sugar activities we (could)have on ASLO: ++ programs with high sugar integration(journal etc.) + programs that start smooth in sugar environment(sugarised screen mode etc.) - programs that are just absent in GNU/Linux distributions -- programs that present in GNU/Linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non sugar activities on ASLO

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:23:22PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Non sugar activities we (could)have on ASLO: ++ programs with high sugar integration(journal etc.) + programs that start smooth in sugar environment(sugarised screen mode etc.) btw sugarizing programs only by fixing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non sugar activities on ASLO

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:59:44PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 17:30, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:23:22PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Non sugar activities we (could)have on ASLO: ++  programs with high sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non sugar activities on ASLO

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:03:24PM -0600, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 17:30, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:23:22PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Non

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:51:27AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, To have some implementation mockups for next 0install debates, I've coded how(I'm thinking) 0install integration could be implemented in sugar[1]. To check existed code, pull sugar and sugar-toolkit cloned repos[2

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:39:14PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've changed this feature a bit, so now its a Zero Install integration[4] Good to see progress on this. Much appreciated. Some questions... - Why

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:06:19PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 23 Nov 2009, at 18:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:39:14PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: I've changed

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:05:21PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:  - Why is the depcheck happening at first start time? Install time seems be more appropriate: install time means there is a src of software, needed

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:22:23PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:06:19PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: Example: Teacher travels from a remote village to an education ministry or town with internet access once a month. Downloads a selection of new activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:00:49PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:22:23PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 07:06:19PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: Example: Teacher travels from a remote village to an education ministry or town with internet access

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non sugar activities on ASLO

2009-11-23 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:46:52PM -0600, Jim Simmons wrote: Aleksey, It would be helpful to have a way to distribute things like the gstreamer espeak plugin you wrote. Fedora doesn't currently include it. It would be even better if you could distribute versions that work on the XO

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] sugar-datastore sucrose-0.86 branch

2009-11-19 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, sugar-datastore was branced for 0.86 bug fixes, master branch is open for 0.88 commits. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release GCompris Additional Content-12

2009-11-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 06:06:05AM -0500, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4090 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26359/gcompriscontent-12.xo Release notes: * GCompris 8.4.13

Re: [Sugar-devel] Discrepancy regarding an Activity

2009-11-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 01:47:08PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: By comparison, Debian have little technical protection against uploading evil code, but have a social mechanism of only allowing official members to upload (combined with requiring a large effort to become official member). I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] New aslo@ mailing list

2009-11-15 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:33:10PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, To ease Activity Library editors coordination, ASLO will send all kinds of review requests to new mailing list a...@lists.sugarlabs.org. So, any editor(and not only editrs) can subsribe to this list and be informed of all

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:10:11PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 06:51, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, To have some implementation mockups for next 0install debates, I've coded how(I'm thinking) 0install integration could be implemented in sugar[1

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] New aslo@ mailing list

2009-11-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, To ease Activity Library editors coordination, ASLO will send all kinds of review requests to new mailing list a...@lists.sugarlabs.org. So, any editor(and not only editrs) can subsribe to this list and be informed of all reviews threads. Broadcast editor notifications were removed since

[Sugar-devel] 0depend feature request

2009-11-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, To have some implementation mockups for next 0install debates, I've coded how(I'm thinking) 0install integration could be implemented in sugar[1]. To check existed code, pull sugar and sugar-toolkit cloned repos[2] and follow simple test case[3]. [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Submitting New Activities

2009-11-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:18:21PM -0500, Art Hunkins wrote: All is good now. Prior to this evening, Our Music MC was not showing up as an activity for me. (I appreciate David having uploaded both activities, and am sorry the MC version was late appearing.) Now it is here, and I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] is csound-python part of the Sugar Platform?

2009-11-03 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:35:12AM +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.84/Platform_Components doesn't make it clear. Is csound-python part of the Sugar platform? In my mind its wasn't part of SP-0.84, we didn't have activities (at least on ASLO) that use python

Re: [Sugar-devel] Submitting New Activities

2009-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:31:45AM -0500, Art Hunkins wrote: Attached are the two .xo bundles. BTW, I created them manually - not with the help of setup.py. Yeah, that was the problem, valid .xo bundles should contain directory w/ activity name on top of files hierarchy, anyway the best

Re: [Sugar-devel] Submitting New Activities

2009-11-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 08:36:51PM -0500, Art Hunkins wrote: Aleksey, I made the change you suggested, as in the attached .xo. I still was unable to upload, receiving the same message error on page. The error log is not at all helpful; I uploaded in Win XP, and the message you indicated

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Activity Library v4

2009-10-31 Thread Aleksey Lim
== News == * rebase to last AMO code base * new sugar theme == News for users == * revert fast link to global statistics http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/statistics (click on activities downloaded at the right top corner on main page) * bar with links to common sugar resources at the

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO testing

2009-10-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 01:42:50PM -0700, Josh Williams wrote: If you have a minute please test: http://activities-testing.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/ Bugs fixed since last round of testing: 1. # of Activities downloaded number added 2. Fixed pagination for long search results 3.

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO testing

2009-10-27 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 01:42:50PM -0700, Josh Williams wrote: If you have a minute please test: http://activities-testing.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/ Bugs fixed since last round of testing: 1. # of Activities downloaded number added 2. Fixed pagination for long search results 3.

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO updates

2009-10-24 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 03:30:08PM -0700, Josh Williams wrote: Updates have been made to ASLO, I'm sure there are display bugs floating around because a lot of the code was changed. Please take a few minutes to test it out: http://activities-testing.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/ If you're

Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize 33 is buggy - what should I do?

2009-10-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 09:12:24AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:38:03PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: I doubt this is a SoaS only problem but I haven't tested it on an XO Tickets - 1055 I'm going to test Memorize in last soas2(12-Oct-2009) #1055 is about

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.86.3

2009-10-20 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.86.3.tar.bz2 == News == * Sporadic freezes while scrolling journal #1506 * Suppress race condition with Journal appearing on sugar startup #1373 * Alt+Space not working to show/hide the tray #1476

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.86.2

2009-10-20 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.86.2.tar.bz2 == News == * Do not stop processing motion-notify-event #1507 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Memorize 33 is buggy - what should I do?

2009-10-16 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:38:03PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: I doubt this is a SoaS only problem but I haven't tested it on an XO Tickets - 1055 I'm going to test Memorize in last soas2(12-Oct-2009) #1055 is about pulseaudio issue, maybe in last soas it will be better , 1503 1503 is a

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