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RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Richard Pauli
Andrew, Wanted to make sure you got this email that I sent to the list. Richard = Robert, John, Willy, and All, Using a satellite dish as a sundial is a great idea. And a fully functioning dish with hour markings could work as a satellite re-aiming tool - Since a working

RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Richard Pauli
Robert, John, Willy, and All, Using a satellite dish as a sundial is a great idea. And a fully functioning dish with hour markings could work as a satellite re-aiming tool - Since a working dish that is locked into place and then marked with hour lines could be used to re-aim the dish aft

RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Simon \[illustratingshadows
John yes, the polar axis aligned style would generate the dial center and thusly the hour lines. Heck I did that with one of my large wall dials where the wall was an irregular surface. Duh. Good to know I am not the only one not thinking well today:) Simon --- John Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Robert Terwilliger
This reference strays a bit from the topic, but this chap has a method (and a program for sale) which will aim a dish at a satellite using a quasi-sundial approach. http://www.sundialsetup.com/ Also John Davis made what I believe was a decliner recliner from a satellite dish. Perhaps he will ch

RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread John Carmichael
Hi Simon: Thanks for confirming that the empirical method autocorrects for longitude shift. You wrote: However, unless I am more than usually dense today, it provides hour points for a given declination, not hour lines. I think that if the gnomon is a polar axis rod (not a perpendicular one)or i

RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread John Carmichael
Dear Willy I’m not sure I agree with you. I think the empirical method automaticly corrects for the longitude shift. If you mark the shadow’s location using a watch on a day when the EOT is zero, then the longitude correction is there. The sundial will be marking watch time when the EOT is ze

Re: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Simon \[illustratingshadows
John's method does mark legal time and thus does consider longitude. However, unless I am more than usually dense today, it provides hour points for a given declination, not hour lines. However, it has been a long day, so I may simply be denser than usual:) Simon --- Willy Leenders <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Willy Leenders
Hi John, Using your empirical method, not only the equation of time must be zero, you have to take in account the correction for longitude. Willy Leenders Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium) Op 21-jun-07, om 21:24 heeft John Carmichael het volgende geschreven: Hello Andrew: There is an easy w

Re: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Douglas Bateman
Dear Andrew, Many satellite dishes are made from perforated metal sheet. Is yours similarly partially transparent? If so, a basic vertical dial can be drawn on a flat sheet (declining if necessary) and then sight through the dish onto the flat sheet and transfer the hour lines by eye 'forward

RE: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread John Carmichael
Hello Andrew: There is an easy way to mark the hourlines on a satellite dish or any surface for that matter, without using any formulas or math. Use what some call the “empirical method”. This method is useful for oddly shaped surfaces. 1. Position the dish in the direction that you want

Re: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread dbell
While Willy is absolutely correct, the part about knowing and computing for the shape of the dish is probably the real killer task. This is an application where I would advocate the empirical approach: Properly orient the dial face and style, then manually lay out points, with a watch in hand. Pla

Re: Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Willy Leenders
Hi Andrew, you have to orient the disc to the south you have to decline the disc to a vertical position on a vertical and south oriented plane behind the disc you have to work out (virtually) the hour lines and date lines of a vertical south oriented nodal sundial - the node must be a part of

Direct South Dial

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew Corl
Greetings all, Several months ago I bought a house and the previous owners left me with one of those 12" diameter satellite dishes. I have no need or want of Direct TV or satellite TV. I was sitting there thinking one day that it would make a really nice direct south facing sundial.