[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:55:55PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 20 Sep 2005, at 14:08, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > >>On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative i

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 20 Sep 2005, at 14:08, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: >> On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is "clusters of isolated dark nodes", which is worse? >>> >>>

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > > On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >>Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is > >>"clusters of isolated dark nodes", which is worse? > >> > > > >There would be no real reason to grow the darkn

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:12:40AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > >> On 20 Sep 2005, at 10:56, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> >>> >>> Which reduces "globally scalable darknet" to "clusters of dark nodes >>> hanging off the opennet". >>> >> >> Well, if t

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:12:40AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 20 Sep 2005, at 10:56, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > >Which reduces "globally scalable darknet" to "clusters of dark nodes > >hanging off the opennet". > > Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is > "cluste

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 20 Sep 2005, at 10:56, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 10:55:12AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > >> On 19 Sep 2005, at 16:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> >>> It is IMHO strategically vital that we can test the network as a >>> pure >>> darknet. We will need an opennet as well, bec

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 10:55:12AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 19 Sep 2005, at 16:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >It is IMHO strategically vital that we can test the network as a pure > >darknet. We will need an opennet as well, because we need to have > >something for people to download from free

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 19 Sep 2005, at 16:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: > It is IMHO strategically vital that we can test the network as a pure > darknet. We will need an opennet as well, because we need to have > something for people to download from freenetproject.org. I see no reason for there to be a separate openn

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:55:55PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 20 Sep 2005, at 14:08, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > >>On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative i

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 20 Sep 2005, at 14:08, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is "clusters of isolated dark nodes", which is worse? There would be n

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58:44PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > > On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >>Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is > >>"clusters of isolated dark nodes", which is worse? > >> > > > >There would be no real reason to grow the darkn

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:33, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:12:40AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: On 20 Sep 2005, at 10:56, Matthew Toseland wrote: Which reduces "globally scalable darknet" to "clusters of dark nodes hanging off the opennet". Well, if that would truly be the

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:12:40AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 20 Sep 2005, at 10:56, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > >Which reduces "globally scalable darknet" to "clusters of dark nodes > >hanging off the opennet". > > Well, if that would truly be the topology then the alternative is > "cluste

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 20 Sep 2005, at 10:56, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 10:55:12AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: On 19 Sep 2005, at 16:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: It is IMHO strategically vital that we can test the network as a pure darknet. We will need an opennet as well, because we need to

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 10:55:12AM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > On 19 Sep 2005, at 16:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >It is IMHO strategically vital that we can test the network as a pure > >darknet. We will need an opennet as well, because we need to have > >something for people to download from free

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On 19 Sep 2005, at 16:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: It is IMHO strategically vital that we can test the network as a pure darknet. We will need an opennet as well, because we need to have something for people to download from freenetproject.org. I see no reason for there to be a separate opennet

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-20 Thread remailer
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:52:44PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: >> Matthew Toseland a ?crit : >> >> >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wr

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 07:37:27PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > > >My understanding is that the french crypto regulations were abandoned > >some time ago. > > That law is just a project (no decree yet). For the moment, we're still > limited to 128b. That's bizarre

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread Julien Cornuwel
Matthew Toseland a ?crit : >My understanding is that the french crypto regulations were abandoned >some time ago. > > That law is just a project (no decree yet). For the moment, we're still limited to 128b. >Make your own darknet. :) >Then come to Bristol, take me out for a pizza, and I'll con

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:52:44PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > > >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > > > >As far as the above goes, please read the responses to the other post. > > I did. So you confirm my understanding ? 99% of cur

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 07:37:27PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > > >My understanding is that the french crypto regulations were abandoned > >some time ago. > > That law is just a project (no decree yet). For the moment, we're still > limited to 128b. That's bizarre

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread remai...@invalid.com
-BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext In <20050919155428.GD18971 at amphibian.dyndns.org> Matthew Toseland wrote: >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:52:44PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: >> Matthew Toseland a ?crit : >> >> >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien C

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread Julien Cornuwel
Matthew Toseland a écrit : >My understanding is that the french crypto regulations were abandoned >some time ago. > > That law is just a project (no decree yet). For the moment, we're still limited to 128b. >Make your own darknet. :) >Then come to Bristol, take me out for a pizza, and I'll con

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-19 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:52:44PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > > >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > > > >As far as the above goes, please read the responses to the other post. > > I did. So you confirm my understanding ? 99% of cur

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-17 Thread Julien Cornuwel
Matthew Toseland a ?crit : >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > > >>Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you >>a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. >> >>We all know each others only by Freenet and it is sa

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-17 Thread Julien Cornuwel
Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. We all know each others only by Freenet and it is said that it isn't enough to form a darknet together, correct ? So we'll have to stay on the opennet which is

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you > a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. > > We all know each others only by Freenet and it is said that it isn't > enough to form a

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-17 Thread Julien Cornuwel
Matthew Toseland a écrit : >On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > > >>Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you >>a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. >> >>We all know each others only by Freenet and it is sa

Re: [freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you > a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. > > We all know each others only by Freenet and it is said that it isn't > enough to form a

[freenet-support] Integration in 0.7

2005-09-17 Thread Julien Cornuwel
Following the post named "Hypothetical question", I'd like to expose you a practical case : the French community. Stop me when I'm wrong. We all know each others only by Freenet and it is said that it isn't enough to form a darknet together, correct ? So we'll have to stay on the opennet which is