Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

PhillipJones wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: PhillipJones schrieb: The original post meant SeaMonkey. It didn't. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on. That is just a different numbering system, the rate an

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rufus wrote: *This* surprises the crap out of me though, considering some of what I've read here elsewhere - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/ ...and you get it via the Apple App Store. Off topic for this NG, *but* Firefox Home is *not* Firefox for iPhone, it is basically "Weave"/"Firefox

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: PhillipJones schrieb: The original post meant SeaMonkey. It didn't. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on. That is just a different numbering system, the rate and size of updates is

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: PhillipJones schrieb: The original post meant SeaMonkey. It didn't. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on. That is just a different numbering system, the rate and size of updates is very similar.

Re: new 2.3

Graham wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Right, that's why the major change the web brought to computers was never appreciated by users, the major change that Firefox brought compared to Internet Explorer was never appreciated by users, and why the major change that smartphones and mobile devices are

Re: new 2.3

WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for b

Re: new 2.3

Robert Kaiser wrote: Right, that's why the major change the web brought to computers was never appreciated by users, the major change that Firefox brought compared to Internet Explorer was never appreciated by users, and why the major change that smartphones and mobile devices are bringing to liv

Re: Tried using Data Manager

On 8/6/2011 9:22 PM, Stan wrote: So, I deleted cookies, popups, etc. What did you do to delete these, by my reading it sounds as though you deleted them some way, THEN went to use the data manager for teh first time; which sounds as if you did the deletion another way. -- ~Justin Wood (Call

Re: new 2.3

WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for b

Re: new 2.3

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for business use. I can dig out the link for anyone who hasn'

Tried using Data Manager

I thought I'd be real sophisticated using SM. So, I deleted cookies, popups, etc. and decided I'd use Data Manager to set these items as a couple of my often used applications called for them. Well, I didn't quite understand the exact procedure for using Data Manager. BUT, the biggy was that v

Re: new 2.3

MCBastos schrieb: 1. Users overwhelmed by all the new features, who ended up not even *trying* 90% of them. Classic example: Microsoft Office. Or Firefox 4. ;-) Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as fo

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 06/08/2011 16:57, Ray_Net told the world: > I agree to "start for the future" but people need less steps to go to > the future ... not a change every six weeks. I disagree. Small, incremental steps are easier to get used to. If you get one new feature at a time, you have si

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Interviewed by CNN on 06/08/2011 20:07, Robert Kaiser told the world: > Version numbers in software are just like coordinate systems in physics: > But necessarily and irrelevant. They're necessary as a reference system > but it's completely irrelevant and arbitrary how you set them. I agree. At

Re: new 2.3

Ray_Net wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for business use.

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: PhillipJones schrieb: The original post meant SeaMonkey. It didn't. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on. That is just a different numbering system, the rate and size of updates is very similar.

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

PhillipJones schrieb: The original post meant SeaMonkey. It didn't. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on. That is just a different numbering system, the rate and size of updates is very similar. Version numbers in

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: Joe Rotello schrieb: Firefox updates This is a SeaMonkey newsgroup, please take Firefox discussions to a Firefox group. Robert Kaiser The original post meant SeaMonkey. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.

Re: new 2.3

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb: Unfortunately, from a user perspective, major change is rarely welcome, whilst increased security and incremental bug fixes are universally appreciated. Right, that's why the major change the web brought to computers was never appreciated by users, the

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: Joe Rotello schrieb: Firefox updates This is a SeaMonkey newsgroup, please take Firefox discussions to a Firefox group. Robert Kaiser read the title again new 2.3 Now realize that Fire Fox is up to version 5, 6, 7, 8 or whatever. Its obvious that whom ever started the

Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is a step backwards

Don schrieb: Is there any simple way to go back to an earlier version and still keep my bookmarks, settings, emails etc.? There is no older version that still is supported. Unsorted bookmarks are those you file quickly with the new bookmarks icon at the right of the location bar. Robert Kai

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Joe Rotello schrieb: Firefox updates This is a SeaMonkey newsgroup, please take Firefox discussions to a Firefox group. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments t

Re: new 2.3

Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:47:15 +0100, /Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)/: Robert Kaiser wrote: Well, the mass of innovation-resistant people posting in those forums is at least one of the reasons why I moved away my focus from SeaMonkey and work on making Firefox more stable (in terms of not crashin

Re: new 2.3

Robert Kaiser wrote: Well, the mass of innovation-resistant people posting in those forums is at least one of the reasons why I moved away my focus from SeaMonkey and work on making Firefox more stable (in terms of not crashing) now. Understood, Robert. I can quite see that from the persp

Re: Tab Groups

On 8/6/2011 11:26 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. Interesting and thanks. So group

Never Mind..Re: Download YouTube Videos as MP4 and FLV 1.2.3 Extension

Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:07:27 -0500, JD wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:53:18 -0500, JD wrote: This used to work but YouTube changed something and when I click on More for this extension I end up here: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105 When I click

Seamonkey 2.0 is a step backwards

Clearly Seamonkey 2.2 is a step backward. It has many changes with no real improvement. This new version makes some things take more time, like simply saving a bookmark. Now there is no way to designate a new bookmark folder. Many other problems. For one thing there is no documentation for t

Re: Download YouTube Videos as MP4 and FLV 1.2.3 Extension

Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:07:27 -0500, JD wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:53:18 -0500, JD wrote: This used to work but YouTube changed something and when I click on More for this extension I end up here: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105 When I click

Seamonkey 2.2 mail client temporary files deletion failure

Seamonkey 2.2 mail client temporary files deletion failure - On Seamonkey 2.2 and 2.1, it has been noted that the mail client (i.e. Messenger) fails to delete temporary files such as NSCOPY.TMP and NSEMAIL.EML from the Windows temporary folder. In previous versions of SM including 1.X and 2.X up t

Re: new 2.3

WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for business use. I can dig out t

Re: Download YouTube Videos as MP4 and FLV 1.2.3 Extension

On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:07:27 -0500, JD wrote: > Philip Chee wrote: >> On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:53:18 -0500, JD wrote: >>> This used to work but YouTube changed something and when I click on More >>> for this extension I end up here: >>> >>> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105 >>> >>> When I cli

Re: YouTube won't maximize?

NoOp wrote: On 08/06/2011 02:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation controls appear in fro

RE: Tab Groups

Ray_Net wrote: > Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: >> On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: >>> Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? >>> >> >> It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, >> with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would >>

Re:Tab Groups

Daniel wrote: > Ray_Net wrote: >> Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: >>> On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? >>> >>> It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, >>> with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do n

Re: Tab Groups

Robert Kaiser wrote: Ed Mullen schrieb: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. It has been included in a not yet c

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Repeated it below, but whomever is freaking out on "were told that Firefox is not suitable for business use." better sit down and realize that they were likely told / ordered what they would say. MS "owns" most of corporate America...period. And no, that's not a blanket statement...the likes of

Re: Tab Groups

Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ How come abbreviated is such a long word? __

Re: Tab Groups

Ed Mullen schrieb: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. It has been included in a not yet completely mature state

Re: YouTube won't maximize?

On 08/06/2011 02:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part > of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they > work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation > controls appear in front of

Re: Tab Groups

Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see

Re: Tab Groups

Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon

Re: Download YouTube Videos as MP4 and FLV 1.2.3 Extension

Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:53:18 -0500, JD wrote: This used to work but YouTube changed something and when I click on More for this extension I end up here: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105 When I click on Install, I end up here: http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/2

Re: Download YouTube Videos as MP4 and FLV 1.2.3 Extension

On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 07:53:18 -0500, JD wrote: > This used to work but YouTube changed something and when I click on More > for this extension I end up here: > > http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105 > > When I click on Install, I end up here: > > http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/25105.

Re: Password Management Tips

Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:28:36 +0200, /Jens Hatlak/: > Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: > >> 1. Secure Login >> >> It is not packaged as SeaMonkey compatible but is easily patched >> to make it so - see "secure_login+sm.diff" attached. > > That's a good start, b

Re: new 2.3

Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for business use. I can dig out the link for

Re: Tab Groups

Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see

Re: new 2.3

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for business use. I can dig out the link for anyone who hasn'

Re: YouTube won't maximize?

On 8/6/11 2:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part > of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they > work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation > controls appear in front of the

Re: new 2.3

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: What is the definition that you are using of 'progress'? Is it only new features or wrinkles in the UI, or can it be eradication of existing bugs and misguided UI feature implementations? Both, even simplifying UI co

Re: 2.3 Released?

Jens Hatlak schrieb: Filed . Thanks a lot! Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community sho

Re: Tab Groups

Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: > Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that > often, > and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not suitable for > business > use. I can dig out the link for anyone who hasn't lea

Download YouTube Videos as MP4 and FLV 1.2.3 Extension

This used to work but YouTube changed something and when I click on More for this extension I end up here: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25105 When I click on Install, I end up here: http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/25105.user.js What do I do with that? -- JD.. __

Re: Password Management Tips

Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:43:16 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:28:36 +0200, /Jens Hatlak/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: 1. Secure Login It is not packaged as SeaMonkey compatible but is easily patched to make it so - see "secure_login+

Re: Tab Groups

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had

Re: Is there a way to have SM v2.0.14+ automatically open web sites at/after a specific date and time?

Ant wrote: On 8/4/2011 6:07 AM PT, Daniel typed: Is there a(n) option/way or an extension/addon that makes SM v2.0.14+ web browser automatically open web site(s) at/after specific dates and times in (a) new tab(s)? Thank you in advance. :) Sorry, Ant, not sure what you are asking. Are you wa

Re: YouTube won't maximize?

Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:19:53 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation controls appear in front of th

Re: YouTube won't maximize?

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation controls appear in front of the black screen. I can maximize

Re: YouTube won't maximize?

On 06/08/11 11:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation controls appear in front of the black scr

YouTube won't maximize?

Lately I've noticed that if I maximize a YouTube video, the content part of the screen goes black. I still have controls at the bottom, and they work, but that's it. At the end, the "Replay" and other navigation controls appear in front of the black screen. I can maximize vids from other source

Re: 2.3 Released?

Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: You probably received an update because you installed a beta version in the past, which pinned you to the beta update channel. You can check in about:config, filtering on "app.update.channel". Would be nice if SeaMonkey included this in the about: page

Re: new 2.3

Jens Hatlak wrote: Well, even some developers (like me) agree with the above statement, but to be blunt: That doesn't matter. SM releases depend on the Mozilla platform, which is where the vast majority of security issues is to be found (since it includes the rendering engine, protocol stac