Re: Java, again

2013-01-02 Thread Craig
WaltS wrote: Craig wrote: Is it possible to get Java to work with SeaMonkey yet? Thanks, Craig No. "Linux: The Oracle Java 7 plugin does not work with SeaMonkey (bug 754622)." http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/#issues https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?

Re: How does the cache setups work in the latest stable SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers?

2013-01-02 Thread Ant
On 1/2/2013 6:48 AM PT, Ron Hunter typed: > I understand that people using satellite based internet also have long latency problems. Just use what works best for your situation. Don't forget caps. -- "When the people look like ants -- PULL. When the ants look like people -- PRAY." --A skydiv

Re: Java, again

2013-01-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/2/13 7:24 PM, Robert Alexander wrote: > On 1/2/2013 9:01 PM, Craig wrote: >> I ran a plugin check (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/) and >> saw the message, >> >> Missing JAVA? >> >> For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of >> Java. Please upgrade

Re: Java, again

2013-01-02 Thread Robert Alexander
On 1/2/2013 9:01 PM, Craig wrote: I ran a plugin check (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/) and saw the message, Missing JAVA? For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Java. Please upgrade to the latest version. So I clicked on the "upgrade to the l

Can't edit or delete an existing mailing list or create a new one

2013-01-02 Thread Dick Hoffman
Running SeaMonkey 2.14.1 under Windows XP SP3, I am unable to edit entries in a mailing list, unable to delete an existing mailing list and unable to create a new mailing list. I need to delete one entry and edit two other entries in a mailing list. This seems to work but if I exit SM and resta

Re: Java, again

2013-01-02 Thread WaltS
Craig wrote: > I ran a plugin check (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/) and > saw the message, > > Missing JAVA? > > For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of > Java. Please upgrade to the latest version. > > So I clicked on the "upgrade to the latest ve

Java, again

2013-01-02 Thread Craig
I ran a plugin check (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/) and saw the message, Missing JAVA? For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Java. Please upgrade to the latest version. So I clicked on the "upgrade to the latest version", downloade

Re: Still not informed of updates

2013-01-02 Thread Craig
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: If you want to know what to substitute them as, you can set app.update.log;true and then you'll see all the details in your error console when you attempt an update. Yup, I sure do! The reason for those substitutions is so that we can give you the proper update,

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread PhillipJones
BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Ac

Re: Seamonkey 2.14.1 - the whole PC freezes after hibernation mode

2013-01-02 Thread Glen
Michael Davis wrote: Hi All, I have just updated from Seamonkey 2.13.2 to 2.14.1. I am running SM 2.14.1 under Windows XP SP3. After waking from the windows hibernation mode the whole PC freezes, if Seamonkey was running before hibernation! It has never happened with SM 2.13.2. Is there any so

Seamonkey 2.14.1 - the whole PC freezes after hibernation mode

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Davis
Hi All, I have just updated from Seamonkey 2.13.2 to 2.14.1. I am running SM 2.14.1 under Windows XP SP3. After waking from the windows hibernation mode the whole PC freezes, if Seamonkey was running before hibernation! It has never happened with SM 2.13.2. Is there any solution for 2.14.1 to

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls

Bug 780393 [Attn: Mr. Ross]

2013-01-02 Thread WaltS
Agreed it is improper UA sniffing, but the issue was that it didn't work without Gecko/20100101, not with Firefox compatibility disabled in SeaMonkey. Firefox compatibility was included in SeaMonkey just for that reason. I think a sepa

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread BIll Spikowski
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > BIll Spikowski wrote: > >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> >>> I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have >>> both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what >>> good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in >>> Acr

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > BIll Spikowski wrote: >> Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks >> the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of >> the crippled Reader. > > Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such >

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse t

Re: How does the cache setups work in the latest stable SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers?

2013-01-02 Thread Rufus
Ron Hunter wrote: On 1/1/2013 4:02 PM, MCBastos wrote: Ant wrote: Hello. Does the web browsers keep the most used cached files on the disks? Do the least used one get thrown one when more room is needed? Thank you in advance. :) By default most web browsers keep a disk cache of recently-ace

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread BIll Spikowski
WaltS wrote: > On 01/02/2013 08:54 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: >> WaltS wrote: >>> On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: > BIll Spikowski wrote: >> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different >> locations. >> >> They all run Win

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread BIll Spikowski
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > BIll Spikowski wrote: > >> David E. Ross wrote: >> >>> I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to >>> reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; >>> but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the >>> re

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/2/13 9:36 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: So does Reader 11 let you view files that Acrobat 4 can't display? Is that the point? It hadn't occurred to me that you might still be running a 1998-vintage program. I have no idea if Acrobat 4 cannot view files that Reader 11

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/2/13 7:50 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > No copy-and-paste functionality exposed in the plug-ins manager (grr), > so herewith best effort at human copy-and-replicate : > This is bug #246400 at . It's almost 9 years old. See also bug #

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/2/13 9:36 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > David E. Ross wrote: > >> On 1/2/13 6:13 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> >>> I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both >>> programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is >>> the Reader? You already ha

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/2/13 6:13 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, a

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/2/13 6:13 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > > I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both > programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is > the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So > don't confuse them, and don't con

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
WaltS wrote: So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? Acrobat 10 does have a plugin, which for some reason is listed twice in about:plugins on my syste

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
WaltS wrote: > On 01/02/2013 10:05 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: >> but would that not hide it unconditionally ? > > It would. > > > The full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 doesn't come with a reader plugin, > and you have none showing in SeaMonkey under Tools > Add-ons Manager > > Plugins? No copy-and-pas

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread WaltS
On 01/02/2013 08:54 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: WaltS wrote: On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread WaltS
On 01/02/2013 10:05 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: WaltS wrote: Maybe setting this pref "plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin" to "true" in about:config, or one of the other plugins.update prefs. Thank you, Walt, but would that not hide it unconditionally ? I would like to be able to hide it

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Jay Garcia
On 02.01.2013 08:56, WaltS wrote: --- Original Message --- > Philip TAYLOR wrote: >> >> >> Jay Garcia wrote: >>> If you're running Acrobat which includes the "reader" then there is no >>> reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade "reader". >>> Acrobat itself, as usual, will

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
WaltS wrote: > Maybe setting this pref "plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin" to > "true" in about:config, or one of the other plugins.update prefs. Thank you, Walt, but would that not hide it unconditionally ? I would like to be able to hide it selectively, for those (and only for those) p

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread WaltS
Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Jay Garcia wrote: >> If you're running Acrobat which includes the "reader" then there is no >> reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade "reader". >> Acrobat itself, as usual, will let you know if there is an upgrade. Mine >> does and I never find th

Re: How does the cache setups work in the latest stable SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers?

2013-01-02 Thread Ron Hunter
On 1/2/2013 8:38 AM, MCBastos wrote: Ron Hunter wrote: Another aspect to the disk cache is that if you have a reasonably fast broadband connection, you will probably slow the rendering of pages other than the very most complex graphics dependent ones by waiting for disk search, and access, as o

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Jay Garcia wrote: > If you're running Acrobat which includes the "reader" then there is no > reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade "reader". > Acrobat itself, as usual, will let you know if there is an upgrade. Mine > does and I never find the need for plugincheck to do so

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Jay Garcia
On 02.01.2013 08:20, Philip TAYLOR wrote: --- Original Message --- > > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > >> I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in

Re: How does the cache setups work in the latest stable SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers?

2013-01-02 Thread MCBastos
Ron Hunter wrote: Another aspect to the disk cache is that if you have a reasonably fast broadband connection, you will probably slow the rendering of pages other than the very most complex graphics dependent ones by waiting for disk search, and access, as opposed to just getting them online. I

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
If you don't have the reader, you cannot assess what functionality will be exposed in PDFs that you create for those that cannot afford the full product. Like Bill, I too am infuriated by the latest Seamonkey's blatant refusal to allow me to use whichever version of Adobe Acrobat I choose without

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
BIll Spikowski wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader. Also, you should turn off updates. On t

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread BIll Spikowski
Paul wrote: > BIll Spikowski wrote: >> I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different >> locations. >> >> They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links >> in a new tab. >> >> For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same >> problem. Inst

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread BIll Spikowski
WaltS wrote: > On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: >> Ed Mullen wrote: >>> BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab.

Re: A new PDF problem...

2013-01-02 Thread BIll Spikowski
David E. Ross wrote: > On 12/31/12 9:53 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: >> Ed Mullen wrote: >>> BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab.

Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2013-01-02 Thread Daniel
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/31/12 4:33 AM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 12/30/12 10:56 AM, Michael Gordon wrote: David, I think the OP stated he could not find a user.js file, that would be because in the Mozilla profiles a user.js file must be created by the user. Once it is cre

Re: How does the cache setups work in the latest stable SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers?

2013-01-02 Thread Ron Hunter
On 1/1/2013 4:02 PM, MCBastos wrote: Ant wrote: Hello. Does the web browsers keep the most used cached files on the disks? Do the least used one get thrown one when more room is needed? Thank you in advance. :) By default most web browsers keep a disk cache of recently-acessed pages, images