Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-04-01 Thread Ray_Net
Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:48:11 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 31, 7:11 pm, Terry R. terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-04-01 Thread google00
On Apr 1, 9:21 am, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:48:11 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 31, 7:11 pm, Terry R. terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com wrote: The date and time

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-04-01 Thread Terry R.
The date and time was Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:21:36 AM, and on a whim, Ray_Net pounded out on the keyboard: I can see how it is confusing, although I agree with the method. Most of us write a message and send it off. I compose in HTML and I have a serif font as my default. I have my

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-04-01 Thread Ray_Net
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Apr 1, 9:21 am, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:48:11 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 31, 7:11 pm, Terry R. terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread Ray_Net
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts Me. When I go into the

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread google00
On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML,

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread google00
On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML,

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread Daniel
NoOp wrote: On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50 or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time, if I send

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread Terry R.
The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread Leonidas Jones
Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50 or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-31 Thread google00
On Mar 31, 7:11 pm, Terry R. terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Ray_Net
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: SM doesn't convert it properly all the time, If you cannot furnish a testcase to reproduce the problem, nobody will be able to solve your problem. But i repeat if you position your preference to send only in html - and if you at least put an html stuff into your

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
Yes - putting stuff in every message that forces the converter to say send in HTML is a common workaround that a lot of people do (see the original thread I referenced at the top of this one). Having a fancy HTML signature also works as a workaround. In fact, it looks like the workarounds are

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Yes - putting stuff in every message that forces the converter to say send in HTML is a common workaround that a lot of people do (see the original thread I referenced at the top of this one). Having a fancy HTML signature also works as a workaround. In fact, it looks

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
I wish Mozilla did allow me a choice. No matter how hard I try to have messages go, by default, in HTML. Mozilla looks at them and says yeah, plain text is good enough and converts them. that's the problem. All I'm suggesting is an OPTION to disable the auto-conversion. I can't believe how

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts Me. When I go into the sent folder and do a view - message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been converted to text). However,

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: I wish Mozilla did allow me a choice. No matter how hard I try to have messages go, by default, in HTML. Mozilla looks at them and says yeah, plain text is good enough and converts them. that's the problem. All I'm suggesting is an OPTION to disable the

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email I think you're using

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. Some of us

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Leonidas Jones
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
On Mar 30, 5:41 pm, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Terry R.
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Ray_Net
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts Me. When I go into the sent folder and do a view - message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts Me. When I go into the sent folder and do a view

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
On Mar 30, 6:44 pm, Terry R. terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread Leonidas Jones
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:44 pm, Terry R.terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread google00
On Mar 30, 9:28 pm, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:44 pm, Terry R.terry.f1...@nospamgmail.com wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-30 Thread NoOp
On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50 or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time, if I send in a

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-29 Thread Benoit Renard
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: 2) We both agree that, for example, if I write a message in Comic Sans MS, and want my messages to go out IN THAT FONT (because that's the way I like people to see my messages) Welcome to the web. Here, /we/ decide how to view your e-mail messages.

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-29 Thread google00
Yes, Thanks for the welcome, but I've been on since '96. Many people choose to view in the format that people send. No offense, because this isn't directed primarily at you, but I never thought I would stumble across a religious EMail must travel as plain text if at all possible war here. I

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-29 Thread google00
Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50 or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time, if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a proportional font, etc. I

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-28 Thread google00
Hi Ray-net - actually a good Email, as you confirmed my issue - Thanks. However, your conclusions are incorrect... if you don't use any html gadget when composing your mail... the mail is sent in plain text. I absolutely agree - thanks! In this case, there is no need of a conversion, because

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-28 Thread google00
Hi 1) I obviously cannot send you a sample.txt file for an INTERMITTENT issue. 2) We both agree that, for example, if I write a message in Comic Sans MS, and want my messages to go out IN THAT FONT (because that's the way I like people to see my messages), there's no way to do that without a)

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-27 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Dear Mr. Potamus. You should really View Message Source and you will see what i mean. I just sent myself an Email composed in HTML, and having that

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-27 Thread google00
I haven't tried SM2 - still using SM1 - this was a request for SM2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread google00
Thanks Peter - that's indeed an option, for, as posted when sending formatted messages and one or more recipients are not listed as being able to receive HTML. However, if you don't fill in any HTML or PlainText Domains, then, regardless of which of the 4 settings you choose from that menu,

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Thanks Peter - that's indeed an option, for, as posted when sending formatted messages and one or more recipients are not listed as being able to receive HTML. However, if you don't fill in any HTML or PlainText Domains, then, regardless of which of the 4 settings you

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread google00
Dear Mr. Potamus. You should really View Message Source and you will see what i mean. I just sent myself an Email composed in HTML, and having that setting you refer to set to HTML only. Here's what I received... - Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Dear Mr. Potamus. You should really View Message Source and you will see what i mean. I just sent myself an Email composed in HTML, and having that setting you refer to set to HTML only. Here's what I received...

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Dear Mr. Potamus. You should really View Message Source and you will see what i mean. I just sent myself an Email composed in HTML, and having that setting you refer to set to HTML only.

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread google00
Dear Mr. Potamus... ME I have it set to send ONLY HTML, and I get back plain text YOU: if you have the setting to HTML and Plain text, scroll down to see the HTML: ME: I have it set to send ONLY HTML, and I get back ONLY plain text, nothing to scroll down to YOU: To view, its: View, Message

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Dear Mr. Potamus... ME I have it set to send ONLY HTML, and I get back plain text YOU: if you have the setting to HTML and Plain text, scroll down to see the HTML: ME: I have it set to send ONLY HTML, and I get back ONLY plain text, nothing to scroll down to YOU: To

OT: Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: No offense Mr. Potamus, but I have been a Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey user for 24 years, impossible. That would be around 1985, and Netscape came out in the early 90's. followup set to mozilla.general -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email

OT Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Leonidas Jones
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sir - why would you change the subject of my request, which I have proven is legitimate, to OT:? I'm sorry your solutions don't work. Your logic If I can't help him, then I don't want anyone else to is so counter to the spirit of this forum, and this program, that I

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Ray_Net
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: YOU: what developers? No developers have been here to say anything about this. ME: Developer input from earlier in this thread... == The forum thread points to bug 157346 which has been resolved as a duplicate of bug 136502. Comment 8

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-26 Thread Leonidas Jones
Ray_Net wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: YOU: what developers? No developers have been here to say anything about this. ME: Developer input from earlier in this thread... == The forum thread points to bug 157346 which has been resolved as a duplicate of bug

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-25 Thread Ray_Net
I work with SM 1.1.14. On my mail account - View Settings for this account - Composition Adressing - I have the option Compose messages in HTML format SET. So there is no need to do something for each mail sent. In addition, when in mail - Options - Format - is by default set to

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-25 Thread google00
Yes Ray - that option is there - Feel free to set it. I have mine set. Doesn't make any difference. Seamonkey will STILL convert your messages to plain text when it thinks it's appropriate. So if you want to be sure that you send in HTML, you MUST do something for EACH Email. This is well

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-25 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Yes Ray - that option is there - Feel free to set it. I have mine set. Doesn't make any difference. Seamonkey will STILL convert your messages to plain text when it thinks it's appropriate. So if you want to be sure that you send in HTML, you MUST do something for

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-24 Thread google00
I agree with Mr. Barclay, but there is much to do and only so much free labor. So I limit my request to simply providing an option to turn off the I think you should send plain text, so I will convert it for you feature. /j Perhaps there's some lynx or links2 code that could be used in

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-24 Thread google00
Yes Lee, I can. But I'm a bit tired of having to do Options - Format - Send for -every- single email that I send. That's why I'm politely requesting the option disable auto- conversion to plain text. Thanks! 8-} /j Look in Send Format. You can make your preferred selection there. Lee

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Mr Gehr - that option is there, and does the opposite of what I want it to do. Not choosing that option does not keep SM from converting my message. See the original threads I quoted. What I am asking for, which is Disable automatic conversion to plan text. So the

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-16 Thread google00
On Mar 16, 4:02 pm, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: See the original threads I quoted. What I am asking for, which is Disable automatic conversion to plantext. So the message will be readable by all the mail agents which handle HTML but not plaintext? Why do you care? I assume

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-13 Thread google00
Mr. Hansen - I don't think you're following. In order to don't do that, I have to go Options-Format-Rich (HTML) Text, for -every- message. I believe that SM starts with each message set to HTML, but after I click Send, I believe SM reviews the message and decides whether to convert to Plain

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-13 Thread Carl Gehr
On 03/13/09 09:54 am, googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Mr. Hansen - I don't think you're following. In order to don't do that, I have to go Options-Format-Rich (HTML) Text, for -every- message. I believe that SM starts with each message set to HTML, but after I click Send, I believe SM reviews the

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-13 Thread google00
Mr Gehr - that option is there, and does the opposite of what I want it to do. Not choosing that option does not keep SM from converting my message. See the original threads I quoted. What I am asking for, which is Disable automatic conversion to plan text. Is NOT a current option anywhere in

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-12 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: I don't know if SM converts from html to plain text badly or not, but, if it does convert badly, wouldn't that be an even better reason to NOT send in htlm so that there is no conversion necessary??? SM converts from HTML to Plain Text BADLY. Take my word for it.

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-12 Thread JeffM
google00@ kwcpa.com wrote: SM converts from HTML to Plain Text BADLY. Take my word for it. Biggest problem is that paragraph breaks are reduced, eliminating blank line between paragraphs. Text also sometimes wraps improperly (Newlines appear in the middle of lines). So i compose in HTML by

Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel
nore...@invalid.com wrote: Answer - when Seamonkey converts to plain text it does so BADLY. Most paragraph breaks are removed (no blank line between paragraphs) and sometimes lines are broken at odd boundaries. I think there are explainable anomalies for this behavior, but either SM needs a