Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-03-19 15:18 (GMT) Philip TAYLOR composed: I would argue that if anyone is stupid [1] enough to have that many tabs open at one time, he or she deserves whatever crazy behaviour they experience as a result. Computers are tools. Virtual desktops are tools. Web browsers are tools. Many

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Felix Miata wrote: > There can have been no step back here, no reduction, as the option has > never existed in SM (except via extension). As comment 7 in > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534221 shows, close buttons > on tabs could be a major usability reduction for some SM users.

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-03-10 19:59 (GMT) Rickles composed: David E. Ross wrote: Frankly, I prefer the current capability. It means that the tab whose page I see is the tab that will be closed... So what we have now is different users wishing to choose how the tab closure should work in their own situati

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-03-10 18:44 (GMT-0300) MCBastos composed: But those are usually cheapo house-brand mice. His is a Logitech, and in my experience Logitech mice are very durable. The best pointing device ever made was made by Logitech,[1] the Trackman Marble FX. They do wear out.[2] I had to replace th

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Jim Taylor
Rickles wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Frankly, I prefer the current capability. It means that the tab whose page I see is the tab that will be closed. It also means that, when I select the X button on the far right, I am unlikely to select a tab adjacent to the current tab by having my cursor

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 10/03/2013 12:19, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: > You must have really bad luck with mice. > > In nearly 30 years of running PCs (my first was an IBM PC-XT in 1985), > I've never ever worn out a mouse. Sure, I've had to clean out the dust > and hair and other miscellan

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Rickles
David E. Ross wrote: Frankly, I prefer the current capability. It means that the tab whose page I see is the tab that will be closed. It also means that, when I select the X button on the far right, I am unlikely to select a tab adjacent to the current tab by having my cursor positioned incor

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/10/13 9:32 AM, Rickles wrote: > Jim Taylor wrote: >> Philip TAYLOR wrote: >>> >>> >>> wrote: >>> This has been discussed before. The current way of having the tab close X at a fixed position on the far right of the tab bar works better for the way many people use the browser (

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Rickles
Jim Taylor wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: wrote: This has been discussed before. The current way of having the tab close X at a fixed position on the far right of the tab bar works better for the way many people use the browser (including me) than having it on each tab the way Firefox does.

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Philip TAYLOR
wrote: > Probably the best solution is to give the user a choice thru a > preference (browser.tabs.closeButton) of how they want the close > button displayed, as Firefox does > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons . Actually > SeaMonkey has that preference but I don't know if

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Rickles wrote: No I haven't, simply because I use the middle (mouse wheel) button as a double-click action, to save wear & tear on the left button. I've had to replace too many mice because the left button wears out before anything else on the mouse, so my current Logitech mouse is set up so I

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread JAS
Rickles wrote: > MCBastos wrote: >> Interviewed by CNN on 09/03/2013 20:41, Rickles told the world: >> >>> According to the Add-Ons search, the closest thing is a right-click >>> menu >>> tool that is accessed anywhere inside the tab window of the page being >>> viewed, to close that page. But I a

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 10/03/2013 08:39, Rickles told the world: > MCBastos wrote: >> Have you tried middle-clicking on the tab? >> > No I haven't, simply because I use the middle (mouse wheel) button as a > double-click action, to save wear & tear on the left button. I've had > to replace too m

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Jim Taylor
Philip TAYLOR wrote: wrote: This has been discussed before. The current way of having the tab close X at a fixed position on the far right of the tab bar works better for the way many people use the browser (including me) than having it on each tab the way Firefox does. "For many people".

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Philip TAYLOR
wrote: > This has been discussed before. The current way of having the tab close > X at a fixed position on the far right of the tab bar works better for > the way many people use the browser (including me) than having it on > each tab the way Firefox does. "For many people". Could you add

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Rickles
Jim Taylor wrote: Rickles wrote: According to the Add-Ons search, the closest thing is a right-click menu tool that is accessed anywhere inside the tab window of the page being viewed, to close that page. But I agree, the X on the tab name is the simplest, most direct and obvious means of clos

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Rickles
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 09/03/2013 20:41, Rickles told the world: According to the Add-Ons search, the closest thing is a right-click menu tool that is accessed anywhere inside the tab window of the page being viewed, to close that page. But I agree, the X on the tab name is the

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread Jim Taylor
Rickles wrote: According to the Add-Ons search, the closest thing is a right-click menu tool that is accessed anywhere inside the tab window of the page being viewed, to close that page. But I agree, the X on the tab name is the simplest, most direct and obvious means of closing any tab at any

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-10 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 09/03/2013 20:41, Rickles told the world: > According to the Add-Ons search, the closest thing is a right-click menu > tool that is accessed anywhere inside the tab window of the page being > viewed, to close that page. But I agree, the X on the tab name is the > simplest

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Rickles wrote: According to the Add-Ons search, the closest thing is a right-click menu tool that is accessed anywhere inside the tab window of the page being viewed, to close that page. But I agree, the X on the tab name is the simplest, most direct and obvious means of closing any tab at any

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread Rickles
the help. SeaTab X is the culprit. Disabling it restores tab behavior to normal. Found this on the SeaTab X web site: "Development ended on Mostly Crystal and all extensions as of SeaMonkey version 2.15. All theme and extension files are no longer available." I really liked the little x on t

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread Mark Berger
x27; function, I've never verified that. If you're using the same or some other plugins associated with tabs and their controls (closing/renaming/resizing,coloring, etc.) then try disabling those to work out which one(s) is affecting the behavior. Thanks for the help. SeaTab X is the c

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread Rickles
Mark Berger wrote: SM 2.16.1 Windows XP SP3 Has anyone noticed a change in the results when moving tabs? When several tabs are opened, clicking on a tab and dragging it to another position, indicated by an arrow above the tab, used to just move the tab to the indicated position. Now when I cli

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/9/13 11:47 AM, Mark Berger wrote: > SM 2.16.1 > Windows XP SP3 > > Has anyone noticed a change in the results when moving tabs? When > several tabs are opened, clicking on a tab and dragging it to another > position, indicated by an arrow above the tab, used to just move the tab > to the

Re: Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Mark Berger wrote: SM 2.16.1 Windows XP SP3 Has anyone noticed a change in the results when moving tabs? When several tabs are opened, clicking on a tab and dragging it to another position, indicated by an arrow above the tab, used to just move the tab to the indicated position. Now when I cl

Change in 'Move Tab' behavior

2013-03-09 Thread Mark Berger
SM 2.16.1 Windows XP SP3 Has anyone noticed a change in the results when moving tabs? When several tabs are opened, clicking on a tab and dragging it to another position, indicated by an arrow above the tab, used to just move the tab to the indicated position. Now when I click on a tab, the

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
NoOp wrote: On 03/16/2010 08:48 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: Mike C a écrit : The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on either opens links in new tabs. It even wo

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
S. Beaulieu wrote: Mike C a écrit : The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on either opens links in new tabs. It even works for email and newsgroups links

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike C wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/14/10 11:12 AM, Mike C wrote: Uninstalled SM 1.1.18 Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3 It went seamless! Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default. I have set this behavior in preferences. "Open links meant to open a new window in A ne

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-17 Thread Mike C
Mike C wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/16/10 4:31 PM, Mike C wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Mike C a écrit : The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on either

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-17 Thread Mike C
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/16/10 4:31 PM, Mike C wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Mike C a écrit : The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on either opens links in

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-16 Thread NoOp
On 03/16/2010 08:48 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote: > Mike C a écrit : >> The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in >> a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. > > Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on > either opens links in new tabs. It even wor

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-16 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/16/10 4:31 PM, Mike C wrote: > S. Beaulieu wrote: >> Mike C a écrit : >>> The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in >>> a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. >> >> Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on >> either opens links in new t

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-16 Thread Mike C
S. Beaulieu wrote: Mike C a écrit : The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on either opens links in new tabs. It even works for email and newsgroups links.

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-16 Thread S. Beaulieu
Mike C a écrit : The only way to open a new tab is to right click and then "open link in a new tab". I guess I'll get used to it. Do you have a middle button on your mouse? Or a wheel? Clicking on either opens links in new tabs. It even works for email and newsgroups links. S. _

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-16 Thread Mike C
Rick Merrill wrote: Mike C wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/14/10 11:12 AM, Mike C wrote: Uninstalled SM 1.1.18 Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3 It went seamless! Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default. I have set this behavior in preferences. "Open links meant to open

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-15 Thread Rick Merrill
Mike C wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/14/10 11:12 AM, Mike C wrote: Uninstalled SM 1.1.18 Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3 It went seamless! Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default. I have set this behavior in preferences. "Open links meant to open a new window in A ne

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-15 Thread Mike C
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/14/10 11:12 AM, Mike C wrote: Uninstalled SM 1.1.18 Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3 It went seamless! Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default. I have set this behavior in preferences. "Open links meant to open a new window in A new tab in the cu

Re: Tab Behavior

2010-03-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/14/10 11:12 AM, Mike C wrote: > Uninstalled SM 1.1.18 > Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3 > It went seamless! > > Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default. > > I have set this behavior in preferences. > "Open links meant to open a new window in > A new tab in the current

Tab Behavior

2010-03-14 Thread Mike C
Uninstalled SM 1.1.18 Installed SM 2.0 updated to 2.0.3 It went seamless! Problem is I can't get links to open in a new tab by default. I have set this behavior in preferences. "Open links meant to open a new window in A new tab in the current window" PS: I posted this in N.P.M.Seamonkey but di

Re: Window/tab behavior glitch since 2.01

2010-01-20 Thread Rex
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rex: Hartmut Figge wrote: Rex: I'm now on 2.02,and here's the problem. After installing an extension Which one? Which version? Or does this happen withe every extension? Yep, after any extension install. Nice. :) Do you have a file named extension.log in your prof

Re: Window/tab behavior glitch since 2.01

2010-01-17 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rex: >Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Rex: >>> I'm now on 2.02,and here's the problem. >>> After installing an extension >> >> Which one? Which version? Or does this happen withe every extension? > >Yep, after any extension install. Nice. :) Do you have a file named extension.log in your profile?. If so

Re: Window/tab behavior glitch since 2.01

2010-01-17 Thread Rex
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rex: I'm now on 2.02,and here's the problem. After installing an extension Which one? Which version? Or does this happen withe every extension? Yep, after any extension install. when I restart Seamonkey, the tab bar is not displayed, despite disabling 'Hide tab bar wh

Re: Window/tab behavior glitch since 2.01

2010-01-16 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rex: >I'm now on 2.02,and here's the problem. >After installing an extension Which one? Which version? Or does this happen withe every extension? >when I restart Seamonkey, the tab bar is not displayed, despite >disabling 'Hide tab bar when only one is open'. I also can't create >new tabs, nor o

Window/tab behavior glitch since 2.01

2010-01-16 Thread Rex
I'm now on 2.02,and here's the problem. After installing an extension when I restart Seamonkey, the tab bar is not displayed, despite disabling 'Hide tab bar when only one is open'. I also can't create new tabs, nor open any website. I again restart Seamonkey, and then it works fine. Or, if I'v

Buggy tab behavior in SM 2.01

2009-12-23 Thread Rex
I've set Seamonkey to always show the tab bar even when only one tab is open. Since updating to 2.01, I either see the tab bar gone (and have to re-enable it from the menu), and at times it refuses to open a new tab whether I press ^T, click the new tab icon, or use the File-New-New tab option.

Inconsistent tab behavior on 2.01

2009-12-23 Thread Rex
I've set Seamonkey to always show the tab bar even when only one tab is open. Since updating to 2.01, I either see the tab bar gone (and have to re-enable it from the menu), and at times it refuses to open a new tab whether I press ^T, click the new tab icon, or use the File-New-New tab option.