Question about threading in the email Notices from the new Adobe Forums

2009-04-13 Thread Phillip Jones
I read and post in the Adobe Forums. Recently, Adobe decided to switch to Jive system from there old WebX system. In old system Subjects were threaded as (example): Acrobat 9.1 does not sort pages correct Re:Acrobat 9.1 does not sort pages correct Re:Acrobat 9.1 does not sort pages co

Re: Question about threading in the email Notices from the new Adobe Forums

2009-04-13 Thread Phillip Jones
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I read and post in the Adobe Forums. Recently, Adobe decided to switch to Jive system from there old WebX system. In old system Subjects were threaded as (example): Acrobat 9.1 does not sort pages correct Re:Acrobat 9.1 does

Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-08-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Hello, it been a while I vowed never to come back to this forum except to ask a question. I remain true to my vow. I am asking a question I have a puzzle. examine this page with SM 1.1.17: http://villageelectronicsservice.com/VacationSchedule.aspx Now use: SM 2, FF3.0/3.5, Omniweb, Opera or i

Re: Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-08-31 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/30/2009 8:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Hello, it been a while I vowed never to come back to this forum except to ask a question. I remain true to my vow. I am asking a question I have a puzzle. examine this page with SM 1.1.17: http://villageelectronicsservice.com

Re: Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-08-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Keith Whaley wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Hello, it been a while I vowed never to come back to this forum except to ask a question. I remain true to my vow. I am asking a question I have a puzzle. examine this page with SM 1.1.17: http://villageelectronicsservice.com/VacationSchedule.aspx

Re: Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-08-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:33:08 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:27:39 -0400, /Phillip Jones/: examine this page with SM 1.1.17: http://villageelectronicsservice.com/VacationSchedule.aspx Now use: SM 2, FF3.0/3.5, Omniweb, Opera or iCab. In all of those

Re: Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-08-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:31:56 -0400, /Bush/: http://www.co.genesee.mi.us/treasurer/pi.htm Click onAssessment and Tax Information in the search box Choose SMITH ( just because it is a Common Name ) Then click one of the Smiths listed and See the Resulting page . I

Re: Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-08-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:27:39 -0400, /Phillip Jones/: examine this page with SM 1.1.17: http://villageelectronicsservice.com/VacationSchedule.aspx Now use: SM 2, FF3.0/3.5, Omniweb, Opera or iCab. In all of those All-in-ones and Web Browsers

Re: Site doesn't appear correct on SM 1.1.17

2009-09-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Rick wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Hello, it been a while I vowed never to come back to this forum except to ask a question. I remain true to my vow. I am asking a question I have a puzzle. examine this page with SM 1.1.17: http://villageelectronicsservice.com/VacationSchedule.aspx Now use

Re: Seamonkey works great and then vanishes from the hard drive on next start up.

2009-10-06 Thread Phillip Jones
dave wrote: I spent all afternoon loading up all the features of SeaMonkey to replace my old Netscape e-mail on my Intel iMac. And, it took over flawlessly which was a relief to me since Netscape was playing tricks on me by shuting down during forwarding of MIT articles to a friend. It had never

Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-19 Thread Phillip Jones
Jens Hatlak wrote: On 10/19/2009 6:54 PM Bill Davidsen wrote: Is there some reason why everyone is trying to do something else annoying when the SM1.1.xx behavior, to ask only when the MP was needed and do it only once (unless the timeout option was specified), was highly satisfactory? The n

Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-20 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 10/19/2009 04:10 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: ... The second I don't know whether is a Bug or an annoyance. I have a Master Password set. And when the password window comes up its dead I can not type in Password. I have to cancel it at which time It comes back this time its a

Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-20 Thread Phillip Jones
Neil wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/19/2009 04:10 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: The second I don't know whether is a Bug or an annoyance. I have a Master Password set. And when the password window comes up its dead I can not type in Password. I have to cancel it at which time It comes back

Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-20 Thread Phillip Jones
Martin Freitag wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: The first is I won't switch completely switch until QuoteColors is updated to work with it. It works, you just need to override it's compatibility. I'd suggest you ask the author of the extension to add SM to the compatibil

Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-20 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 10/20/2009 01:57 AM, Neil wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/19/2009 04:10 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: The second I don't know whether is a Bug or an annoyance. I have a Master Password set. And when the password window comes up its dead I can not type in Password. I have to cancel

Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-20 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: The first is I won't switch completely switch until QuoteColors is updated to work with it. It works, you just need to override it's compatibility. I'd suggest you ask the author of the e

Re: [Master Password] Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-21 Thread Phillip Jones
Neil wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: each time a new update is installed I've had 2 installed for several weeks now and whether updated through automatic Updater or by download and install this happens. Once it run one time then there is no problem. I've seen a bug reported for

Re: Annoying behavior, bugs seen with SM 2.0 RC1 -- looking for feedback, info

2009-10-21 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Hope you fix the dead Master Password window each time a new update is installed bug before it turns golden. I'll let him know. If you have a patch and can get reviews as well as check it in last week, then we can do it, else you have to live wi

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-23 Thread Phillip Jones
hano wrote: asmpgmr schrieb: To expand on that somewhat short statement: I think the most prominent case is a modal dialog that is triggered by a page that is loaded in a background tab or other window. I've honestly never had that happen. I would think that if you goto a site which does s

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-24 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. Then it's good that SeaMonkey is being developed by users. Or did you complain that different users have different opinions about what they want? Robert Kaiser Its being being develop

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-24 Thread Phillip Jones
Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/23/09 18:32, Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. The think they no more how a program should look like than the users that have to use it. Good God, have you a bone to pick or something? I am a developer and I certainly do

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-24 Thread Phillip Jones
Neil wrote: D. K. Kraft wrote: If SM 2 is using Toolkit, why would it be so difficult to port FF's about modal window to SM 2? Sorry, but I can't really answer this because I've never seen FF's about dialog, but at the time we were preparing to make the switchover from XPFE to toolkit and

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/23/09 18:32, Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. The think they no more how a program should look like than the users that have to use it. Good God, have you a bone to pick or

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: ---snip--- Phillip, if you painted your house Green, because you liked Green, would it matter to you if someone suggested you should have painted it Blue?? Or even a slightly different shade of Green?? The Guys that are doing the development are th

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept that while you might be one of our us

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be less usable because you don't like dialogs (Your words: "Download progress dialogs ? Eww!"). There really is no reason why this can't look more or less the same as SeaMonkey 1.x If y

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Tabs waste resources. Each page in a tab as cache and use memory to store. While I have 2 GB Memory in current Laptop with today's web pages that can be easily filled up is I have a bunch of Tabs open. What are you talking about? I only have 160

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: And if I were to use Thunderbird I actually like Postbox better because the last one I downloaded still allowed javascript in email. You do realise that JavaScript in mail is a big security risk, right? It doesn't have a place in e-mail messag

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: asmpgmr wrote: I don't like tabs either and see them as a pointless waste of screen space when the OS already has window management and its own taskbar which can be hidden The taskbar becomes less efficient the more buttons it has. Having tabs means that your taskbar is n

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 25, 10:02 am, Robert Kaiser wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I think it's dysfunctional to have a download process complete silently without telling me it succeeded, or worse yet, stall silently without telling me there's a problem. I don't know when I can go open the file

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Well the tiny round buttons aren't good. I've never seen any app have buttons like that, it needs normal buttons. Also what do you perceive as wrong with the 1.x design ? It looks perfectly fine to me. People who don't like dialogs can use the download manager

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: And if I were to use Thunderbird I actually like Postbox better because the last one I downloaded still allowed javascript in email. You do realise that JavaScript in mail is a big security risk, right? It

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: For example I've always thought Tabs was not what most users wanted, because it was a gee-whiz-bang feature that was in IE. we had to have it. You're wrong. OR, how about killing javascript, in Thunderbird. Securit

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 25, 4:52 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Now I realize this is subjective and that you think "progress dialogs are soo backwards, only really old software uses such a thing". That's not what I think but you seem to be so convinced that I do

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Daniel wrote: I don't know about this "Dead Link" feature being in Communicator, but maybe it was. I've used AM-Deadlink for the last ten years or so, and, as far as I can see, there would only be a link to a Spammer page in my address book if I put it there. So AM-Deadl

Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Using XP, I have for some time been plagued by freezes in SM1. The application becomes unresponsive, and all the SM windows in Task Manager show "Not responding". After a while (30 seconds perhaps) it comes back to life. But n

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Bill Davidsen wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/23/09 18:32, Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. The think they no more how a program should look like than the users that have to use it. Good God, have you a bone to pick or

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/23/09 18:32, Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. The think they no more how a program should look like than the users that have to use it. Good God, have you

Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-26 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: /snip/ RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add an extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I don't use it. Actually, Forumzilla work

Re: Freezing in SM2

2009-10-27 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/26/2009 4:45 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: /snip/ RSS doesn't exist in Mac version of SM 1.1.8 never has. you could add an extension but didn't like it. Even in FF I

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-27 Thread Phillip Jones
»Q« wrote: In , Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite today: SeaMonkey 2.0 Congratulations and thanks to everybody involved!

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-27 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: mailing links to pages which have the js doesn't make thing more secure, just less convenient. It does make it more secure. With no JavaScript in the e-mail message, you can't get exposed to the JavaScript just by opening the message. You have to cho

Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Niek wrote: On Oct 28, 3:12 am, Patrick Crumhorn wrote: This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine. After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It will not launch - at all

Re: Password Manager SM 2..

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
JD wrote: Rufus wrote: JD wrote: The password manager in SM version 2 sucks. Password Manager doesn't fill in the user name or password until I enter the start of it. V 1.1.18 filled it in when I went to a page that had a user name and/or password.. How long will V 1.1.18 be supported while I

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: In <news:q_wdny42wbu5vnvxnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org>, Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project at Mozilla is excited to release its completely refurbished next generation of the all-in one Internet suite

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel wrote: Lee, the way I read Phillip's post, He had SM 1.1.18 (with QuoteColours installed) installed, trailed SM 2.xx which made a copy of the profile. He then found the QC could not install, so returned to SM 1.1.18 and has had more emails, etc., included into the pro

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/27/09 06:21 pm, Phillip Jones wrote: Active-X will never, ever be safe. Java-script could be is some would take the time. They make Java work in Sandbox (whatever that is). Why can't Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it extensively. Ac

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If we have to scroll past three full screens of quintuply nested exchanges to read a one-line quip, there's something wrong. I have no one in particular in mind, just a general observation. I have an extension (the only one

Re: Password Manager SM 2..

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Evan Davidson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: JD wrote: Rufus wrote: JD wrote: The password manager in SM version 2 sucks. Password Manager doesn't fill in the user name or password until I enter the start of it. V 1.1.18 filled it in when I went to a page that had a user name and/or pas

Re: Switching User Agent in SM2

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Cecil Bankston wrote: Is there a built-in function or a compatible addon (such as User Agent Switcher - not compatible with 2.0) that allows switching user agent in SM2 for those retarded sites that don't recognize Seamonkey as a secure browser? PrefBar has a built in UA

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If we have to scroll past three full screens of quintuply nested exchanges to read a one-line quip, there's something wrong. I have no one in particular in mind, just a ge

Re: Password Manager SM 2..

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
JD wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: JD wrote: Rufus wrote: JD wrote: The password manager in SM version 2 sucks. Password Manager doesn't fill in the user name or password until I enter the start of it. V 1.1.18 filled it in when I went to a page that had a user name and/or password.. How

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I did have a silent unexpected Quit. Attributed to the Crash reporter System (still having got that thing right on Mac's always has caused crashes on Mozilla products on Mac). It actually causes crashes on Mac's Now I'll have to disable

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:54:29 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: 2) We already know now that 2.1 will not be able to import all the data from 1.x profiles like 2.0 can, as toolkit development removed some of the old import code already. That sounds a lot like

Re: Switching User Agent in SM2

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Cecil Bankston wrote: Is there a built-in function or a compatible addon (such as User Agent Switcher - not compatible with 2.0) that allows switching user agent in SM2 for those retarded sites that don't recognize Seamonk

Re: TVguide - third time

2009-10-28 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: I can think of three approaches: 1 - complain to webmasters to check for gecko 2 - permanently add "not Firefox" to UA string 3 - like popups and passwords, allow UA string custom per URL Now I have to go back and retry chromium, because I *

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If we have to scroll past three full screens of quintuply nested exchanges to read a one-line quip, there's something wrong. I have no one in particul

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If we have to scroll past three full screens of quintuply nested exchanges to read a one-line quip, there's something wrong. I ha

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I did have a silent unexpected Quit. Attributed to the Crash reporter System (still having got that thing right on Mac's always has caused crashes on Mozilla products on Mac). It actually causes crash

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/28/09 06:21 am, Jay Garcia wrote: Click in the user name field, then click in it again. It should give you a drop-down list of saved items. I think what Ed is talking about is that there is only ONE login/password for each site, not a list of logins/passwords that cov

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:44:54 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote: It does. As long as its running SM will crash. in SM 1 since I disabled the reporter I haven't had a Crash in years. SM2 the first time after going to SM2 Final then importing everything from 1.1.8 which wen

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/28/09 10:26 am, Phillip Jones wrote: Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it extensively. Acrobat also has a lot of security exploits (!). But related not to Java-script. A quick Google search suggests otherwise: http://www.404techsupport.com

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/28/09 10:26 am, Phillip Jones wrote: Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it extensively. Acrobat also has a lot of security exploits (!). But related not to Java-script. A quick Google search suggests otherwise: http://www.404techsupport.com

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I did have a silent unexpected Quit. Attributed to the Crash reporter System (still having got that thing right on Mac's always has caused crashes on Mozilla products on Mac

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Why are these people crossposting to both the mailing lists and all of the newsgroups that are apparently redirected to the mailing list, causing the receipt of multiple copies of messages, that some of us don't want? Because I messed up the original post

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - Starting new Threads for different issues

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: John Doue wrote: More realistically, would not it be better if users would start threads for specific issues related to SM 2.x, by mentioning "SM 2. Issue ..." in the subject line? Anything the moderators can do about this? You're right, that would be better, but that's co

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: They make Java work in Sandbox (whatever that is). Why can't Java-script. Look up what a sandbox in the context of computers is first so you know what you're talking about. I sort of know what it is I am just not a developer and technical

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/28/09 10:26 am, Phillip Jones wrote: Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it extensively. Acrobat also has a lot of security exploits (!). But related not to Java-script. A quick Google search

Re: Does Form Manager in 2.0 Work?

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 10/28/2009 03:20 AM, Tom Pamin wrote: Form Manager I've note used it, but: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/ A new form manager replaces all previous web form management, and automatically keeps a record of what you type into forms and presents you these o

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 10/20/2009 03:35 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If we have to scroll past three full screens of quintuply nested exchanges to read a one-line quip, there's something wrong. I have no one in particular in mind, just a general observation. Gotta love it... thread starts at 11 lines

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If we have to scroll past three full screens of quintuply nested exchanges to read a one

Re: Password Manager SM 2..

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: JD wrote: stango wrote: Evan Davidson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: JD wrote: Rufus wrote: JD wrote: /snip/ It was my experience with the older version that a very few web pages would not let Password Manager do it's thing and that's when the bookmarklet cam

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Chris Ilias wrote: On 09-10-29 8:05 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Philip Chee wrote: The crash reporter in 1.1 was called Talkback. The crash reporter in 2.0 is called, er, Crash Reporter. The latter is completely different code from a totally different source (google). Secondly, crash reporter

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: /snip/ To add insult to injury It crashed again a while ago this time as I was quitting it. Same pattern as before. I'll see if I can figure out where the

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 10/29/2009 05:25 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Steve Wendt wrote: On 10/28/09 10:26 am, Phillip Jones wrote: Java-script. Must not be too dangerous Adobe acrobat uses it extensively. Acrobat also has a lot of security exploits (!). But related not to Java-script. A quick

Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/29/2009 12:36 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote [in part]: I previously wrote [also in part]: On 10/29/2009 8:52 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote [in part]: I seem to have solved this for the time being by adding "Firefox/3.5.4" to the general.useragent.extra.seamonkey line in about:config

Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0

2009-10-29 Thread Phillip Jones
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm having trouble with my bank's billpay. They don't accept the SeaMonkey 2.0 browser, and it even crashes the browser. It used to be in SM 1.1.18 that I could spoof IE or Firefox (or even permanently change the User-Agent in the config file). But

Re: Form Manager Replacemenmt for 2.0?

2009-10-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Tom Pamin wrote: Has anyone found a good replacement to use with 2.0 for the now missing Form Manager from 1.18? Does Roboform work with 2.0? Is it similar to Form Manager? I sure hope developers rethink the removal of Form Manager from 1.18, and add it back to 2.0 Roboform don't work on Mac pl

Re: Let's prune, people, please!

2009-10-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I realize. Quote Collapse will not install

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-30 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 10/29/2009 05:50 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: ... Did you let the Mozilla Crash Reporter report the bug to Mozilla? If so, the crash ID should appear in about:crashes , and we can all have a look at the crash stack. Not the first time. the second time I did

Re: SM 2.0 Throbber

2009-10-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:56:34 -0700 (PDT), nr wrote: I've got my navigation toolbar showing small icons and the throbber is much smaller than when I have the icons regularly sized. Is there an easy way to make it larger, without using large icons? I'm using the SeaMonkey def

Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0

2009-10-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/29/2009 12:36 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote [in part]: /snip/ Is there a place to report such institutions that use browser sniffers. They shouldn't. Or to get them to sniff on gecko instead of a particular application?

Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0

2009-10-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: /snip/ I've been using Wachovia BillPay for years, first with the Mozilla suite and then with SeaMonkey, and I've never seen that message. And I don't spoof my UA. Currently on SM 1.1.16,

Re: How to stop Seamonkey 2.0 from downloading email automatically?

2009-10-31 Thread Phillip Jones
sambayer wrote: On Oct 30, 4:11 pm, u...@domain.invalid wrote: Click on edit just above the "get messages button" Then click on mail& newsgroups account settings then click server settings there you will see a check-box for " Automatically download new messages " Nope. Could the problem be th

Re: mailboxes/folders

2009-10-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Tim Mathews wrote: Just took Seamonkey for a test drive, liked it and except for one thing would consider making it my complete browser e-mail and news package. With all the ties to the other Mozilla programs and similarities, I'm wondering if there's a way to have my various inboxes show up top

Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!

2009-10-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Chris Ilias wrote: On 09-10-30 11:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: here is the item in the last crash: <http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-4a35ff2f-41ee-4e1e-8a8f-e0cc12091029> Okay, here's how to use about:crashes to assess the cause of a crash: 1. In the SeaMonkey br

Re: Software security Master Password

2009-10-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Gabriele wrote: HilsB ha scritto: First thanks to all for a great upgrade to SM2. I agree :) [cut] Now at each startup of SM2 'Master password required for Software security device' - no other passwords required after registering 1.1.18's mail / newsgroup passwords. My question - how to stop

Re: top/bottom post and sig

2009-10-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Jay Garcia wrote: On 31.10.2009 12:00, Rick Merrill wrote: --- Original Message --- I try to 'bottom post' to newsgroups but 'top reply' to email. But the sig file appears at the bottom of either. Is there a way to make sig-file follow the top/bottom post setting? Each "account" has it'

Re: about:config

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rick Merrill schrieb: Where might the settings in about:config be described? Couldn't find it in 'help' (SM 1.18). about:config is not designed to be an interface for normal users, and nothing that should either be documented without holes, it's more a graphical advanced

Re: Embedded flash videos loading failure under SM 2.0

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
User wrote: User wrote: > I tried it again by starting a new session of SM 2.0 after having > quitted the application. The embedded Flash video does not work again > and does not expand. It seems the problem occurs when the page is first > accessed after SM 2.0 start up, but somehow w

Re: SM 2.0 - more Mac user observations; Mail and News.

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rufus: 1) when opening/reviewing Mail and Newgroup account Settings, SM will sometimes replace the account name with my with multiple instances of the user name of the e-mail address in my Mail account. This seems to happen at random. Have seen that also once. Another us

Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Rufus wrote: Under 1.1.18 there was a pref selection for encryption vise obscuring of sensitive data during storage. Is it correct to assume that SM 2.0 now encrypts sensitive data by default, and with what strength? Strong 128 bit?..I hop

Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: 4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? Not having the choice of whether to use it. I've always had Java

Re: Strange SM2 behaviour

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/1/2009 6:18 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: Alex wrote: This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.ht

Re: Software security Master Password

2009-11-01 Thread Phillip Jones
Gabriele wrote: Phillip Jones ha scritto: Gabriele wrote: HilsB ha scritto: First thanks to all for a great upgrade to SM2. I agree :) [cut] Now at each startup of SM2 'Master password required for Software security device' - no other passwords required after registering 1.1

Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

2009-11-02 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.0? If so, then it's a real bug. Robe

Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.

2009-11-02 Thread Phillip Jones
NoOp wrote: On 11/02/2009 06:21 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: robert.ga...@att.net wrote: Well it certainly is supported even if it is not advisable. Just look at the entry in about:config. javascript.allow.mailnews default boolean false That one shouldn't exist there - you're sure it exists in 2.

Re: Software security Master Password

2009-11-02 Thread Phillip Jones
Gabriele wrote: Rufus ha scritto: Phillip Jones wrote: Gabriele wrote: [cut] Gabriele for Mac only: SeaMonkey Menu> Preferences> Privacy& Security> Master password choose The first time its needed. It's already set this way, but still SM it's asking for th

Re: Strange SM2 behaviour

2009-11-02 Thread Phillip Jones
Chris Ilias wrote: On 09-11-02 10:43 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 11/1/2009 11:12 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 09-11-02 1:48 AM, Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: There is a serious inconsistency in how Password Manager works. See bug #525737 at<ht

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