Re: [Sursound] S(PACE) Symposium

2011-01-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
hi dylan! On 01/25/2011 12:08 AM, Dylan Menzies wrote: > Also we are looking for people interested in presenting. If this is you > please contact me with a brief summary of what you would like to talk > about and any questions. There are some funds to support this. i could talk about recording

[Sursound] S(PACE) Symposium

2011-01-24 Thread Dylan Menzies
An afternoon symposium on the use of use of spatial sound techniques in music will be taking place at De Montfort University, Leicester UK on Wednesday 4th May. It will feature talks from members of the Music Technology and Innovation Group and from outside. The idea is intersperse the talks w

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread fons
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:47:25AM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > it does not correspond to any particular point on the sphere, but it > is a sample nonetheless. Yes, a sample in the spectral domain. > when explaining that to students, i often > use an image analogy: > when i want to transmi

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Eero Aro
Keith Howard's article on Trifield is also in the Motherlode: http://decoy.iki.fi/dsound/ambisonic/motherlode/source/Trifield1.pdf Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] AMB Playback

2011-01-24 Thread Bill de Garis
Thankyou Justin and Ronald, interesting gear but way out of my price range. The Halo anyway. I'm currently trying to work up the courage to spend a bunch of $$ on a mid to high end shotgun mic. It would be nice though to be able to listen to surround without having to burn a dvd rw. Getting i

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Martin Leese
Eero Aro wrote: > J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: >> in theory, you can. in practice, you can't, because you'd have to know >> what stereo technique was used during recording > > Yes you can. > > Just one word: Trifield. Steven Dive wrote: ... > I understand that Trifield is derived from the same gro

[Sursound] Fwd: Re: 3rd International Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics

2011-01-24 Thread Paul Doornbusch
--- begin forwarded text From: Erika Olsen <eol...@engr.uky.edu> Date: January 18, 2011 1:34:13 PM EST Subject: 3rd International Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics 3rd International Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics June 2-3, 2011 Lex

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Svein Berge
nfigurations like ortf or ab. However... spaced microphone configurations on the input (which was the context of this discussion) is more difficult. I've put some work into it, but haven't got anything to show for it yet. Svein -- next part -- An HTML attachment was

Re: [Sursound] AMB Playback

2011-01-24 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
On 24 Jan 2011, at 13:04, Justin Bennett wrote: > I use an RME fireface audio interface. It has a built in Matrix mixer which > allows you to route and mix any software output (or hardware input) to > any hardware output. Because you have quite fine control over the > mix levels and you can flip t

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Andrew Levine
Hi Daniel, On 24.01.2011, at 18:55, Daniel Courville wrote: > Le 11-01-24 10:23, Andrew Levine a écrit : >> I imagine it would require quite a complex piece of software that could >> differentiate sound sources by grouping their spectral components, >> reconstruct the original positions and then r

Re: [Sursound] AMB Playback

2011-01-24 Thread Justin Bennett
On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: From: Bill de Garis Subject: [Sursound] AMB Playback To: Surround Sound discussion group Message-ID: <4d3c6a88.2050...@dgvo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 23/01/2011 5:25 a.m., Justin Bennett

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Daniel Courville
Le 11-01-24 10:23, Andrew Levine a écrit : >I imagine it would require quite a complex piece of software that could >differentiate sound sources by grouping their spectral components, >reconstruct the original positions and then recreate a LCR-soundstage. Hum... Probably Svein Berge's HARPEX proc

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
On 24 Jan 2011, at 08:36, Eero Aro wrote: > I agree that UHJ can be useful for certain single productions, but when > somebody is here on the list asking about Ambisonic decoding, in my > opinion you should give realistic answers. The realistic answer is that stereo, with over-compressed dynamics

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 01/24/2011 02:36 PM, Eero Aro wrote: (Ordinary) people use the AV amplifier which they already have in their livingroom. The amplifier has Dolby Digital and DTS. People are not going to buy an Ambisonic decoder. The late Mark Decker at the BBC didn't raise a citizen movement either, and he re

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Andrew Levine
Hi Steven, On 24.01.2011, at 15:31, Steven Dive wrote: > I almost never see any info on recording techniques on record labels and I > can't foresee any record labels ever stating which microphone techniques were > used. DMP Digital Music Products used to do so when they ere in existance, Sheffi

Re: [Sursound] 3D audio event in Italy

2011-01-24 Thread Luigi Agostini
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Re: [Sursound] 3D audio event in Italy (Sampo Syreeni)

2011-01-24 Thread Luigi Agostini
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Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Steven Dive
From my perspective as a home user of a commercial home surround decoder (Ambisonic UHJ, Trifield, Dolby etc.), I almost never see any info on recording techniques on record labels and I can't foresee any record labels ever stating which microphone techniques were used. The manual for my Me

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Eero Aro
Phew! We have had this discussion before. Should dig the threads from Sursound archives. Never mind, here we go: Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: i beg to differ. it is still very useful. > i have done all my client's productions in HOA, even if they weren't interested > in any other target format t

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Eero Aro
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: in theory, you can. in practice, you can't, because you'd have to know what stereo technique was used during recording Yes you can. Just one word: Trifield. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 01/24/2011 05:57 AM, Robert Greene wrote: Actually, I think the remarks below represent a bit of a misconception about stereo playback. In actuality, if one used more speakers one could make stereo playback better in the sense that one could widen the spot in which it sounded reasonably corre

Re: [Sursound] Why do you need to decode ambisonic/b format signals ?

2011-01-24 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 23 January 2011 16:48 +0200 Eero Aro wrote: In my opinion, you can skip the on-going discussion about UHJ, I tend to agree, when considered as a carrier for (2D) surround - there are simply no facilities out there to make use of it - even computer decoding requires nerdy setup at prese