[Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
I've got a couple of installations that require a standalone device that will play 8 or more channels (octophonic mixes so all tracks need to be played simultaneously) can anyone think of an affordable standalone player ? The museum staff will not know anything about audio technology so preferably

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-09 Thread Janne Auvinen
Alexandre Rocca writes: > Yes, the device play 1 to 16 channel simultaneously without computer >(in loop) from an USB stick. see page 21 and 22 and the manual). > > > > A voire > > ++ > Alexandre > > -- next part -- -- Just to clarify the loping track count for

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-10 Thread Charlie Richmond
On 9 December 2014 at 21:53, Janne Auvinen wrote: > > I myself would prefer the AudioBox 2 for being absolutely sure > about its reliability. Or QLab, if the budget is tight and running > the system from a computer is OK with the museum. > thanks very much for the vote and recommendation, Janne!

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Chapman
> Alexandre Rocca writes: > >> Yes, the device play 1 to 16 channel simultaneously without computer >>(in loop) from an USB stick. see page 21 and 22 and the manual). >> > > Just to clarify the loping track count for the future searches, > the A&H ICE-16 manual does NOT tell that it can loop 16 c

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-10 Thread Janne Auvinen
Janne Auvinen writes: > > Alexandre Rocca ...> writes: > > > Yes, the device play 1 to 16 channel simultaneously without computer > >(in loop) from an USB stick. see page 21 and 22 and the manual). > > > > > > > > A voire > > > > ++ > > Alexandre > > > > -- next part -

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Chapman
>> > > > Just got a confirmation from A&H. It doesn't play several > tracks in loop mode. Loop mode only > works with two channel audio. > > "Abspielmodi: single,continuous,random,song loop,album loop" at IIRC the manuals are available in English regardles

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-13 Thread Louis Mustill
Not used it myself but this might be of interest. They make lovely kit generally. http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ - *Louis Mustill - Founder & Director* Artists & Engineers lo...@artistsandengineers.co.uk 07870 335 851 On 10 December 2014 at 11:42, Michael Chapman wrote: > > > >> > >

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-13 Thread David Pickett
At 00:54 14-12-14, Louis Mustill wrote: >Not used it myself but this might be of interest. >They make lovely kit generally. > >http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ > I should hope so at $4,629.00! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044277-REG/sound_devices_970_64_track_dante_and_madi.ht

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 07:30:17 +0100, David Pickett wrote: > At 00:54 14-12-14, Louis Mustill wrote: > >Not used it myself but this might be of interest. > >They make lovely kit generally. > > > >http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ > > I should hope so at $4,629.00! > > http://www.bhphoto

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-14 Thread umashankar manthravadi
08:04:35 -0500 > From: m...@hacklava.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ? > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 07:30:17 +0100, David Pickett wrote: > > At 00:54 14-12-14, Louis Mustill wrote: > > >Not used it myself but this might be of

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
ight now but not 24 bit. does it matter ? umashankar I believe that 16bit is more than enough for home reproduction. -- Marc > > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:04:35 -0500 > > From: m...@hacklava.net > > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ? &

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-14 Thread sonart
t 48 k is possible > right now but not 24 bit. does it matter ? umashankar I believe that 16bit is more than enough for home reproduction. -- Marc > > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:04:35 -0500 > > From: m...@hacklava.net > > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > > Subjec

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-18 Thread mick ritchie
Any links to this pi and usb sound module options? mick On 14 Dec 2014, at 13:04, Marc Lavallée wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 07:30:17 +0100, David Pickett wrote: > At 00:54 14-12-14, Louis Mustill wrote: >> Not used it myself but this might be of interest. >> They make lovely kit generally. >> >>

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-18 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Mick. The general idea is to combine a RPI and a USB sound module the same way we can use a computer and a sound module, but specialized as a multichannel player. The RPI can be replaced with many ARM based computer, including phones and tablets. The advantage of using a USB sound module is tha

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-18 Thread Ben Bloomberg
Hi Mick, The RPI tends to have poor performance on it's USB bus and that makes it hard to do interesting audio things. Playback may be fine, any other kind of DSP starts to cause issues. If you can, use the Beaglebone instead. It's a much improved version of the pi.

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2015-01-12 Thread PerMagnus Lindborg (Asst Prof)
I'm happy using the MemSolution WavePlayers for fixed media playback (incl. shuffle play), works well with 3 chained devices giving 24 channels in synch. They also sell a board kit http://www.memsolution.com/. /pm --- Next: January 30 - February 8: "2wentyYears" @ National Design Centre, Singapo

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-09 Thread Alexandre Rocca
Hi, There is the Allen & Heath ICE-16 sound card. 16 channels player and recorder, in standalone. I don't test it, so... Cheers, Alexandre Le 9 févr. 2013 à 22:24, Augustine Leudar a écrit : > I've got a couple of installations that require a standalone device that > will play 8 or more chan

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
that looks reasonable thanks - so let me just double check - this can play all 16 tracks simultaneously in sync ? On 10 February 2013 00:08, Alexandre Rocca wrote: > Hi, > > There is the Allen & Heath ICE-16 sound card. 16 channels player and > recorder, in standalone. > > I don't test it, so...

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
without On 10 February 2013 00:21, Augustine Leudar wrote: > that looks reasonable thanks - so let me just double check - this can play > all 16 tracks simultaneously in sync ? > > On 10 February 2013 00:08, Alexandre Rocca wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> There is the Allen & Heath ICE-16 sound card. 16 ch

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
without a computer (ie its not just an interface) with just a usb stick ? On 10 February 2013 00:23, Augustine Leudar wrote: > without > > > On 10 February 2013 00:21, Augustine Leudar wrote: > >> that looks reasonable thanks - so let me just double check - this can >> play all 16 tracks simultan

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Eero Aro
I happened to search for similar players some time ago. I found these: http://www.alcorn.com/products/8traxx/ http://www.brightsign.biz/index.php I was also looking at Egreat media players: http://www.egreatworld.com/cn/ ...for some reason the English page doesn't seem to open right now. Some of

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Oli Larkin
it's a shame the IO are unbalanced on that Allen & Heath On 10 Feb 2013, at 00:59, Augustine Leudar wrote: > without a computer (ie its not just an interface) with just a usb stick ? > > On 10 February 2013 00:23, Augustine Leudar wrote: > >> without >> >> >> On 10 February 2013 00:21, Augus

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Dave Malham
Interesting - so I wasn't the only one who spotted the market niche for this sort of thing, wished I'd gotten on with my design :-( Dave On 10 February 2013 10:32, Oli Larkin wrote: > it's a shame the IO are unbalanced on that Allen & Heath > > > On 10 Feb 2013, at 00:59, Augustine Leudar wr

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
That doesn't really matter for my application if they're unbalanced as the distances involved arent big enough to pick up significant nosie - but I still can't work out if it will let me play all 8 tracks simultaneously - the documentatin isnt clear. The 8-trax thing is $3000 and doesnt play simul

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
Yes - for public venues - no museum/gallery etc is going to want their staff to be operating a computer - so for permanent multichannel audio installations, whether they be ambisonic or otherwise, a standalone device capable of playing multiple tracks simultaneously is the only option. So anyone kn

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Oli Larkin
On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:05, Augustine Leudar wrote: > I m > even thinking the best idea would be to use a apple mini and a motu > soundcard. If I can program the apple mini to open an eight channel max > patch in runltime upon starting is should just work by pressing the on > button - I can then ju

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
perhaps.. a PC would better On 10 February 2013 11:16, Oli Larkin wrote: > > On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:05, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > > I m > > even thinking the best idea would be to use a apple mini and a motu > > soundcard. If I can program the apple mini to open an eight channel max > > pat

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Michael Chapman
> Interesting - so I wasn't the only one who spotted the market niche > for this sort of thing, wished I'd gotten on with my design :-( > Still a market(?) for one with a low channel count and which can be used in groups with (?)GPS sync between them ... ... Go modular ... Michael

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Eero Aro
There are standalone multichannel recorders from several manufacturers, such as this: http://www.joeco.co.uk/main/BBR_models.html And portable multichannel recorders such as this: http://www.sounddevices.com/products/788t/images/ ...and even more channels from other manufacturers. The portables

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Eero Aro
http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/products/D2424LV_Mk2.shtml#2 dunno the price 24 analog out Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
Hi, Thanks for the info. The thing is I dont need a recorder but a playback device - obviously devices that can record 8 channels can usually play them back as well but due to the added features (that I dont need for this project) tend to be more costly. I have decided to go the motu ultralite sou

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Eero Aro
The thing is I dont need a recorder but a playback device I have understood that. I was also looking for a similar playback device for an installation some time ago. As you see, there aren't too many, so I also looked at the recorders. - obviously devices that can record 8 channels can usually

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
Thanks Eero , I know what you mean about reliability. I think if the computer is disconected from the internet with a stripped down operating system that isnt trying to update itself , connected to the internet or even without a keyboard mouse and monitor (so noone can fiddle) it should be ok. The

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Alexandre Rocca
Hi, About Allen & Heath ICE-16 sound card. 16 channels player and recorder, in standalone Le 10 févr. 2013 à 01:59, Augustine Leudar a écrit : > that looks reasonable thanks - so let me just double check - this can play > all 16 tracks simultaneously in sync without a computer (ie its not just a

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
Thanks for that ! On 10 February 2013 16:57, Alexandre Rocca wrote: > Hi, > > About Allen & Heath ICE-16 sound card. 16 channels player and recorder, in > standalone > Le 10 févr. 2013 à 01:59, Augustine Leudar a écrit : > > that looks reasonable thanks - so let me just double check - this can >

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread hans w. koch
: > Message: 17 > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:16:04 + > From: Oli Larkin > Subject: Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ? > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Message-ID: <3914ac68-7ce9-4e77-8d08-255888711...@googlemail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="is

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
ans-w-koch.net > > > > > > Am 10.02.2013 um 18:00 schrieb sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu: > > > Message: 17 > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:16:04 + > > From: Oli Larkin > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ? > > To: Surround Sound discussi

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Doornbusch
mbine the individual into > 12channel aiff files. works a treat. > > hth > hans > > www.hans-w-koch.net > > > > > > Am 10.02.2013 um 18:00 schrieb sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu: > >> Message: 17 >> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:16:04 + &

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-10 Thread Len Moskowitz
JoeCo Blackbox Player Up to 64 channels of 24/96. http://www.joeco.co.uk/main/BBP_introduction.html Sweetwater has it for US$3395. Front End Audio has it for US$3295. Or perhaps you could use two Tascam DR-680s recorders. They use SD cards and more than one can be sync'ed. Each one has six Lin

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-11 Thread Peter Lennox
sity of Derby, UK e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk t: 01332 593155 -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Augustine Leudar Sent: 10 February 2013 11:06 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel pla

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-11 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:56:25AM +, Peter Lennox wrote: > That doesn't really matter for my application if they're unbalanced > as the distances involved arent big enough to pick up significant nosie > - but I still can't work out if it will let me play all 8 tracks > simultaneously - the

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-11 Thread John Leonard
Just for historical interest, I designed and installed a system for Tussauds New York which initially used eight of Richmond Sound Design's AudioBox system to cover the entire exhibition, with many multiple, synchronised tracks. The entire system, including video playback and lighting was turned

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-11 Thread Augustine Leudar
Hi, I'm probably going use a motu ultralite soundcard with a mini pc with stripped down windows or linux - I've already written my own software that plays interleaved files so I don't need to buy any 3rd party software - I was just curious to see what standalone devices were out there. The whole sy

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-11 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:17 AM, John Leonard wrote: > Just for historical interest, I designed and installed a system for > Tussauds New York which initially used eight of Richmond Sound Design's > AudioBox system to cover the entire exhibition, with many multiple, > synchronised tracks. The enti

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2013-02-11 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/11/2013 01:17 PM, John Leonard wrote: If that system's a bit too complex and expensive for you, you could look at Figure 53's QLab MacOS-based playback system as a lower-cost alternative: it'll play multi-channel interleaved .WAV files, which makes sure that your files are sample accurate,