take a piece of garden hose. hold up both ends and let the rest lie on the
ground, as it will.
now fill it with water, leaving the water a few inches off each end.
the pressure pushing on the water at each end of the hose is the same =
atmospheric.
now gently blow on one end (just this once...(
1) hot exhaust air going through the airstone, which is the heart of the
fogger, will dissolve the airstone.
2) using exhaust gases as a source of pressure for the fogger implies
drilling, etc, and also a 'hard' line (metal) connection to the fogger, due
to high temps. might also have to re-route
1) i find that glycerol, after the excess alky evaporates, makes a passable
soap. wonder if anybody in the list has tried filtering, neutralizing,
coloring, and scenting it, for use as 'liquid soap' ? (i must try this
someday !!)
what would be the pros and cons ?
tickell mentions turning glycero
Robert,
Point taken and noted.
Which brings me to another point. Has anyone out there ever had anything to
do with Ray Covey's Vapour Carburetion Conversion Systems? Do they know much
about them and did they ever really work properly? Believe with the Mark 5
system he managed to obtai
Hi Tim,
Sorry I cant help and must plead ignorance. What is an ICE? Also
re seals I am sure there is someone far more knowledgeable than me who has
had hands on experience with the Cummins.
If you are trying to get more mpg I suggest you research some of the patents
that have been file
Thanks for THAT tip Robert!! I'll remember that!
-TZ
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] back to basics
>
>
> Tim Zarbo wrote:
>
> > David,
> >
> > My real question is have you or anyone e
Nice logo!
Only problem: It looks like you're sucking the fuel out of the earth... like
dino-diesel!
May I recommend going back to the original logo and replacing the earth with
a plant or tree? That would be more accurate.
Perhaps the nozzle could tap directly into the stem, and then fee
Is it safe to use a domestic central heating pump for biod mixing?
Thanks
Ian
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> Unfortunately, I was testing the device one day and accidentally
squirted a bit
> of water into the manifold when the engine wasn't running.
>
> When I cranked the machine over the next morning, it
went "BANG!" I en
>
> Alan,
>
> That's 1,058 #s external pressure. But there is also "negative" pressure
> between the plates
>
> Doesn't this mean that (external pressure x external surface area) +
> (internal "negative" pressure x internal surface area) = total force needed
> to sever the two plates?"
It's bee
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> David,
>
> My real question is have you or anyone else here on the list, seen or heard
> of a water injection system used on an ICE?(I have an 1999 dodge ram that
> gets about 12-14 MPG(16 on a REALLY good tank on the hiway with the cruise
> control on! ;) I was considering t
Well...you almost heard it here first.
According to the second of our Commander in Thief King George II, Dick Cheney
has proclaimed that "Conservation may be a virtue, but it is not sound energy
policy."
In an era where the social, economic and environmental cost of fossil and
nuclear fuels i
David,
I was intrigued by your father's story (I really enjoy hearing family
stories I think there are important lessons to still be learned from our
older generations.)
My real question is have you or anyone else here on the list, seen or heard
of a water injection system used on an ICE?(I have a
Each variation is nice in it's own respect, but I really like this one:
http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/biodleaf.jpg
-TZ :)
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> Ok following E
Hi Y'all I'm new, just gonna play 'catch-up' and ghost a while. :)
I like it Ian :)
-Tim Z
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> Hi all
> This came into my head yesterday so I made a
"anton and federica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note that in a turbocharged engine, the intake prussure goes from
> negative yo positive as the turbo spools up under load; i have read about
> ethanol injection to cool intake temp and use ethanol / water mixes at all
> concentrations simply by
> That's because if you figure the plates have about 72"^2 of surface area
> and atmospheric pressure is 14.7psi then the atmosphere is holding the
> plates together with 1058 pounds of force.
..
Alan,
That's 1,058 #s external pressure. But there is also "negative" pressure
between the p
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> In a message dated 04/30/2001 5:37:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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>
>
> > *now, if you were to add a venturi tube BEFORE the throttle plate, you would
> > have a source of vacuum to operate your fogger with. but this, although
> > feasible
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: fogger questions
>
> An engine is nothing more than an air pump try putting your hand over the
> mouth of the carburetor on the filter side and tell me that atmospheric
> pressure is pulling your hand in.
There is an interesting piece of demonstration equ
I'm liking it!
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David,
Unfortunately the only way to purify it properly and get an
absolutely pure product is with distillation. Commercial processors use
other screening and filtering processes such as fullers earth which gets rid
of some of the gunk but to get it really pure they still need distillati
> From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: fogger questions
>
> I am located at 36.6 degrees South and also at sea level.
>
> *south island ?
No North Island, 40 km by road north of Auckland on the Whangaparaoa
Peninsular. I look directly south across the water and can see the sky t
Soap production sounds a little more promising.
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> > David Cruse
> ...
> David,
>
> Here's the skinny on glycerin.
>
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So, are you planning to use them to filter the biodiesel then?
;-)
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> I recently bought a couple pair of hemp shorts.
>
>
>
>
> Biofuel at
> Does anyone know a process that can be
> used to purify the glycerin produced in the
> biodiesel reaction into a pure or high grade
> glycerol ? High grade glycerol has a much
> better market value than the crude ( 80-88% )
> glycerin you get with standard bi
I recently bought a couple pair of hemp shorts.
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Coastal Properties Management marketed biodiesel (produced by NOPEC Corp.)
at eight
marina locations throughout the bay area. This involved the placement of
refueling tanks
at each site.
Don't know if the program is still running.
http://www.ott.doe.gov/biofuels/biodiesel/research_progress/2443
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Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:32:15 -0400
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biodiesel is sold commercially in Chesapeake bay marinas.
Hold on. really? I live in the Chesapeake Bay area, bu
Exactly. Especially as I am aware that most of us, myself included, consider
ourselves to be just a bit weird, but don't traffic in lies and gossip.
Found JIM's comments completely befuddling.
> JIM,
>
> The following response was aimed in your direction after your sharp bite
at
> wellb
JIM,
The following response was aimed in your direction after your sharp bite at
wellby looking at the previous threads, no one is quite sure or
relative to exactly what.
>what and who are you referring to? please keep enough the original message
so we know what the reply is about.
[Yo
I drive an 81 300SD but have not been able to get any biodiesel fuel. Will
convert when I can.
I don't find that the Benz is all that expensive to maintain. and the older
ones are quite basic and easy to work on.
My car has about 95000 miles and I got it from the oroginal owner, got all
the docume
BlankHi Folks,
Does anyone know a process that can be
used to purify the glycerin produced in the
biodiesel reaction into a pure or high grade
glycerol ? High grade glycerol has a much
better market value than the crude ( 80-88% )
glycerin you get with stand
What and who are you talking to? Do I even know to respond to this message?
-JIM
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biofuels.
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Hey! I'll help, I'd love to, but I'm in Georgia... Any logistics problems?
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You're weird, sir. Why don't you back up what you say with some facts, for
those of us who don't thrive on lies and gossip...
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> "From the fryer to the fuel tank" mentions oil
> production at 305 kg/hectare,
> but not the number of crops per season. Is that
> total for season, or for
> crop?
I think it's per crop but not sure, Anyone?
Tha
Visual inferences a bit abstruse, but I am not an art critic.
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As a designer myself, I had another idea. I will see if I can put it
together in the next couple of days.
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> I'd like to se
Geo position is a bit of a problem.
Ive tried not to follow any biased landmass position.
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> Sun looks very good!
>
> Thought... And no,
Fellows BD'ers,
Anyone with experience of the Land Rover 2 1/4 litre diesel engine with
either straight veg oil and/or biodiesel? Failing that, Sherpa 2.5 diesel.
Any changes to seals and/or timing required. Any info appreciated. Same as
yours Keith, Lightweight 2.25 petrol in need of transplant (
Sun looks very good!
Thought... And no, it didn't hurt.
A vine of leafy and "floral matter wrapped around the hose?
When reproduced poster size, the vegetation could get seriously detailed
with boatloads of different oil species entwined.
And all you would have to do to make the logo "geo-poli
Ok following Eds very wise advice, Ive put our Sun in the background
http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/biodleaf.jpg
Heres another small change to the format
http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/biodsun.jpg
Let me know.
Ian
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I'd like to see a couple of different options to compare elements.
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Thanks Ed
I'll see what i can do.
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> Ian - I quite like it. Constructive criticism, I guess, would include that
seems it would be easy to attach a pressure guage to the exhaust and find
out. Note that in a turbocharged engine, the intake prussure goes from
negative yo positive as the turbo spools up under load; i have read about
ethanol injection to cool intake temp and use ethanol / water mixes at all
conc
Ian - I quite like it. Constructive criticism, I guess, would include that
there is no representation of the sun's influence as the actual source of
energy that is simply "carried"
by plants, plant oils, biodiesel. You can produce biodiesel without soil,
but not without sun.
When I was presenting
> extraction operation stand-alone profitable, and also enable the
> profitable production of biodiesel at prices comparable to with
> crude-oil-diesel.
Wow, just found a soybean extractor with 5 silos on 3 acres for a
very very decent price. Also has a pellitizer for making feed and
pellet
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<< Meanwhile, let's figure out how to physically tap into this pressure source
without spoiling any expensive bits. How much pressure is there in the
exhaust? How does it vary with revs and throttle setting
Hi all
This came into my head yesterday so I made a quick sketch.
If anyone disagrees to its format, please let me know. If the idea dosnt clash
with anyone elses and critical acclaim is not given, well I'll just use it
myself
Thanks all.
Heres the link http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/Biodlog1
Ben,
That's a smart idea, but I'll bet somebody will come along with all the
reasons why not.
Meanwhile, let's figure out how to physically tap into this pressure source
without spoiling any expensive bits. How much pressure is there in the
exhaust? How does it vary with revs and throttle setting
raw rape oil is 17,370 btu/lb gross.
soydiesel is listed at 17,650 BTU/lb
all oils are going to be in that ballpark IIRC.
differences are marginal.
I was going to refer you to http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org but they seem
to be MIA. Pity.
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Hi Munir,
I know Malaysia quite well, used to visit Ulu Perak every year (tin mining &
small hydro) and Sabah a couple of times. It may be that during your humid
monsoon seasons there may be not much benefit from the fogger, but the hot
dry season could be a different story. Anyway, it will be g
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