[biofuel] Burning graphite

2001-07-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Kirk wrote: "Carbon or graphite moderated cores have a fatal flaw. If it catches fire you are in deep do do." This rather begs the question, doesn't it? If the graphite burns, it's because air has entered the core - and if that has happened you ALREADY have a far more serious problem than a bur

[biofuel] Antitank missile vs. nuclear reactor

2001-07-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Mati Kokk wrote: "But can these reactors withstand terrorist attacks with modern anti-tank missiles? Or attacks with nuclear missiles?" Bring on all the antitank missiles you want - several meters of steel-reinforced, prestressed concrete containment, plus several inches of high-grade steel, p

Re: New Paint - Same Nukes was Re: [biofuel] Nuclear

2001-07-25 Thread Pat McCotter
The other nuclear reactors not operated by humans: Oklo, Gabon. http://www.curtin.edu.au/curtin/centre/waisrc/OKLO/index.shtml >From: "bob golding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: Re: New Paint - Same Nukes was Re: [biofuel] Nuclear >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 200

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread doctor who
My point is that when you wrap a EV around a tree or have a serious accident there is the potential for a Hazmat situation (drip or no drip it's still acid and hydrogen), electrocution or electrical fire. Whereas compressed air is just that. Sweep up the pieces and go. I'm still looking for so

[biofuel] Clear Energy

2001-07-25 Thread Pedro M.
Biodiesel it«s not a clear energy. Nuclear it«s. Santiago Alonso, Director of the Forum of the Nuclear Industry of Spain, has said that the nuclear energy industries doesn«t agree with the treatment of the Nuclear Energy in the Bonn Climate Conference, because all the clear energies, that don«t p

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread Pat McCotter
cordain, Thank you for that post on the comparative safety. The Scott air packs are a very safe item. Yes, I would like the air powered car, also. Because the technology is not available at this time, though, I am at present putting aside money for my EV conversion. For the very reasons you p

[biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Pedro M.
Where direct the money and the public resources, to nuclear-fossil energy or to renowable biofuels ???. This is the kernel of the problem, in Europe ( Loyola de Palacio, Comissioner of the EU), United States ( Bush Plan ), and so on. Have we a response for this problem ??. For sure, it«s the que

[biofuel] Why biofuels ???

2001-07-25 Thread Pedro M.
It has just been created nuclear-fossil-dangers in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nuclear-fossil-dangers where we can send post about the new energy politics and their dangers, like a base for an alternative answer : the biofuels, biodiesel and renowable energy. A place for deep questions ;) All

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Edward Beggs
> "Have we a response for this problem ??. For sure, it«s the question of the > future of biofuels" Aye. I agree with Pedro. The money will go to the most effective lobbying , more dedicated to nuclear means less for renewables research. Nuclear has had its chance, and share of the public treasu

Re: [biofuel] Re: Microprocessing of soybean oil to biodiesel

2001-07-25 Thread Steven Hobbs
Cordain, yes I have thought of the idea of having seed "toll pressed" or on contract if you would prefer. The main problems are 1)tonnage, I've approached a mill and they suggested a parcel between 5000 to 10,000 tonnes! 2)There aren't many extraction mills to choose from in Australia and seen to

[biofuel] G8 Renewable Energy report

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.renewabletaskforce.org/default.asp G8 Renewable Energy Taskforce Homepage http://www.renewabletaskforce.org/report.asp Report download We would be most interested to hear any comments you have about the report, please do so by going to the Notice Board page. The Notice Board page ha

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Pedro Suggestion. See "G8 Renewable Energy report". Go to the link, answer the 10 questions, and tell 'em we need a UN Renewable Energy Agency. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ "Pedro M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Where direct th

Re: [biofuel] Re: Microprocessing of soybean oil to biodiesel

2001-07-25 Thread Christopher S. Weller
Sorry for all the questions I'm an engineer not a farmer. I'm trying to gain a better understanding of the governments role in preventing food surplus and trying not to affect gross market value in the process. Cheers, Cordain Dulles, VA Okay I'm stupid but with people starving h

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
> > "Have we a response for this problem ??. For sure, it«s the question of >the > > future of biofuels" > >Aye. I agree with Pedro. The money will go to the most effective lobbying , >more dedicated to nuclear means less for renewables research. Nuclear has >had its chance, and share of the publ

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Pedro M.
That«s for sure, I will do. But, think for a moment, that you are the President of the U.S. and your ideas are help the nuclear-fossil industries, like you said in you plans. And that you recieve a suggestion like the send here, from the Forum of Nuclear Industry, that could give money for the e

Re: [biofuel] G8 Renewable Energy report

2001-07-25 Thread Pedro M.
What«s the politic of Shell relationg Renowable energy ( biodiesel ) . Does it sell biodiesel in its fuel-stations ???'. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: [biofuel] G8 Renewable Ene

Re: [biofuel] G8 Renewable Energy report

2001-07-25 Thread Edward Beggs
They plan to sell photovoltaics to an identified 1 billion customers who currently do not have electricity, want it, and currently pay for kerosene or diesel at the same monthly price Shell Renewables will charge them for a solar PV system on their roof. They make PV systems affordable by billing

[biofuel] Shell Renewables

2001-07-25 Thread Edward Beggs
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[biofuel] Shell - South Africa PV pilot

2001-07-25 Thread Edward Beggs
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[biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
"doctor who" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > High pressure tanks do not fail randomly. A negelected or non-annually > inspected tank will fail at random. This is the fault of the operator not > the tank. A regularly inspected properly functioning tank (relief valve or > relief tube functioning)

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Keith and All, --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Have we a response for this problem ??. For > sure, it´s the question of > >the > > > future of biofuels" > > > >Aye. I agree with Pedro. The money will go to the > most effective lobbying , > >more dedicated to nuclear mea

Re: [biofuel] Nuclear

2001-07-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
Maybe so, maybe not, but it's irrelevant --- the basic problem with nukes as far as I can see, and the reason I will *always* absolutely oppose all of them, no matter what the design, is the human factor. Someone else mentioned the terrorist problem, which is a a growing threat, but the botto

Re: [biofuel] Nuclear

2001-07-25 Thread monteoro
Marc, Matti, Thats right, why don't they... and when the reactor is old and unusable already they can just fill it up with molten glass and let it stand there buried. Nice disposal technique ofcourse its location would have to be in granite or a place far away from ground water sources. Ken C

Re: [biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Cordain and All, --- doctor who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point is that when you wrap a EV around a tree or > have a serious accident > there is the potential for a Hazmat situation (drip > or no drip it's still > acid and hydrogen), electrocution or electrical > fire. Whereas comp

Re: [biofuel] Nuclear

2001-07-25 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Why is it that most things American on this list are automatically named as 'EVIL'? American's can produce good cars, as others have said it is the subsidy and corporate welfare that keeps fuel so cheap, I know fuel price increases would aggravate me and everyone else in the US but it's the only w

Re: [biofuel] G8 Renewable Energy report

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
>They plan to sell photovoltaics to an identified 1 billion customers who >currently do not have electricity, want it, and currently pay for kerosene >or diesel at the same monthly price Shell Renewables will charge them for a >solar PV system on their roof. They make PV systems affordable by bill

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Pedro >That«s for sure, I will do. But, think for a moment, that you are the >President of the U.S. and your ideas are help the nuclear-fossil >industries, like you said in you plans. And that you recieve a suggestion >like the send here, from the Forum of Nuclear Industry, that could give >

Re: [biofuel] G8 Renewable Energy report

2001-07-25 Thread Ed Beggs
Uh...good point. I think PV is sort of inferior, anyway, to growing some biofuel and running the old Lister/Perkins/Series/Rabbit or whatever on it for another 100 years. Ed > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:27:21 +0900 >

Re: [biofuel] Where direct the money

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jerry > Hi Keith and All, >--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Have we a response for this problem ??. For > > sure, it´s the question of > > >the > > > > future of biofuels" > > > > > >Aye. I agree with Pedro. The money will go to the > > most effective lobbying , > > >m

[biofuel] Millennium Cell

2001-07-25 Thread Tim Castleman
http://www.millenniumcell.com "Millennium Cell is a development stage company focused on the generation of a new, clean, abundant and renewable source of energy. Millennium Cell's patented boron-based energy technology delivers a hydrogen fuel that is safe, clean and easily transported, withou

[biofuel] acrolein--propenol as a substitute for methanol?

2001-07-25 Thread gjkimlin
Acrolein is the alcohol of propene (ie propanol with a carbon double bond) and is the breakdown product of glycerol as you distill it at 290C. Addition of acid(Conc. H2SO4) to glycerol may accellerate the break-down. The acrolein can be retrieved with the same reflux still used to reclaim unu

[biofuel] RE: air car's indirect pollution vs EV's

2001-07-25 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
"doctor who" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My point is that when you wrap a EV around a tree or have a serious accident > there is the potential for a Hazmat situation (drip or no drip it's still > acid and hydrogen), You only really have to worry about hydrogen buildup while charging, and th

Re: [biofuel] Millennium Cell

2001-07-25 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Tim and All, --- Tim Castleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.millenniumcell.com > "Millennium Cell is a development stage company > focused on the generation of a new, clean, abundant > and renewable source of energy. Millennium Cell's > patented boron-based energy technology d

[biofuels-biz] Seattle aims to beat the Kyoto requirements

2001-07-25 Thread david_design
Looks like Seattle is an ideal place to set up a US biodiesel business. See this from Planet Ark http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=11717 Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm T

[biofuels-biz] Biodiesel Production

2001-07-25 Thread pkrasinski
Ocean Air Environmental formally NOPEC owns the Lakeland Florida facility the largest Biodiesel refinery in the world (methyl ester) our existing capacity exceeds 10,000,000 gallons per year, with the ability to increase capacity to 18,000,000 per year. Visit our Biodiesel Website: www.oceana

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel Production

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Peter There's been some discussion on the Biofuels list about why your company has to use a free web hosting service like Geocities, with it's annoying banner ads and so on - not something to inspire confidence among would-be clients, one would have thought. Also, I've found that Ocean

[biofuels-biz] G8 Renewable Energy report

2001-07-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.renewabletaskforce.org/default.asp G8 Renewable Energy Taskforce Homepage http://www.renewabletaskforce.org/report.asp Report download We would be most interested to hear any comments you have about the report, please do so by going to the Notice Board page. The Notice Board page ha

[biofuels-biz] Re: Biodiesel Production

2001-07-25 Thread gjkimlin
I become concerned when a plant manufacturer says that their plant can make biodiesel from tallow. The methyl ester that I have made from tallow has a melting point over 22degrees-too high for fuel. When mixed with diesel the tallow FAME still solidifies. Does anyone have a use for tallow FAME