Re: [biofuel] ONTARIO BIODIESELERS

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
Timothy, Make your first batches. Familiarize yourself with the process. Refine some techniques a bit. Then watch your New Holland eat up as much acreage over a longer lifetime than were it running on petrol diesel. You've got the yellow grease feedstock in your neighborhood. This list has enoug

Re: [biofuel] SVO setup for winter use of biodiesel

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
Ed, I don't ask this confrontationally. Do you really believe that yellow grease B-100 (or similar) will not be problematic when using only the fuel line heater, during weeks long periods of sub-freezing nights and at best mid-30's days? Such would be the majority at the middle to mid-southern l

RE: [biofuel] A trip through retrofit hell...

2002-09-25 Thread Keith Addison
>I don't know about printers ink in the diet but seems most forms of >cellulose work. Or lignin. >Kirk According to the organics lists, printers' ink is innocuous these days, mostly made from soy oil. Even the coloured inks are innocuous, but if you stick to b/w newsprint and keep away from glo

Re: [biofuel] Oil depletion and Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
It is not a simple situation and US has never made it a secret that they will look for US interests. It is equally wrong to say that it is all about oil, as to pretend that it has nothing to do with oil. It is two sides of the coin of political polarization that was invented in US. Nixon started

Re: [biofuel] plese, send me info

2002-09-25 Thread soni_fach
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I will test durability diesel engine, but i don't know how to start >> experiment. i hope ican information about it. >>thank's > > What aspect of the durability of diesel engines do you want to test? > > Keith The aspesct are : 1. Fuel oil systems 2. cooling systems

Re: [biofuel] ONTARIO BIODIESELERS

2002-09-25 Thread Timothy Powell
Well, I try I just hope my new Newholland will continue to run as good as it looks, thanks. --- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Timothy, The process is painlessly easy. You could use veg oil and Red Devil lye off the grocer's shelf. Locating the methanol would only take a few phone c

Re: [biofuel] SVO setup for winter use of biodiesel

2002-09-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
on 9/25/02 2:57 PM, Michael S Briggs at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've been thinking about a way to let me use 100% biodiesel in my Jetta > TDI wagon, and wanted to see what others had for input. > First, I'm wondering if just an inline heater on the fuel line > just before the engine (like t

RE: [biofuel] Radiant barriers

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
Kirk, It is weather data from Stockholm and we have data that represent a so called standard year. The simulations are made during the periods October - April.. Some simulations are values for full year. I can not tell you exact periods for this specific calculations, since I do not have access

Re: [biofuel] Oil depletion and Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
All the "blood for oil" side tracking put aside, I believe that both Senators Daschel and Byrd hit the target dead center today when they expressed the error of politicizing when human lives and national integrity lay in the balance, no matter what decision is made. What the US president is askin

RE: [biofuel] A trip through retrofit hell...

2002-09-25 Thread kirk
I don't know about printers ink in the diet but seems most forms of cellulose work. Or lignin. Kirk -Original Message- From: Grahams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:44 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] A trip through retrofit hell... A

Re: [biofuel] Oil depletion and Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>USA are in a hurry, because waiting 6 month to a year, will probably make >any attack on Iraq much more difficult, the excuses might >be depleted and the risks more obvious. It is probably a go or no go >situation within the next 6 month. For US it is extremely important to >secure oil supplies

Re: [biofuel] SVO setup for winter use of biodiesel

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
Michael, I strongly doubt that just a fuel line heater would keep you problem free with B-100 during an average winter. Not even an average winter in Texas or Georgia. No matter what temp the recirculated fuel would raise the fuel in the tank to, you're going to run into the problem of fuel starv

RE: [biofuel] Radiant barriers

2002-09-25 Thread kirk
What is the assumed outdoor temperature these efficiency ratings are calculated from? Kirk -Original Message- From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:47 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Radiant barriers Caroline, I finally

Re: [biofuel] ONTARIO BIODIESELERS

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
Timothy, The process is painlessly easy. You could use veg oil and Red Devil lye off the grocer's shelf. Locating the methanol would only take a few phone calls. Borrow a set of scales and use the "standby" 3.5 grams of caustic per liter of fresh oil. You'll see the process unfold before your ey

Re: [biofuel] Berkeley ca- straight vegetable oil fuels conversion workshop-DIY Skillshare, sunday, sept 29

2002-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Biodiesel] Re: liquid glycerine?

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
Michael, Understood. Whether or not the "crude glycerin" layer tends to solidify at room temp will depend on how much of the FFAs end up in the glycerin layer (acid/base versus straight base reactions) (heavily degraded feedstock versus not), if the amount of catalyst was kept to a minumum creat

Re: [biofuel] ONTARIO BIODIESELERS

2002-09-25 Thread Keith Addison
Timothy Powell wrote: >The help that I need is to see the process. I don't think you need that. Most people here who make biodiesel just went ahead and did it. We made our first biodiesel based on 12 paragraphs we found on the Web, just about all there was available then. Now there's excellen

[biofuel] SVO setup for winter use of biodiesel

2002-09-25 Thread Michael S Briggs
I've been thinking about a way to let me use 100% biodiesel in my Jetta TDI wagon, and wanted to see what others had for input. First, I'm wondering if just an inline heater on the fuel line just before the engine (like the VEG-therm heater sold at http://members.shaw.ca/biofuels/products

Re: [biofuel] ONTARIO BIODIESELERS

2002-09-25 Thread Timothy Powell
The help that I need is to see the process. --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Timothy Powell wrote: >I would not be a good idea if I had to buy diesel fuel >and I am having a hard time getting help to make >biodiesel. What help do you need? Keith PS: Please turn off html in y

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Separator

2002-09-25 Thread Keith Addison
>Probably a silly question, but I haven't seen anyone mention using a >centrifuge-type device (like an old-fashioned cream separator) to >pull the biodiesel from glycerine and soaps. > >Anyone tried this? Yes. Have a look in the archives. http://archive.nnytech.net/ Keith -

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Separator

2002-09-25 Thread Appal Energy
Might be useful to get the last fraction of biodiesel out of the soap layer quicker. I've seen a 55 gallon barrel filled with nothing but this layer exude ~5 gallons of biodiesel after sitting for several months. The better trick is to not produce any soap at all, or nearly no soap. This expedite

Re: [biofuel] Radiant barriers

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
Caroline, I finally read trough the fact sheet from Department of Energy and they seem to miss a few things about radiant barriers. They are studying and measure the effect of radiant barriers with fixed air temperature and without any other considerations. The assumptions and measurements do

[biofuels-biz] Russia, Iraq, OPEC, Oil Pricing

2002-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[biofuel] Russia, Iraq, OPEC, Oil Pricing

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[biofuel] Freedom and the environment (was: The fight between Enviro and Freedom)

2002-09-25 Thread Kenneth Kron
A friend of mine Richard Moon see http://extraordinarylistening.com/ says we should ask ourselves. a) Am I living for myself at the expense of others? b) Am I living for others at my own expense? c) Am I living for myself and others, bearing my burdens and allowing others to bear thiers. The c

RE: [biofuel] A trip through retrofit hell...

2002-09-25 Thread Grahams
At 02:09 PM 9/23/2002 -0600, you wrote: >If you have access to cotton!!! >I would turn that cotton into mushrooms. >There are several papers on mushroom culture on cotton waste. >Turn cellulose into yummy! One of the projects on my list was going to be growing mushrooms on coffee grounds. But my

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Efficiency and "Stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
At 07:17 PM 9/25/2002 +0200, you wrote: >You are right and that is also one of the reasons why I mentioned paint. If >you mix it in paint, it can be compared with a very thick layer of dust. >Apart from that the reflective paint is very interesting, it is the only >technical data I know at the m

Re: [biofuel] Radiant floors was Re:..."stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
At 09:41 AM 9/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 06:34 AM 9/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Check out this link for the subflooring that I plan to use in my new home. > >http://www.warmboard.com/ > >Joe. > >Looks cool, I installed our radiant floor system. One thing that I would

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Efficiency and "Stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
You are right and that is also one of the reasons why I mentioned paint. If you mix it in paint, it can be compared with a very thick layer of dust. Apart from that the reflective paint is very interesting, it is the only technical data I know at the moment that could give an indication. In t

AW: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Biodiesel] Re: liquid glycerine?

2002-09-25 Thread Camillo Holecek
Sorry folks, could someone please enlighten me, why that is such an important topic to you what the glycerine is looking like (at room temp., I assume)? I thought, you all want to produce biodiesel in the first place. This is not to be sarcastic, I just would like to understand your motives. C

[biofuel] Biodiesel Separator

2002-09-25 Thread Walker
Probably a silly question, but I haven't seen anyone mention using a centrifuge-type device (like an old-fashioned cream separator) to pull the biodiesel from glycerine and soaps. Anyone tried this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Sell a Home for Top $

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Efficiency and "Stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread Grahams
At 09:13 PM 9/24/2002 +0200, you wrote: >This as many things are relative, of course it will be less effective >with dirt or oxidation on it. This because the surface is no longer >the surface, it is the dirt. Mixed with a material aluminium could >go from its potential emission factor of less tha

[biofuel] EREN Network News -- 09/25/02

2002-09-25 Thread EREN
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[biofuels-biz] EREN Network News -- 09/25/02

2002-09-25 Thread EREN
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Re: [biofuel] upcoming biodiesel events in Santa Rosa CA

2002-09-25 Thread rmcphe8888
NATIONAL BIODIESEL BOARD 3337A Emerald Ln. P O Box 104898 Jefferson City, MO 65110-4898 (573) 635-3893 phone (800) 841-5849 (573) 635-7913 fax www.biodiesel.org NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contacts: Ted Brown/T.W. Brown Oil (805) 339-2355 Jenna Higgins/National Biodiesel Bo

[biofuel] Radiant floors was Re:..."stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread Grahams
At 06:34 AM 9/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Check out this link for the subflooring that I plan to use in my new home. >http://www.warmboard.com/ >Joe. Looks cool, I installed our radiant floor system. One thing that I would like about putting the PEX under a wood floor i

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Efficiency and "Stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread Hakan Falk
I checked it and if you read the following link first, you will understand my comments later. http://floorcontrol.energy.saving.nu/ I like it, but the advantages and disadvantages that they are referring to can be argued and depends on other circumstances, like What is the heating system? Wh

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Biodiesel] Re: liquid glycerine?

2002-09-25 Thread rpg
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Biodiesel] Re: liquid glycerine? > Pardon me, but this below is crap, is it not? It's the fatty acid > portion that's saturated or unsaturated, no

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Efficiency and "Stuff" in general

2002-09-25 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To:biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject:Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Efficiency and "Stuff" in general Check out this link for the subflooring that I plan to use in my new home. http://www.warmboard.com/ Joe. This as many things are relative, of

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: [Biodiesel] Re: liquid glycerine?

2002-09-25 Thread Michael Allen
Hi Todd, You could perhaps have added that soaps made from saturated fats such as stearin are harder than those made from unsaturated fats such as olein. As a consequence, impure glycerol which contains stearin-based soaps (coconut, tallow etc.) should be more solid than a glycerol which contai

Re: [biofuel] Using Alcohol for fuel - 2

2002-09-25 Thread Bryan Fullerton
LOL no I think you are confused. Gasoline is "thicker" then alcohol I believe. In reality the flowability in this case has nothing to do with needing to enlarge the jets. It is simply a matter of needing more fuel for the given amount of air. In rereading my response below I can see that I did not