Re: [biofuel] Re: Voltage

2003-05-03 Thread Kim Nguyen
hi, i haven't joined in this discussion but i think you may have some things wrong below that was brought out much earlier in the discussion thread. this is how it should be: power(watts) = potential(volts) * current(amps) this is the same as yours which is expressed in joules...one watt is on

Re: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button Was:[biofuel] Bush's "Christian" Bloo

2003-05-03 Thread Kim Nguyen
man...you are quotable with that, "...They don't realize that all they are doing is arguing over who gets the first-class rooms on the Titanic, while putting all their faith in the captain's decisions." but while most of us aren't as articulate as you here...deep down we all know it and are hopi

Re: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button Was: [biofuel] Bush's "Christian" Bl

2003-05-03 Thread Kim Nguyen
not to sound cliche-ish but history is full of empires who have fallen due to their own "success" (i.e. gred)...ours won't be any different...if you think about it, we haven't come that far...instead of beating and killing each other up for scarce resources like we used to do, we're beating up

[biofuel] Re: Here's the proof: was....the most corrupt government?

2003-05-03 Thread Andrew Preston
And Joe Kennedy buying the presidency for his son? Andrew Preston On Fri, 2 May 2003 10:25:01 -0700 (PDT), "Kris Book" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I believe that when the truth is told about our current > regime (Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush), this period in > history will be called the most cor

Re: [biofuel] Re: Here's the proof: was....the most corrupt government?

2003-05-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Andrew, If you start like this, it becomes a not so pretty picture. Joe Kennedy's involvement in the period of prohibition or the current presidents grandfather's involvement with Nazi Germany etc. etc. The ancestors of presidents must have made money on something, otherwise their grandchildre

[biofuel] Re: BTU's to KW

2003-05-03 Thread Gary Gluyas
Hello all Anyone there that can convert for me 21,000 BTU's to KW? My calculations tell me it is about 6.1 kilowatts - but would really like this confirmed thanks. Gary [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---

Re: [biofuel] Re: BTU's to KW

2003-05-03 Thread Contactos Mundiales
Yes, Garry, you are right. l Watt = 3.412 BTUs 21,000 BTU / 3.412 = 6,1547 Watts = 6.1547 kW Best regards, Luis - Original Message - From: Gary Gluyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: BTU's to KW > Hello all > > Anyone there that

Re: [biofuel] Cracked Pots

2003-05-03 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
Thanks for a wonderful wakeup message. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:16 PM 5/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Just a thought for the day. > > > > > Cracked Pots > > A water bearer in China had two large pots, each hung on the ends of a >pole which he carried across his neck. One of the pots had a

Re: [biofuel] Re: BTU's to KW

2003-05-03 Thread Steve Spence
You can't convert btu to kW (BTU has a time unit), but can convert to kWh. BTU * 0.0002928 = kWh Btu /min * 0.01757 = kW Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original

RE: [biofuel] Re: BTU's to KW

2003-05-03 Thread kirk
British thermal unit (Btu) a unit of heat energy defined as the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. In America the British thermal unit is sometimes called the heat unit. In defining the Btu, it is necessary to specify the temperature of

[biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

2003-05-03 Thread csakima
Sigh ... again it seems to be coming down to "The MLM effect". History seems to be all coming down to rallying everyone to a battle call. Then telling everyone that, "if we're gonna do this ... we have to make 'sacrifices' ".Then putting everyone into a CORPORATE You=employee (cheap employee

Re: [biofuel] The MLM effect.

2003-05-03 Thread Ken Provost
Curtis writes: >Sigh ... > >History seems to be all coming down >to rallying everyone to a battle call. >Then telling everyone that, "if we're >gonna do this ... we have to make 'sacrifices' ". >Then putting everyone into a CORPORATE >You=employee (cheap employee) >ME=CEO position. You w

RE: [biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

2003-05-03 Thread kirk
Come out of her lest you partake of her plagues. Kirk -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:58 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button Sigh ... again

Fw: Re: human manure ( was Re: [biofuel] living with less, an experiment in minimalism )

2003-05-03 Thread Greg and April
Steve, the book I was talking about was called 'Solviva'. You can get some of the info. from the book at the web site below. One idea I had would be to also plant cottonwood, aspen, and/or other very fast growing trees at the margins of your Bioremediation area, and that way you can grow firewoo

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-05-03 Thread Greg and April
One problem ( that I don't know what the rate is elseware ) that we have in the western US, due to allot of the long miles between stopping points, is a fairly high rate of auto accidents due to Highway Hypnosis, and drivers falling asleep behind the wheel. One particular incident we had last sum

[biofuel] Re: [The Future of Humanity] RE: [renewable-energy] Recipe for Car Power: Heat Vegetable Oil, Flip Switch and Go.

2003-05-03 Thread Steve Spence
Yep. I specifically told him the oil becomes less viscous with heat. Oh well. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Frank R. Leslie" <[EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

2003-05-03 Thread csakima
I have been looking for a way. But every which way seems to begin by doing some immoral, unethical ... or as is the case most of the time, illegal. Will not quit still looking. Anybody wanna point the way?? I'm all ears. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3

Re: [biofuel] The MLM effect.

2003-05-03 Thread csakima
Or maybe, as in what appears to be in my case SO pre-programmed by "the system" that I "cannot" see any other way ... or perhaps not know what I'm looking for. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Ken Provost <[EM

RE: [biofuel] The MLM effect Was: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

2003-05-03 Thread kirk
Nope. Means becoming as self sufficient as you can. Build a greenhouse. That is usually a very good thing to do. Buy food from the source. That is usually half of wholesale. Kirk -Original Message- From: csakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:13 PM To: biofuel@y

(fwd) RE: [biofuel] Re: BTU's to KWh

2003-05-03 Thread murdoch
Thanks Kirk, I thought this was a fun explanation to read. I've always just used 1 kWh = 3412 BTU, but this was much more in-depth. On Sat, 3 May 2003 07:41:49 -0600, "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: British thermal unit (Btu) a unit of heat energy defined as the amount of heat required to ra

Re: [biofuel] The MLM effect.

2003-05-03 Thread Ken Provost
Curtis writes: >Or maybe, as in what appears to be in my case >SO pre-programmed by "the system" that I >"cannot" see any other way ... or perhaps not >know what I'm looking for. A few possibilities:sell everything you own, buy (or refurbish) a catamaran and sail around the world,

Starting from scratch Was: [biofuel] The MLM effect

2003-05-03 Thread csakima
Problem is ... every way I look at it .. it all seems to start with a large amount of something called "money". Whether it's to purchase that land to live off of or to build a greenhouse. And "money" is something I have a rather short supply of (spelled Z.E.R.O.). Suggestions Also ..

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-05-03 Thread Doug Foskey
On Sun, 4 May 2003 03:00, you wrote: > One problem ( that I don't know what the rate is elseware ) that we have in > the western US, due to allot of the long miles between stopping points, is > a fairly high rate of auto accidents due to Highway Hypnosis, and drivers > falling asleep behind the wh

[biofuels-biz] Re: [The Future of Humanity] RE: [renewable-energy] Recipe for Car Power: Heat Vegetable Oil, Flip Switch and Go.

2003-05-03 Thread Steve Spence
Yep. I specifically told him the oil becomes less viscous with heat. Oh well. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Frank R. Leslie" <[EMAIL