[biofuel] woops, I meant the touchless processor!

2003-05-21 Thread girl_mark_fire
Whoops!! I was thinking of the Touchless Processor, not Ian's! mark > > But Mark, he doesn't do the wash in the same unit, washing's in a > separate tank. And I don't think he has a website - he did have one > but told me he'd taken it down because of virus problems, some time > ago. He f

[biofuel] Veggie 2-stroke oil?

2003-05-21 Thread dospunkspawn
Hi all, I'm new to this list, I've searched the archives, but I haven't really found any useful info on comparisons of 2-stroke oils to a vegggie based oil. I am a regular 2 stroke motorcycle rider, I usually use a mineral based synthetic 2-stroke oil, but I want to go to a vegetable based oil. I

Re: [biofuel] A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello again Detrick >Thanks for the input Keith!! You're welcome. :-) >It's been nice finding a more living >resource that responds positively :) I've put some more >comments/ideas/questions inline below... > >Keith Addison wrote: > > Hello Detrick > > > > Aren't you confusing SVO/WVO with bio

Re: [biofuel] Re: NBB and health effects data

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bill Thanks much for the response. >Keith, > >I am beginning to think that ASTM tested and approved small production >biodiesel is sort of like Bigfoot. Many sightings but no evidence. I aim to >change that. Oh-ho. >My project with the City of Eufaula (pronounced you falla) will change t

[biofuel] Re: New Distillers FAQ

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Tony > >*poink* well, that was a load of BS. no documented cases? what about the 2 > >or 3 dozen people killed in a single incident in China a year or so ago? > >Paul - could you please give me a few more leads about what happened there ? Not just in China, it happens in South Asia, Southea

[biofuels-biz] Delight and dismay as Tokyo tightens diesel rules

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20848/story.htm Delight and dismay as Tokyo tightens diesel rules JAPAN: May 21, 2003 TOKYO - Shoichi Hatsuyama pulls the oxygen tube from his face and struggles for breath as he tugs on a pair of socks and a jacket for yet another trip to th

[biofuels-biz] Caltex begins Australian ethanol fuel trial

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20857/story.htm Caltex begins Australian ethanol fuel trial AUSTRALIA: May 21, 2003 SYDNEY - Oil major Caltex Australia Ltd (CTX.AX) yesterday announced a trial use of ethanol in petrol after an earlier effort to introduce the fuel additive f

[biofuel] Delight and dismay as Tokyo tightens diesel rules

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20848/story.htm Delight and dismay as Tokyo tightens diesel rules JAPAN: May 21, 2003 TOKYO - Shoichi Hatsuyama pulls the oxygen tube from his face and struggles for breath as he tugs on a pair of socks and a jacket for yet another trip to th

[biofuel] Caltex begins Australian ethanol fuel trial

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20857/story.htm Caltex begins Australian ethanol fuel trial AUSTRALIA: May 21, 2003 SYDNEY - Oil major Caltex Australia Ltd (CTX.AX) yesterday announced a trial use of ethanol in petrol after an earlier effort to introduce the fuel additive f

[biofuel] FedEx Rolls Out Hybrid Delivery Vehicle r

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-20-09.asp FedEx Rolls Out Hybrid Delivery Vehicle WASHINGTON, DC, May 20, 2003 (ENS) - Global shipping giant FedEx, along with Environmental Defense and the Eaton Corporation, has unveiled a low-emission, hybrid electric powered delivery vehicle that th

[biofuels-biz] FedEx Rolls Out Hybrid Delivery Vehicle r

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-20-09.asp FedEx Rolls Out Hybrid Delivery Vehicle WASHINGTON, DC, May 20, 2003 (ENS) - Global shipping giant FedEx, along with Environmental Defense and the Eaton Corporation, has unveiled a low-emission, hybrid electric powered delivery vehicle that th

[biofuel] US wind power, with tax help, could grow faster

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20852/story.htm US wind power, with tax help, could grow faster USA: May 21, 2003 NEW YORK - Wind power in the United States could grow at levels closer to global rates if the government approved a smoother tax credit first enacted in 1994, i

[biofuel] Toyota to recall fuel cell cars due to tank glitch

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20847/story.htm Toyota to recall fuel cell cars due to tank glitch JAPAN: May 21, 2003 TOKYO - In a setback to advancing fuel-cell vehicle (FCV) technology, Toyota Motor Corp said yesterday it would recall all six of its hydrogen-powered vehi

[biofuels-biz] US wind power, with tax help, could grow faster

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20852/story.htm US wind power, with tax help, could grow faster USA: May 21, 2003 NEW YORK - Wind power in the United States could grow at levels closer to global rates if the government approved a smoother tax credit first enacted in 1994, i

[biofuels-biz] Toyota to recall fuel cell cars due to tank glitch

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20847/story.htm Toyota to recall fuel cell cars due to tank glitch JAPAN: May 21, 2003 TOKYO - In a setback to advancing fuel-cell vehicle (FCV) technology, Toyota Motor Corp said yesterday it would recall all six of its hydrogen-powered vehi

[biofuel] Oiling the Colonial Gears

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
"Philip J. Carroll, who oversees the Iraqi oil operation for the Pentagon, more than hinted that Iraq might opt out of OPEC." See below for more about Carroll. http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0321/mondo1.php Oiling the Colonial Gears by James Ridgeway U.S. Works Hard to Roll Back History

Re: Re: [biofuel] Fire Mitigation

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>That's fine, I'm not talking about logging out a area, it's just >that something needs to be done, not just sit around and talk about >it, while things burn. To much fuel, in the forest, is to much >fuel. Something needs to be done, even is it is a tree lotto, X% of >trees in a size catagoy

[biofuel] Re: New Distillers FAQ

2003-05-21 Thread Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS)
>*poink* well, that was a load of BS. no documented cases? what about the 2 >or 3 dozen people killed in a single incident in China a year or so ago? Paul - could you please give me a few more leads about what happened there ? Of the cases I have heard of, poisoning from "illict spirits" ha

[biofuels-biz] It's About (Mexico's) Oil

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Eat the State! Vol. 7, Issue #19 21 May 03 It's About (Mexico's) Oil A majority of Mexicans believe the United States invaded Iraq simply to acquire its valuable oil reserves. They are also beginning to suspect that the powers that run America have designs on Mexico's oil as well. As the

[biofuel] It's About (Mexico's) Oil

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Eat the State! Vol. 7, Issue #19 21 May 03 It's About (Mexico's) Oil A majority of Mexicans believe the United States invaded Iraq simply to acquire its valuable oil reserves. They are also beginning to suspect that the powers that run America have designs on Mexico's oil as well. As the

Re: [biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi again MM >On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:27:21 +0900, you wrote: > > >Hi Hakan > > > >>Keith, > >> > >>It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear > >>G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I > >>learned to turned it off now. > > > >Never watch the horrible thing (other than the occasional

[biofuel] Re: NBB and health effects data

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>Sounds like a great project! >Two comments: >1) If you dig around on the internet you may run acroww Ian >discussin his processor somewhere- and I read once that he ttried >out the 'do everything' function as describe4d on his website and >JtF only a few times, before decioding to use a separate

Re: [biofuel] vw tdis in connecticut

2003-05-21 Thread John E Hayes III
Hi Jason- I don't know of anybody that actually makes BD here in CT. Jim Burke in Southington does have a bulk-buy co-op ( http://ctbiodzl.freeshell.org/ ) if you want to go that route. From what I can tell, CT does have has a very active TDI mod scene that has technical and social Get-Togethe

Re: RE: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery

2003-05-21 Thread Greg
I would bet a TIG welding electrode would work, it would be a lot stronger. Greg H. ---Original Message--- From: kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 05/21/03 08:48 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery > > Doesn't look like it would be te

[biofuel] Re: NBB and health effects data

2003-05-21 Thread girl_mark_fire
Sounds like a great project! Two comments: 1) If you dig around on the internet you may run acroww Ian discussin his processor somewhere- and I read once that he ttried out the 'do everything' function as describe4d on his website and JtF only a few times, before decioding to use a separate was

Re: [biofuel] Re: NBB and health effects data

2003-05-21 Thread William Clark
Keith, I am beginning to think that ASTM tested and approved small production biodiesel is sort of like Bigfoot. Many sightings but no evidence. I aim to change that. My project with the City of Eufaula (pronounced you falla) will change that soon. Since the goal is to produce fuel for municipal

[biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread murdoch
>It seems to be part of a concerted and, as you say, efficient effort >not just to steer more profit to the auto companies (and perhaps save >them development costs), or not even primarily that, but to burn the >maximum possible amount of fossil fuel to swell the coffers of the >oil companies,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:27:21 +0900, you wrote: >Hi Hakan > >>Keith, >> >>It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear >>G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I >>learned to turned it off now. > >Never watch the horrible thing (other than the occasional video), so >I've never heard hi

RE: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery

2003-05-21 Thread kirk
Doesn't look like it would be terribly hard to try out. Procuring the electrodes prob the only difficult bit. Wonder if the filament from a burned out 500W lightbulb would do for the tungsten one. Kirk -Original Message- From: robert luis rabello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan >Keith, > >It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear >G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I >learned to turned it off now. Never watch the horrible thing (other than the occasional video), so I've never heard him talk - lucky me! >In three years, he managed to wipe ou

Re: [biofuel] acid esterification Re: FFA

2003-05-21 Thread Appal Energy
Paul, The precipitate appears in products of both SVO & WVO origin. Physical appearance is along the lines of a fine goat cheese. But even that's a bit tough to guestimate accurately unless we were to use a solvent to remove the dampness imparted by the esters. Final product may be quite powdery

Re: [biofuel] A question about using SVO/WVO in the U.S.

2003-05-21 Thread Detrick Merz
Thanks for the input Keith!! It's been nice finding a more living resource that responds positively :) I've put some more comments/ideas/questions inline below... Keith Addison wrote: > Hello Detrick > > Aren't you confusing SVO/WVO with biodiesel? With biodiesel, the > situation with the E

[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 05/21/03

2003-05-21 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- May 21, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). ===

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 05/21/03

2003-05-21 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- May 21, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). ===

Re: [biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread Hakan
Keith, It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I learned to turned it off now. In three years, he managed to wipe out the efforts of one generation, to leave something more sustainable to future generations. Deficits, environment and other

Re: [biofuel] white 'salt' (??) was acid esterification Re: FFA

2003-05-21 Thread mark schofield
Hi girl_mark_fire The material initially settles out into ME and black glycerol. After the mixture has cool, a white crystaline (?) material precipitates down onto the glycerol. I have seen this a few times now. When I take photos I'll send them out to you all. Regards Mark ___

RE: [biofuel] more positive next time was the Grease Trap: Co-ops part 1

2003-05-21 Thread Mark Kaufman
That's a really good idea! Some of the mistakes I've read about on this biofuels group seem to be repeated and a well written and more formally written, rather than the typical informal "line-of-consciousness-writing-style" that often goes on here, would go a long way toward avoiding the repetiti

Re: [biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>MM and Keith, > >I find the subsidiaries completely in line with the ideology >of the current US administration and majority. It is a >certain logic to it and they are efficient. > >In other places they call it corruption. Not much to talk about, >they are in charge and have the blessing of the A

Re: [biofuel] acid esterification Re: FFA

2003-05-21 Thread mark schofield
Hi Paul No, the precipitate also forms in the bio-diesel. Once my camera is charged I'll send over a photo of what I have here. Mark __ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 32 to give or donate online now at http:

[biofuel] more positive next time was the Grease Trap: Co-ops part 1

2003-05-21 Thread girl_mark_fire
I've got a decent list written up of things that HAVE worked well at the berkeley co-op, and I will try and write it up as a counter to the rather negative post I put out. It's really a very big deal to me that information about how these things have worked, and have not worked, be made avail

Re: [biofuel] Re: solar collector

2003-05-21 Thread Hakan
Do not forget that steam in many applications is used for its energy storage capacity, not necessarily temperature. Hakan At 02:03 AM 5/21/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Mark writes: > > > > > > >So I'm curious about steam and have a very basic question > >about it, in the application that Ken descri

Re: [biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread Hakan
MM and Keith, I find the subsidiaries completely in line with the ideology of the current US administration and majority. It is a certain logic to it and they are efficient. In other places they call it corruption. Not much to talk about, they are in charge and have the blessing of the American

[biofuel] another thing... was The Grease Trap: Co-ops part 1

2003-05-21 Thread girl_mark_fire
I just realized that it sounds really mean for me to a) talk about how the Portland coop is recruiting and talking to reporters, without having actually made fuel yet, and tob) at the same time be tooting my own horn on a list about the grand plans of Team Canola, who hasn't made fuel at it's b

[biofuel] Re: solar collector

2003-05-21 Thread Ken Provost
Mark writes: > > >So I'm curious about steam and have a very basic question >about it, in the application that Ken describes: Why is steam >used for this application rather than hot water like I'm >planning? is it because one can heat steam much hotter? > > Exactly. The rate at which energy can

Re: [biofuel] New Distillers FAQ

2003-05-21 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 21 May 2003 09:30 am, Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS) wrote: > > "NEW DISTILLERS" Frequently Asked Questions (Feb'03) > > 3) Will it make me blind ? > > > > Not if you're careful. This pervasive question is due to moonshine lore, > > which abounds with myths of blindness, but few actual document

[biofuel] Re: Senate Tax Bill Contains Fourfold Increase of SUV Tax Loophole

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Very good MM! regards Keith > >The language in the tax cut bill would allow business owners to > >deduct up to $100,000 cost of a new, large-size SUV in just one year. > >I want to briefly address myself to what strikes me about this, and >the objections raised to it by various groups, partic

[biofuel] long post- the Grease Trap: Co-ops part 1

2003-05-21 Thread girl_mark_fire
Well, Jack asked a big question about co-ops, and I feel a little overwhelmed trying to answer it. the biodiesel co-op 'movement' is growing very rapidly, I keep hearing about people wanting to start these things all over the place. Ive been in three of them now I guess. One is a year and a

Re: [biofuel] solar colector ( was Re: price of methanol )

2003-05-21 Thread Brent S
All great ideas. The simple one I made has a manifold at the top and bottom, with only 4 4 foot long abs pipes conecting them. I tested it one day just coverd with plastic and nothing attached. The result I got was encouraging, 70 deg in the bottom and 140 deg out the top. This can very easily

[biofuel] vw tdis in connecticut

2003-05-21 Thread Jason A. Kunst
I just recently started driving from Worcester, MA to Groton, CT everyday for a new job and was wondering if there is anyone in CT along the 395 area that would be up to meeting with me and showing me their bio-diesel or wvo setup. Thanks Jason A. Kunst CCNP, MCSE Micro-Monkey Consulting Netwo

Re: [biofuel] Toothpaste as poison

2003-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kim >hey keith...you're one really smart guy so why reaffirm someone I didn't. Kris has his own argument with Paul. I agreed with Kris about unsupported opinionating, and that it's not a good idea to take on the moderator's role (though not with how he put it). My message was to point o

Re: [biofuel] acid esterification Re: FFA

2003-05-21 Thread paul van den bergen
On Tue, 20 May 2003 11:44 pm, Appal Energy wrote: > The only place that we've ever achieved a white precipitate is in the wash > cycle. This has (or had) been tentatively calculated to be a metal stearate > (potassium or sodium) due to it's appearance after the introduction of the > caustic(s) and

Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Fuel Leak Simulation Dr. Michael R. Swain

2003-05-21 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 21 May 2003 05:21 am, kirk wrote: > Even a broken clock is right twice a day. If we only judge information on > how politically correct the source is then we may as well join the crowd > and burn the heretics at the stake. yes, I agree. but only twice a day. You wouldn't, for instance, u

Re: Re: [biofuel] Fire Mitigation

2003-05-21 Thread Greg
That's fine, I'm not talking about logging out a area, it's just that something needs to be done, not just sit around and talk about it, while things burn. To much fuel, in the forest, is to much fuel. Something needs to be done, even is it is a tree lotto, X% of trees in a size catagoy from

[biofuel] Re: solar colector

2003-05-21 Thread girl_mark_fire
Spent part of the morning out at our nice new big 'experimental' site (Team Canola, a not-very-official 'coop' of sorts), installed our first shiny new over- feature-ified 110 gallon processor, Yay! anyway it was blazing hot out there, just a few miles inland and it's about 10 degrees hot