Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Appal Energy
Okay. Then you're buying a pig in a poke. I wouldn't cough up much more than $1,500, presuming it ran like a top at this very moment. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Alan Petrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dies

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Anything that sounds like a sweater and has MK (<5) in the name should be avoided. ;-) Edward Beggs On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Alan Petrillo wrote: > Appal Energy wrote: >> The thing is what? 18 years old? >> >> That should tell you something about the reliability. > > Well

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
I'd say that's in the ballpark. There was one locally and the guy wanted about $4000 and it is stll sitting, unsold - supposed to be "excellent" shape. Over here, I'm patiently waiting for my mechanic friend to finish reassembly of a new toy around here...an 86 Suzuki longbed hardtop, wit

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Alan Petrillo
Appal Energy wrote: > The thing is what? 18 years old? > > That should tell you something about the reliability. Well, yes and no. What would really tell me something about the reliability is the presence or absence of an Everest size pile of repair bills behind it. Back in the Bad Old Days I

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Alan Petrillo
Neoteric Biofuels Inc wrote: > Underpowered, hard to get parts for, and a throwaway if anything major > goes out on the engine. Don't pay too much. > Just an opinion. Ah, but that begs the question, how much is too much? The current bid on it is $2900. I'm hesitant to up it anymore without

Re: [biofuel] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli

2003-09-06 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Keith, At 09:34 PM 9/6/2003, you wrote: > >MM, > > > >You are right, it is some dubious statements in it, that > >also are totally misleading and false. Like the one on, > >"a study indicates that carcinogenic (and air polluting) > >organic compounds are produced when the fuel is burned". > >

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Bill Debates In U.S. Congress

2003-09-06 Thread Appal Energy
Face it folks (that's "folks" in my best Porky Pig imatation, not G.W. Shrub's). ANWR is nothing more than another fix for the corporate and energy junkies. It' not a solution nor even a stop gap measure in the energy picture beyond an overnight weigh station. That's one of the most specific and

Re: [biofuel] Re: De-saturation of Animal Fats for better cold starting

2003-09-06 Thread Appal Energy
> Permaculture types would just put a > chicken coop at the end of the chute and use the entire larva to make > chicken, but biodiesel researchers have somehow figured out that if > you dry the larvae out and press them like soybeans, they're 40% oil. > Yech. Sounds like the animal rights purist

Re: [biofuel] Synthetic Oil and Grease

2003-09-06 Thread Daryl Dinwiddie
I'd just like point out that those numbers are not the numbers I have for Amsoil. At least not with a diesel powered vehicle. Using Amsoil synthetic (or any synth really) in my truck, with the stock oil filtration system will only double my expected mileage before an oil change as compared to din

Re: [biofuel] Synthetic Oil and Grease

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
>I'm starting to working on getting my newly-acquired 1984 Mercedes >300 DT (I have no manuals) into roadworthy condition. > >What are my options (if any) for synthetic oil and grease so I can >avoid fossil fuels associated with a lube and oil change? Is there >anything biofuel-related that I shou

Re: [biofuel] Synthetic Oil and Grease

2003-09-06 Thread John Morris
Maud Last year I was planning a trip from Vermont to California. I mentioned my plans on another list looking for restaurant suggestions and an Amsoil dealer contacted me suggesting I give their oil a try.. The main selling point is that they claim you can go 25,000 miles on an oil change, thus

Re: [biofuel] Re: anyone make kits to make biodiesl ?

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris >Keith, our seals are made from 3/8 inch ID silicon tubing, which is >slit lengthwise and then glued with silicon >caulking to the rim of the tank. Our tops are made from 3/4 inch >plywood cut to a circle but with plastic laminate >glued to the side exposed to the fumes. The top is lat

Re: [biofuel] tech question

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
>I have access to a circulating pump which uses a neoprene impeller (to >be used in a processor I am building) Is it resistant to methyl esters >at 60 degrees Celsius? Try this Bob: http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/ChemComp.asp Cole-Parmer: Chemical Resistance Database No methyl esters, sadly

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 04:34:33 +0900 >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli > >>MM, >> >>You are right, it is some dubious statements in it, that >>also are totally misleading and false. Like the one on,

Re: [biofuel] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
>MM, > >You are right, it is some dubious statements in it, that >also are totally misleading and false. Like the one on, >"a study indicates that carcinogenic (and air polluting) >organic compounds are produced when the fuel is burned". He has to be quoting the infamous "Swedish study" (sorry Ha

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Underpowered, hard to get parts for, and a throwaway if anything major goes out on the engine. Don't pay too much. Just an opinion. On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 10:22 AM, Appal Energy wrote: > The thing is what? 18 years old? > > That should tell you something about the reliability. >

[biofuel] Germany eyes tougher diesel emission standards

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22107/story.htm Germany eyes tougher diesel emission standards GERMANY: September 4, 2003 BERLIN - Germany's environment ministry said on Wednesday it would push for higher diesel engine emission standards in the EU in a move which could boos

[biofuels-biz] Germany eyes tougher diesel emission standards

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22107/story.htm Germany eyes tougher diesel emission standards GERMANY: September 4, 2003 BERLIN - Germany's environment ministry said on Wednesday it would push for higher diesel engine emission standards in the EU in a move which could boos

[biofuel] Halliburton's No-Bid Iraq Contract Worth Multi-Billions

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.thenation.com/outrage/ 'Cost-Plus' Leadership 09/04/2003 We've recently learned Vice President Dick Cheney's old company (which still cuts him regular checks) is getting hundreds of millions of tax dollars more than we thought. As The Washington Post reports, "as much as one-third

[biofuels-biz] Halliburton's No-Bid Iraq Contract Worth Multi-Billions

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.thenation.com/outrage/ 'Cost-Plus' Leadership 09/04/2003 We've recently learned Vice President Dick Cheney's old company (which still cuts him regular checks) is getting hundreds of millions of tax dollars more than we thought. As The Washington Post reports, "as much as one-third

[biofuel] Toyota tells employees not to drive their cars to work

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=269910 Toyota tells employees not to drive their cars to work Tuesday, August 19, 2003 TOKYO - Auto giant Toyota Motor Corp is urging the 28,000 employees at its headquarters in central Japan to make a mental gear switch and stop driving to w

[biofuels-biz] Toyota tells employees not to drive their cars to work

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=269910 Toyota tells employees not to drive their cars to work Tuesday, August 19, 2003 TOKYO - Auto giant Toyota Motor Corp is urging the 28,000 employees at its headquarters in central Japan to make a mental gear switch and stop driving to w

[biofuels-biz] Cheney's Cover-Up

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8789 Cheney's Cover-Up John Dean is the former White House counsel for President Richard Nixon and author of The Rehnquist Choice: The Untold Story of the Nixon Appointment that Redefined the Supreme Court (Free Press, 2001). This commentary was origina

[biofuel] Cheney's Cover-Up

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8789 Cheney's Cover-Up John Dean is the former White House counsel for President Richard Nixon and author of The Rehnquist Choice: The Untold Story of the Nixon Appointment that Redefined the Supreme Court (Free Press, 2001). This commentary was origina

[biofuel] Iran and the Forgotten Anniversary

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2003/000158.html We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman NYT review of Stephen Kinzer's new book, All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror: http://www.nytimes.co

[biofuel] Laptop fuel cells - ready for takeoff?

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22097/story.htm Laptop fuel cells - ready for takeoff? USA: September 3, 2003 SAN FRANCISCO - Fuel cells that can run laptops for 10 hours or more without plug power have captured the imagination of computer junkies. But first, backers must p

[biofuels-biz] Iran and the Forgotten Anniversary

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2003/000158.html We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman NYT review of Stephen Kinzer's new book, All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror: http://www.nytimes.co

[biofuels-biz] Laptop fuel cells - ready for takeoff?

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22097/story.htm Laptop fuel cells - ready for takeoff? USA: September 3, 2003 SAN FRANCISCO - Fuel cells that can run laptops for 10 hours or more without plug power have captured the imagination of computer junkies. But first, backers must p

[biofuel] Rev up, but without pollution

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=62069 Rev up, but without pollution Express News Service Ahmedabad, September 1: THE most polluted city it may be but this car won't add to it. Reva, the electric car, was launched in Ahmedabad on Monday. Priced at Rs 2.68 lakh onwards, the c

[biofuels-biz] Rev up, but without pollution

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=62069 Rev up, but without pollution Express News Service Ahmedabad, September 1: THE most polluted city it may be but this car won't add to it. Reva, the electric car, was launched in Ahmedabad on Monday. Priced at Rs 2.68 lakh onwards, the c

[biofuel] September Surprise

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8791 September Surprise Bill Berkowitz is a long time political observer and columnist. Last May, President Bush made his now-famous -- and outrageously false -- statement to a Polish television station: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We fou

[biofuel] Race to sell eco-friendly cars spurred by new Prius debut

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.asahi.com/english/business/K2003090300322.html asahi.com : ENGLISH Race to sell eco-friendly cars spurred by new Prius debut The Asahi Shimbun Toyota Motor Corp.'s second-generation Prius hybrid car is expected to spur global competition in the key market for environmentally friend

[biofuels-biz] Race to sell eco-friendly cars spurred by new Prius debut

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.asahi.com/english/business/K2003090300322.html asahi.com : ENGLISH Race to sell eco-friendly cars spurred by new Prius debut The Asahi Shimbun Toyota Motor Corp.'s second-generation Prius hybrid car is expected to spur global competition in the key market for environmentally friend

[biofuels-biz] Imperial Oil refits refinery for low-sulfur gas

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22125/story.htm Imperial Oil refits refinery for low-sulfur gas CANADA: September 5, 2003 CALGARY, Alberta - Imperial Oil Ltd. IMO.TO said yesterday it finished an C$80-million ($58-million) refit of one of its refineries to meet new Canadian

[biofuel] For U.S. travelers, high-speed rail is still elusive

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2003-09-02/s_7931.asp For U.S. travelers, high-speed rail is still elusive Tuesday, September 02, 2003 By Michael Conlon, Reuters CHICAGO - U.S. airport security tangles, a fact of life in the nearly two years since the Sept. 11, 2001, hijack attacks, have not kick-st

[biofuel] Imperial Oil refits refinery for low-sulfur gas

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22125/story.htm Imperial Oil refits refinery for low-sulfur gas CANADA: September 5, 2003 CALGARY, Alberta - Imperial Oil Ltd. IMO.TO said yesterday it finished an C$80-million ($58-million) refit of one of its refineries to meet new Canadian

[biofuels-biz] For U.S. travelers, high-speed rail is still elusive

2003-09-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.enn.com/news/2003-09-02/s_7931.asp For U.S. travelers, high-speed rail is still elusive Tuesday, September 02, 2003 By Michael Conlon, Reuters CHICAGO - U.S. airport security tangles, a fact of life in the nearly two years since the Sept. 11, 2001, hijack attacks, have not kick-st

Re: [biofuel] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli

2003-09-06 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, You are right, it is some dubious statements in it, that also are totally misleading and false. Like the one on, "a study indicates that carcinogenic (and air polluting) organic compounds are produced when the fuel is burned". The fact is that the studies show an large reduction of carcinoge

[biofuel] Synthetic Oil and Grease

2003-09-06 Thread Maud Essen
I'm starting to working on getting my newly-acquired 1984 Mercedes 300 DT (I have no manuals) into roadworthy condition. What are my options (if any) for synthetic oil and grease so I can avoid fossil fuels associated with a lube and oil change? Is there anything biofuel-related that I should

Re: [biofuel] Re: methanol in dry gas

2003-09-06 Thread Daryl Dinwiddie
because in true dry gas, 99% methanol really is pure, because the other 1% tends to be water, and water can be dealt with. Its the "trade secret" other compounds that we know nothing about that would concern me. I dont know what it is, or what its reaction to the other chemicals is. I think I woul

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Appal Energy
The thing is what? 18 years old? That should tell you something about the reliability. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Alan Petrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: [biofuel] Diesel Jeep > Hey, y'all. > > I have a chance to bu

[biofuel] Diesel Jeep

2003-09-06 Thread Alan Petrillo
Hey, y'all. I have a chance to buy a mid 1980's diesel Jeep Cherokee. The engine in it is a 2.1l Renault turbodiesel. From what I understand of it, the thing came from the factory this way, and this is not someone's shadetree conversion. It looks like a good deal, but I know zip about Renau

[biofuels-biz] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli

2003-09-06 Thread murdoch
Some of the author's points will bug people here, but I like the existence of the basic coverage. Motavalli is the editor of www.emagazine.com The Benefits of Biodiesel Is "biofuel" as green as it seems? by Jim Motavalli http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/bio-beetle_motavalli.html --

[biofuel] Benefits of Biodiesel by Jim Motavalli

2003-09-06 Thread murdoch
Some of the author's points will bug people here, but I like the existence of the basic coverage. Motavalli is the editor of www.emagazine.com The Benefits of Biodiesel Is "biofuel" as green as it seems? by Jim Motavalli http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/bio-beetle_motavalli.html --

[biofuel] (fwd) [ETList] Comments Needed to Dump Dirty Diesel!

2003-09-06 Thread murdoch
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:25:01 -0400, RemyC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: http://www.saveourenvironment.org DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE postmaster@ DEFENDERS.ORG 1130 17th Street NW Washington, DC 20036 US (202) 789-2844 ext 267 fax: (202) 682-1331 Action Center Update: August 12, 2003 Comments Nee

[biofuels-biz] (fwd) [ETList] Comments Needed to Dump Dirty Diesel!

2003-09-06 Thread murdoch
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:25:01 -0400, RemyC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: http://www.saveourenvironment.org DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE postmaster@ DEFENDERS.ORG 1130 17th Street NW Washington, DC 20036 US (202) 789-2844 ext 267 fax: (202) 682-1331 Action Center Update: August 12, 2003 Comments Nee

Re: [biofuels-biz] Breakthrough Burns Biodiesel Better

2003-09-06 Thread murdoch
Good to see this. >From: >http://www.solaraccess.com/news/story?storyid=5024 > >Breakthrough Burns Biodiesel Better > >September 4, 2003 [SolarAccess.com] In order to >optimize the use of biodiesel in Germany, the research >institute FAL in cooperation with Volkswagen completed >the development

Re: [biofuel] De-saturation of Animal Fats for better cold starting

2003-09-06 Thread mark schofield
Bob Can it be achieved though and by which route? Mark Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuel] good diesel to buy

2003-09-06 Thread JERRY PURCELL
On the VW new beetle diesel. I goofed! I ment 70 miles per gallon!! murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm looking forward to the day when there are more affordable used ones on the road. On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:30:20 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >I talked to a women at the diesil pump on day and she

[biofuel] ECD news

2003-09-06 Thread murdoch
> >>Perhaps their strategy (keeping their mouths shut) is >>different than the strategies of BP-Amoco and Shell which have allowed >>more smoking guns? > >I think the main difference is that they're headquartered in the US >and BP-Amoco and Shell are hq'd in the UK. Being hq'd in the US >hasn't

Re: [biofuel] Re: Energy Bill Debates In U.S. Congress

2003-09-06 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, Precautionary actions are basics, if you want to avoid costly or fatal mistakes, but also the excuse for all sorts of events. We seems to be good in using this as pretext for going to war, when the real precaution should have been thought of 15-20 years ago. When US helped to create Sadda