[biofuel] France and legislation

2004-06-15 Thread Jerome Mathevet
Hi, I'm new to this group and would like to know if there's any french people over here who know if cooking your own fuel is legal. I ask that since you can't produce your own electricity in France (you have to sell it to the state company instead). Also, if any french has tips on where to buy

[biofuel] Palo Alto Biofuel

2004-06-15 Thread congo_0469
Hello, I'm new to this group so I apologize if this topic has been talked about in months past. In searching around on the web, I noticed some announcements of a Bio-diesel project for the city of Palo Alto, similar to the one in Berkeley. Does any one know the status of this project? Also,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Brian C.
Brian, The Fort-Paks from www.usplastics.com have caps which can be plumbed with 3/4 fittings. I don't see the caps by themselves on the website, but if you called I imagine they would sell you some without the carboy. Also, Sun West Container in Tucson (and Phoenix) sells the same caps. They

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
Ok, so you got a fancy dancy stove that uses biodiesel and we are now all drooling, so, do you also have a contact adress/website where we can get one too? Please? Ta! Luc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

[biofuel] Locating Tight Head containers for Methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
In the US it doesn't seem to be a problem, whereas elewhere it does not seem to be THAT simple. Here are some places to try in the US (useless to me but maybe good for you) :) Product A. http://www.generalcontainer.com/displayCategory.asp?cat=3subcat=12 I'd love to get my hands on these:

RE: [biofuel] The Economy of Wash Water Recycling

2004-06-15 Thread Richmond, Peter
I am certainly no Chemist but know that there are many chemistry experts out there. I was wondering if there is something that can be added to the wash water that would attract the contaminants? PeterR Canberra OZ -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuel] Prefab Possessor

2004-06-15 Thread ke6sge
Hi all, Another Newbe to all of this. I am a sheet metal journeyman and at the shop where I work does a lot of custom stainless steal duct work for hospitals and industry that needs it's ability to with stand corrosive fumes. The many shapes and sizes that we come up with for these jobs could be

Re: [biofuel] Re: Moving

2004-06-15 Thread rico suavae
Good luck on your new digs.I hope you find them inspiring and that they bend to your will Rico Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks for your good wishes, Luc, Brian, Jorge and all. Especially since I was

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
linden duncan wrote: The advantage I see to using the inline or Appleseed method would be that once you prepare your addition, you would not have to touch it again. Just as simple and safer. I'm not quite sure what you mean - addition means the methoxide or acid or whatever you're adding? If

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Ok, so you got a fancy dancy stove that uses biodiesel and we are now all drooling, so, do you also have a contact adress/website where we can get one too? Please? Ta! Luc :-) Drool away, see if I care! Heh! But you're wrong, it's NOT fancy dancy, it's common-or-garden, that's the whole

RE: [biofuel] The Economy of Wash Water Recycling

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Peter I am certainly no Chemist but know that there are many chemistry experts out there. I was wondering if there is something that can be added to the wash water that would attract the contaminants? I think there are too many different types of contaminants for that - excess methanol,

[biofuel] Washing 1 liter batches

2004-06-15 Thread Brian C.
Hello. I am just starting in the production of my own biodiesel. I have made several 1 liter test batches, but I'm not sure how to wash them. I can't find anything online particular to small batches, but I have found sources that say bubblewashing will be too violent and cause emulsification.

Re: [biofuel] Re: stanadyne pump compatability

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
Hey Keith, Is there any possible way to have solution suggestions for the injectors, like you have for the causes? It would be a nice checklist. :) James On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Keith Addison wrote: Those pumps die anyway. Biodiesel isn't a problem with them. The Diesel Fuel Injection

[biofuel] Pentagon's Weather Nightmare

2004-06-15 Thread tallex2002
The Pentagon's Weather Nightmare Hi all, I guess with the release of The Day After Tomorrow there has been a lot more buzz about global warming. Here is an interesting, timely article regards CLIMATE COLLAPSE The Pentagon's Weather Nightmare

Re: [biofuel] Washing 1 liter batches

2004-06-15 Thread Vip Video Club
I made a 1 liter batch last week and I did it this way: i mix 200ml.of methanol with a 3 o 4 grams of lye..in my case was a granular lye..is so litlle that i measured with a teaspoon...about 3/4 of the teaspoon.i put it in the blender..and old kitchen blender and shake it.then after is

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
and on that note, does anyone know where I can get a vent fiting for non-vented carboys? James On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Brian wrote: Mark, A while back, you had mentioned being able to find plumbing fittings to use a carboy for adding methoxide. To this point, I have been unable to find

Re: [biofuel] Re: stanadyne pump compatability

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hey Keith, Is there any possible way to have solution suggestions for the injectors, like you have for the causes? It would be a nice checklist. :) James No doubt it would James, but it won't be coming from me. If anyone else has the knowledge and inclination to compile such a list,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Moving

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Good luck on your new digs.I hope you find them inspiring and that they bend to your will Rico Thankyou Rico - other way round though, it's us who'll bend to its will. Man's work with nature that furthers nature's aims is the work that rewards him the best, says the I Ching, very wisely.

Re: [biofuel] Best Processer

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Dear Bob Dear Keith- Wow! Just what I needed to hear. :-) That's good! We do try... I've got a friend of mine pretty fired up about producing larger quantities for his many gearhead friends and local farmers, in larger quantities. Such as? This guy makes his own hot rods, so I think, if

Jerome Fwd: France and legislation

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Jerome Mathevet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new to this group and would like to know if there's any french people over here who know if cooking your own fuel is legal. I ask that since you can't produce your own electricity in France (you have to sell it to

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread linden duncan
James, Is your carboy made of glass, plastic or metal? Linden James Slayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and on that note, does anyone know where I can get a vent fiting for non-vented carboys? James On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Brian wrote: Mark, A while back, you had mentioned being able to

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread linden duncan
Keith, You mentioned using mild air pressure to pump from a carboy into the top of the processor. What are you using to create the mild air pressure? I agree that if there is a possibility of evolving too much gas from the reaction, that the main processor is the place to start the mixing of

Re: [biofuel] Pentagon's Weather Nightmare

2004-06-15 Thread Coral
article has been [re]moved. any ideas why? or should we buy the magazine? - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuel] Pentagon's Weather Nightmare

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi It's been posted before, which is no reason not to post it again. However, there was some interesting related information: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/31660/ Climate Change Alert http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/32243/ Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

Re: [biofuel] Washing 1 liter batches

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Brian Hello. I am just starting in the production of my own biodiesel. I have made several 1 liter test batches, Good for you! but I'm not sure how to wash them. I can't find anything online particular to small batches, but I have found sources that say bubblewashing will be too

[biofuel] Re: France and legislation

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jerome, welcome --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Jerome Mathevet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new to this group and would like to know if there's any french people over here who know if cooking your own fuel is legal. I ask that since you can't produce your own electricity in France (you

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Angus Scown
Keith, ÊÊ Now I understand the slow method of Methoxide addition, thanks.Ê You mention that the process takes about 6 minutes or so to add the methoxide, does that mean it drips onto the top of the mixture in the mix tank?Ê You sound like you have made a lot so I am going to follow your

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Linden Keith, You mentioned using mild air pressure to pump from a carboy into the top of the processor. What are you using to create the mild air pressure? So you still haven't looked at what you're commenting on. Sorry, I find that strange, especially after you were asked to do so

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Angus Keith, Now I understand the slow method of Methoxide addition, thanks. You mention that the process takes about 6 minutes or so to add the methoxide, does that mean it drips onto the top of the mixture in the mix tank? Dripping would be much too slow (1 ml = about 20 drops).

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
Because it is simple, works well, is reliable, is compact and not dependant on flash or bells and whistles to sell itself, it rates top shelf in my mind.Something does not have to be stamped made in (pick your industrialsed country) for it to be a quality product and this is proof of that

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo James, Try someplace which sells homebrewing supplies. Rubber bung with a hole in the middle to which you can attach a small plastic device which will allow gasses to escape. ?? Happy Happy, Gustl Tuesday, 15 June, 2004, 01:26:36, you wrote: JS and on that note, does anyone

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread Brian
Luc, What type of immersion heater are you using for your pre-heat tank? I've heard that you can get water heater immersion heaters cheap and screw them into a drum bung using a flange. I haven't really looked into this locally, but everything I'm finding on the net is $200 US and up. I

[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Brian
Brian, Thanks. I'll take a look. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Brian C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, The Fort-Paks from www.usplastics.com have caps which can be plumbed with 3/4 fittings. I don't see the caps by themselves on the website, but if you called I imagine they

[biofuel] wondering about this comment

2004-06-15 Thread Steve
I am a neutral observer. To distinguish between what is just and what is not. Jews have taken other peoples' homes and have driven them out of their land. i understand that all the arabs have accepted the fact that Isreal is to exist. They have offered to live in peace provided Isreal

[biofuel] Direct oil conversion?

2004-06-15 Thread tomasjkn
Hello dear fellow biofuelers, I have one theorethical question for chemists among you :). It seams to me, that there should be a direct chemical conversion route from oil to fatty acid methyl esters. (R-COO)-CH2-(R-COO-)CH-CH2-(-COO-R) + 3H2 == 3 R-COO-CH3 Has anyone of you studied this

[biofuel] New to the group

2004-06-15 Thread Dan Fitzpatrick
Howdy folks, I'm new to the group and relatively new to the concept of biofuels. From what I've read so far it looks like a very exciting field with a lot of potential to do a lot of good things in terms of providing a renewable and environmentally friendly alternative to fossil fuels. I hope

Re: [biofuel] Direct oil conversion?

2004-06-15 Thread Donald Allwright
I am no chemist, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Your suggestion would involve splitting the Carbon-Carbon bonds in the glycerol part of the molecule. This is certainly possible, as it's what happens with catalytic cracking. However if you're doing this to the glycerol part of the molecule

Re: [biofuel] Direct oil conversion?

2004-06-15 Thread Ken Provost
on 6/15/04 7:35 AM, tomasjkn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me, that there should be a direct chemical conversion route from oil to fatty acid methyl esters. (R-COO)-CH2-(R-COO-)CH-CH2-(-COO-R) +3H2 == 3 R-COO-CH3 Unfortunately, the ester linkage will always be much easier to

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
The immersion heater is a 115V type (NOT the 240V type)used for the common water heater (I also got another one to convert the lower element to 115V instead of the 240V it comes with)and can be acquired anywhere they sell water heaters,and usually right next to where they are displayed, such

Re: [biofuel] New to the group

2004-06-15 Thread Ken Provost
on 6/15/04 7:48 AM, Dan Fitzpatrick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm very interested to learn how far we could go towards completely replacing fossil-fuels without sacrificing lifestyle. Probly not very far. Check out The Party's Over, Richard Heinberg.

[biofuel] Re: Locating Tight Head containers for Methoxide - carboy caps

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
Below's contacts can provide threaded caps for the carboys as well. Luc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, biobenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the US it doesn't seem to be a problem, whereas elewhere it does not seem to be THAT simple. Here are some places to try in the US (useless to me but

Re: [biofuel] wondering about this comment

2004-06-15 Thread Hakan Falk
Steve, This is one of the worse things I heard for a long - long time. We have international laws that regulate this and none is supporting your and Israel's view about individual ownership, as you are stating it. It might have been true some hundreds years ago, but today ownership must be

[biofuel] pentagon article(free part)

2004-06-15 Thread tallex2002
Hi all, the link I posted yesterday may have got cut. Here is an excerpt Pentagon article link (free part) The Pentagon's Weather Nightmare The climate could change radically, and fast. That would be the mother of all national security issues. By David Stipp Global warming may be bad

[biofuel] Intro + biofuel

2004-06-15 Thread GuzziMaster
Howdy, New to the list. Here I hope to learn what is needed to move from our current Bio-Diesel Peuget 505 up to a full dual tank bio + SVO Pickup truck. So far the 505 on BD is working great, only it is WAY expensive fuel here in WA state. Will buy a 90's Dodge ram for the dual tank set

RE: [biofuel] wondering about this comment

2004-06-15 Thread Dan Fitzpatrick
I visited Israel recently and toured the Golan among other places. The Golan is the perfect place for anyone bent on the destruction of Israel (like Syria professes to be) to possess so that they can just drop their artillery shells on the most inhabitted sections of the country. That's what

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
HDPE plastic On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, linden duncan wrote: James, Is your carboy made of glass, plastic or metal? Linden James Slayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and on that note, does anyone know where I can get a vent fiting for non-vented carboys? James On Mon, 14 Jun 2004,

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
sounds interesting, I will ask Ken where he gets this brewing supplies. Thanks. James On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Hallo James, Try someplace which sells homebrewing supplies. Rubber bung with a hole in the middle to which you can attach a small plastic

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Luc Because it is simple, works well, is reliable, is compact and not dependant on flash or bells and whistles to sell itself, it rates top shelf in my mind.Something does not have to be stamped made in (pick your industrialsed country) for it to be a quality product and this is proof of that

Re: [biofuel] Pentagon's Weather Nightmare

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Coral wrote: article has been [re]moved. any ideas why? or should we buy the magazine? It's there, not moved. The url below in tallex2002's message has been broken in transit, I'd guess you only used the first part and got an error message. Add the broken-off bit on the second line and then

[biofuel] Re: Intro + biofuel

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
BD way expensive You must either be buying it commecial or using ONLY virgin oil to make it, and at that rate, yes it is expensive (although still ecologically responsible) :) If you were to produce your own top rate Biodiesel from waste vegetable oil (old fryer oil), as you will learn to

[biofuel] Conversion Tool

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
Found another on-line conversion tool to help those not metrically minded make sense out of volumes ect... http://convert.french-property.co.uk/ and scroll to the appropriate conversion you want to make. Also has Imperial measurements converted to metric for places like Canada where water

[biofuel] Confirmed WVO Sources

2004-06-15 Thread biobenz
Being a one step at a time project, my quest for building a workable processor and finding feedstock (WVO)is coming to fuition. I pick up the water heater (136 liter) on Thursday, but the exciting news is that today I got comfirmation of two seperate WVO sources. One, litterally across the

Re: [biofuel] pentagon article (free part)

2004-06-15 Thread MH
The pentgon article is pasted below via this link http://sierratimes.com/04/02/09/ar_weather.htm This Article Published 02. 9. 04 [Feb. 9, 2004] at 22:52 Sierra Time tallex2002 wrote: Hi all, the link I posted yesterday may have got cut. Here is an excerpt Pentagon article link (free

[biofuel] Re: Confirmed WVO Sources

2004-06-15 Thread Brian
Luc, Thanks for sharing the information. In buying dino diesel, Flying J is one of my mainstays. Their prices are always among the best, and they are one of the few truck stops that has auto diesel pumps rather than forcing me to fill my Beetle from a pump intended for filling semis. Now

[biofuel] Re: Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

2004-06-15 Thread Brian
Luc, Thanks again for the help. I need to just break down and head to Home Depot and look around, I guess. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, biobenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The immersion heater is a 115V type (NOT the 240V type)used for the common water heater (I also got another

Re: [biofuel] Abrupt Climate Change the 'Day after Tomorrow' movie

2004-06-15 Thread MH
A [US} Senate vote on the Climate Stewardship Act is expected in mid-June. The Day After Tomorrow: Coming Soon? Jun 7, 2004 http://www.movingideas.org/blitz/climate.html [for additional links throughout the article] CLIMATE STEWARDSHIP ACT | TAKE ACTION AND GET FREE ICE CREAM Over

RE: [biofuel] Bio-D as a chainsaw barchain lube?

2004-06-15 Thread Darren Hill
Sorry for the delayed reply, just started catching up with a few weeks worth of posts. I think it was the Weinstephan University in Germany (those of rape oil fuel quality standard fame) who did testing of cold pressed rapeseed oil for chainsaw oil. There is/was a .pdf file of the report

Re[2]: [biofuel] wondering about this comment

2004-06-15 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Dan, Go check out these sites and then come back and defend Israel. http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0693/9306019.htm http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/ This is the biofuels list and then some. No topic cops. Happy Happy, Gustl Tuesday, 15 June, 2004, 13:10:08, you wrote: DF I