Re: [Biofuel] Governments role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, I'm not so sure if the following would even be possible; 6) No private land ownership, however a system that puts people on the land for prosperity in agriculture through ley and organic means. In the county in which I live there would be enough decent property to allow every now

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread D. Mindock
1. Emotions are part of being human. Life without them would be boring. 2. The only, the only source that reported the story originally was the emotional one. The facts about what happened are embedded in it. 3. The difference between the two stories, as I recall, is that time had passed and

[Biofuel] What Would Crazy Horse Do?

2006-05-22 Thread D. Mindock
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/May06/Random19.htmMisconceptions in the Immigration DebateWhat Would Crazy Horse Do?by Jack RandomWe are not a nation of immigrants. We might have been. We nearlyexterminated the entire population of indigenous peoples but in the endwe failed. The natives are

[Biofuel] Fwd: Anti-Empire Report, May 21, 2006

2006-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:41:28 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anti-Empire Report, May 21, 2006 http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer33.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Governments role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hi, I'm not so sure if the following would even be possible; 6) No private land ownership, however a system that puts people on the land for prosperity in agriculture through ley and organic means. In the county in which I live there would be enough decent property to allow every now

[Biofuel] Dynoil announces it will build a 100, 000 barrel per day Bio-Diesel Refinery in the Houston, Texas

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Bergmans
Dynoil announces it will build a 100,000 barrel per day Bio-Diesel Refinery in the Houston, Texas This is really big. Can anyone tell me how serious this announcement is? Is this a well known company? I cannot find any company website. Maybe it's related to Dynoil Energy

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
I wonder what this is all about. I don't see any crop circles or UFOs, no Round Tables, Bilderbergers or Freemasons, no New World Government, I didn't even see the S-word. It would be kind of strange to protest that this isn't happening in the US now and just write it off to hysterical

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
good gods! these people are demented to say the least. theres spin, and then theres the tilt-a-whirl...and i gotta say this no longer qualifies as simple spin. There is no such thing as simple spin. What CEI does should come as no surprise. There are 30 previous emails in the list archives

Re: [Biofuel] What Would Crazy Horse Do?

2006-05-22 Thread Hakan Falk
Well, US have their own Holocaust history, as ugly, racial and unfair, as the German one. Almost all countries has such histories, that often are suppressed and the current winners banalize it. Even Sweden, Norway and Finland, have a very ugly past in their treatment and stealing from the

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-22 Thread Chip Mefford
Paul S Cantrell wrote: This is a joke...Right? I mean, surely ExxonMobil doesn't think that we are ALL THIS DUMB, RIGHT? No, ExxonMobil *KNOWS* 'we' are all that dumb. The (surreal) videos of the 2 commercials: http://streams.cei.org/ Backed by ExxonMobil. Denialists with a vested

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-22 Thread Hakan Falk
Finally I looked at the videos and got surprised. How could any sane person participate in such an attempt. It would be a big joke, if it was not serious and part of a comic show. It is so amazing, stupid and in fact a criminal fraud. Hakan At 13:16 22/05/2006, you wrote: Paul S Cantrell wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Ever read the book Toxic Sludge is GOOD for You? Hakan Falk wrote: Finally I looked at the videos and got surprised. How could any sane person participate in such an attempt. It would be a big joke, if it was not serious and part of a comic show. It is so amazing, stupid and in fact a criminal

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Ww ARE that dumb. Gotta go watch TV in my SUV Chip Mefford wrote: Paul S Cantrell wrote: This is a joke...Right? I mean, surely ExxonMobil doesn't think that we are ALL THIS DUMB, RIGHT? No, ExxonMobil *KNOWS* 'we' are all that dumb. The (surreal) videos of the 2 commercials:

Re: [Biofuel] Government's role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Jim, I think number 4 could be dangerous. What if a corporation wanted to withhold their taxes for some reason? I'd modify number 5: 5) Government through representation of the people by the people. to this: 5) Government through representation of only the people, by only the people, for

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Interestingly, (according to a Washington Post article) dogs interpret leaning forward with a hand outstretch as a threatening gesture, whereas slightly leaning back with your hands at your sides is non-threatening. MK DuPree wrote: Thanks Keith...very respectful. Thank you. Mike DuPree

Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Redler, I think you owe me a refund. I'm sending your pdf's back. Keith Addison wrote: Just to add, I wouldn't want anybody to generate any pdf files from the material at JtF, whether for sale or for non-sale or for anything. JtF is not public property, and there's not much about it that's

Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Redler
Dude, it wasn't me! I'm talking to a guy in Nigeria who's trying to secure the inheritance of an exiled prince. He said that if I put his name on my bank account, they will have a safe place to put the money until everything settles down - and I get to keep the interest!! :-) - Redler Mike

Re: [Biofuel] Cars runs on water and Other Nonsense

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Family is from Pratt, mother grew up in Wichita. Spent Summers in Kansas (yuck). Uncle is in Fairway... Wheat farmers... Kansas has changed radically in the past 30 years IMHO... MK DuPree wrote: Sorry, for got to include subject...too happy - Original Message -

Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Boy, that's a coincidence - I have deal going with a nice man in Nigeria who is going the help me with Sani Abacha's fortune! Nice to know we'll both be rich... Mike Redler wrote: Dude, it wasn't me! I'm talking to a guy in Nigeria who's trying to secure the inheritance of an exiled prince.

Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
The Toyota is a bolt-in...just need the motor. Jeep is more hassle. Perry Jones wrote: Well, I for one would love to do a diesel conversion on my '97 Jeep Wrangler 5 speed. Well, I'd also love to do it on my '94 Toyota pickup 5 speed. Then I'd be 100% diesel, which is the goal. I'd sort of

Re: [Biofuel] CEI runs PRO CARBON DIOXIDE ADS

2006-05-22 Thread DHAJOGLO
Clearly the solution is not to hate CEI, but to kill all of the gazelles; what with their nasty CO2 poluting ways. Its orginazations like CEI that keep the Daily Show in business. This is a joke...Right? I mean, surely ExxonMobil doesn't think that we are ALL THIS DUMB, RIGHT? The

Re: [Biofuel] Government's role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Chip Mefford
D. Mindock wrote: Hi Jim, I think number 4 could be dangerous. What if a corporation wanted to withhold their taxes for some reason? I'd modify number 5: 5) Government through representation of the people by the people. to this: 5) Government through representation of only the

[Biofuel] Jock's peanut sheller

2006-05-22 Thread mark manchester
We're terribly proud. We used to live on a tugboat in Toronto harbour with this imaginative guy, who is now living in Wilmington, N.C. It's a nice bit of appropriate technology. We even have a pic of him and his sheller with Jimmy Carter, . Jesse

Re: [Biofuel] Government's role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
D. Mindock wrote: Hi Jim, I think number 4 could be dangerous. What if a corporation wanted to withhold their taxes for some reason? I'd modify number 5: 5) Government through representation of the people by the people. to this: 5) Government through representation of only the

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, Todd, you live in Ohio. Didn't this make any local waves at the time, or during the subsequent court proceedings? Not a peep. But that doesn't mean that it didn't get press. Probably more local than state. If you read down a bit there's a lot of detail, a lot of reporting, and it's

Re: [Biofuel] Governments role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Doug Younker
Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA Keith Addison wrote: Why? Why what? :) One meaning of prosper would be, the ability provide for basic, of basic needs. Why wouldn't there be enough decent property to allow all current households in my county to prosper by agricultural means? There just isn't.

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Todd Keith, Todd, you live in Ohio. Didn't this make any local waves at the time, or during the subsequent court proceedings? Not a peep. But that doesn't mean that it didn't get press. Probably more local than state. If you read down a bit there's a lot of detail, a lot of

[Biofuel] mixing

2006-05-22 Thread ricalls
during my learning process i blended a liter of 10% petrol diesel with 90% biodisel that i had made. after 2 weeks of sitting in a bottle on the shelf, the petrol diesel settled to the bottom. is this normal over time? did i not mix thoroughly enough? r. allison

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Gotta go with Keith on this one - I read everything I could find on this and I was so upset I emailed everyone in Cleveland Heights I could. I am appalled at how this terribly dangerous 53 year old woman was treated. -Mike Keith Addison wrote: Hi Todd Keith, Todd, you live in

[Biofuel] Harper misquided to cut energy efficiency and renewable energy programs

2006-05-22 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Here's a prime example of right wing muddled thinking. We can pretty well forget about this government implimenting improved energy efficiencies and alternative energy tech development. The (Canadian) Harper government moves to mirror Bush's oil soaked madness. He should be ashamed of himself.

Re: [Biofuel] mixing

2006-05-22 Thread JJJN
I dont think so given a steady atmosphere I dont know why they wouldn't separate. I have seen Bio gel into snowflakes amidst # 1 diesel. even thought they mix well that does not go to say that over time they won't separate either. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: during my learning process i

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
I've got a simple answer for you Keith. I read the first part. Didn't much care for the partiality and lack of facts. Started to read the second part and got a little tired of hearing the sales pitch. I know it well. I shout it from the mountain tops in one way shape or form and have for

Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio

2006-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Please see response to Keith's post. I spent fifteen minutes sifting through several weeks of their archives just to get a snippet of the facts before I first replied. But I certainly can't spend hours hunting down what's relative and culling out what's not. That was the point of my post.

Re: [Biofuel] Government's role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread JJJN
I really don't mind corporations, and I like to see them make a profit when it means prosperity for all, I just dont like the powers in Govrnment to be persuaded and corrupted by those profits. Yes this one needs some work, Thanks Jim D. Mindock wrote: Hi Jim, I think number 4 could be

Re: [Biofuel] Governments role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Doug Younker
My post had nothing to do with wealth, energy,y just my doubts that your #6 is even achievable. Perhaps my reply to Keith's Why? further explained my point. Do you believe a Government through representation of the people by the people, regardless of the form it would take would outlaw

Re: [Biofuel] Government's role in society.

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Redler
Jim wrote: "I really don't mind corporations, and I like to see them make a profit when it means prosperity for all."Divided World: Rich Live Longer, Poor Die Youngerhttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines/062900-01.htmThose who want wealth, will have it. Since there is no individual who's work