Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Weaver
Jason! I'm not fat. -Weaver Jason Katie wrote: the truest and best answer to any TEOTWAWKI situation in america is to start farms that grow fruits, wildgrasses, vegetables, oil crops, sugar crops, meat animals, and trees...oh wait WE CANT, that takes work and most fat lazy americans wont

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-17 Thread Logan vilas
Hey Doug, I have some small machine equipment and some reasonable priced machine shops in my area, If I can't make it I'm sure I can have it made. I am interested in stirling engines for the exact same use. If the plans look good to me I might be willing to build a prototype at my expense

Re: [Biofuel] GM is obsolete - non-GM biotech now the first choice

2006-07-17 Thread E. C.
LOL! ... the Mike(s) aren't the only ones -- but Jason, you left out another essential: a pepper-shaker! LOL Seriously, tho -- I agree whole-heartedly, as we strive to look backward into the future, keeping foremost in our minds the slogan of sustainability: LESS IS MORE LESS, BUT BETTER

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-17 Thread Jason Katie
is that a no contest plea? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be

[Biofuel] Hemorrhagic fever - Megadeath in Mexico

2006-07-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
Discover Magazine Issues Feb-06 features Megadeath in MexicoEpidemics followed the Spanish arrival in the New World, but the worst killer may have been a shadowy native—a killer that could still be out there.By Bruce StutzDISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 02 | February 2006 |

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...re castings

2006-07-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you are serious about that endevour join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HotAirEngineSociety/there are several members who have built their own.KirkLogan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Doug,I have some small machine equipment and some reasonable pricedmachine shops in my area, If I

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Actually, for most people on PV systems nowadays, I recommend going to Sears and getting the most efficient GE or Kenmore fridge. They use about 30% more power than a Sunfrost, but cost about a third as much, and you can add a few extra solar panels for this. Regular AC fridges used to be really

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I wouldn't recommend the generator route, unless you have a really good soundproofing method I just spent the weekend at a remote cabin, and it had a little PV system for lights and such. But the machine shop there was designed back in the 70's before PV's were available, and it is all set up

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Jason Katie
scratch and dent sales usually mark stuff down 30 or 40%, if you are lucky (or sneaky and totally uninhibited) you could find (or "find/make") ahigh end fridge the same cost as a regular fridge. JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Zeke

Re: [Biofuel] Hemorrhagic fever - Megadeath in Mexico

2006-07-17 Thread Jesse Frayne
Thanks Kirk for this interesting read. A great follow-up to Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel Thanks also to the Douglas Fir for their part in the sleuthing. --- Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discover Magazine Issues Feb-06 features Megadeath in Mexico

[Biofuel] Vanadium battery

2006-07-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/04/the_vanadium_ba.phpA new mass energy storage technology is on the cusp of entering mainstream society. The Japanese are currently using it on a grand scale, the Canadians have comprehensively evaluated it and soon Australians will have the opportunity to

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-17 Thread Appal Energy
JJJN, I fully agree, but then I know some folks that will vote Republican to save the Guns - and they hate everything else about Republicans. Democrats aren't going to take anyone's guns away. Well, save for automatics, sawed-off shotguns and perhaps assault rifles. Any NRA-er who thinks

Re: [Biofuel] Vanadium battery

2006-07-17 Thread D. Mindock
Ref: Vanadium redox battery This seems to be the battery we've all been waiting for. I wonder what'll it cost here in the US? Peace, D. Mindock More info at: http://www.answers.com/topic/vanadium-redox-battery - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Appal Energy
Ken, Still, it would be very silly to spend $10,000 to stay off-grid, only to find that I was not satisfied and end up spending the $17,000 to get PGE also. I guess that's why you need to size your consumption and determine where you can shave peak and continual use to determine your final

[Biofuel] Fw: The Force Is Not With Them

2006-07-17 Thread D. Mindock
BushCo is a paranoid schizo entity. It is based on zero-sum thinking and preference to use force to solve all problems, both at home (intimidation, fear) and abroad (military). Bush's heavy use of signing statements in essence says that he's free to do whatever he wants and that no law is over

[Biofuel] In fascist America, thought crimes are prosecutable

2006-07-17 Thread D. Mindock
From: http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2006/07/in_fascist_amer.html 7-12-2006 In fascist America, thought crimes are prosecutable Engage in certain types of talk and you can be arrested for thought crimes. Whether they are gathered in a Miami warehouse or an Internet chatroom, if

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Ken Provost
On Jul 17, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Appal Energy wrote:.. you need to size your consumption and determine whereyou can shave peak and continual use to determine your finalcosts.There may be no "inconvenience" to tolerate. I actually did all that last year, but I believe I was not

[Biofuel] Biofuel energy gains and environmental impact study

2006-07-17 Thread MH
Researchers Assess Life-Cycle Impact of Soy Biodiesel and Corn Ethanol 11 July 2006 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/researchers_ass.html Soybean biodiesel returns 93% more energy than is used to produce it, while corn grain ethanol currently provides only 25% more energy. Soybean

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-17 Thread JJJN
Todd, Appal Energy wrote: JJJN, I fully agree, but then I know some folks that will vote Republican to save the Guns - and they hate everything else about Republicans. Democrats aren't going to take anyone's guns away. Well, save for automatics, sawed-off shotguns and perhaps

Re: [Biofuel] Vanadium battery

2006-07-17 Thread dwoodard
The technology looks interesting, but the article takes a tone of uncritical boosting. There is nothing about cost cycle efficiency amount of vanadium resource in proportion to possible applications how it works relation to other technologies (this is one of a family of flow batteries) energy

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-17 Thread Jason Katie
just exactly what is black, white? negro, african american, that damn N-word, pastey, cracker, honkey... its all a waste, so why do people think in these terms? its demented. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] Vanadium battery

2006-07-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
More info below the article in the comments section Kirk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The technology looks interesting, but the article takes a tone of uncritical boosting. There is nothing aboutcostcycle efficiencyamount of vanadium resource in proportion to possible applicationshow it worksrelation