Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-24 Thread leo bunyan
I'm so glad this has come up again As I have another beaut joke and seeing as my last one went down so well Here it is "And then there was the dyslexic devil worshipper He sold his soul to Santa" Boom Boom Have fun Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think so. Alot of the native am

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-23 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I don't think so. Alot of the native american rituals involved self mutilation in various forms, and I suspect they are similar or older or origin to Judaism. And the emphasis on guilt from some christian sects (Catholicism comes to mind) could also be described as mental self mutilation, so I'm

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-23 Thread Alon
Hi zeke little check up on reality pleas... Isn't judaism the first religion of self mutilation. mutilation that could generate hidden and un hidden hostilities within a person or a state? Alon. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-22 Thread Alon
Dear group And strong believers, to my humble point of view, the most amusing approach to resolve, the conflict between the two large religions the hopefull christianity, and rather extreme Islam, also, to gain some more serene approach towards life here - one must refer to the sorce of these r

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-16 Thread Joe Street
leo bunyan wrote: Yeah Joe I understand where you are coming from But unfortunately that wouldn't make us any better than them. No Leo I think you misunderstood. I was not the one advocating using force to make religions accountable. That was sarcasm at your suggestion of doing so. It

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Keith Addison
rom the Koran I mentioned, then I would be happy >to forward it to them, but I'm not going to waste my time posting it here as >it would most likely just be glossed over anyway. > >Bobby > > > >From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: bio

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Keith Addison
e a >few days, though. > >As for the fellow who supposedly did this, my opinion is that it was made >up. I read on truthorfiction.com that the guy mentioned in the email claims >that it really happened, but there were no others who substantiated this. >There had to have been a good

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? I can tell now from the responses I hae seen that I should not get involved with this discussion because it seems most people have their pat or canned answers to religion in

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Fred Oliff
 Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo:  biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject:  Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?Date:  Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:38:51 -0800 (PST) The Bible is full of tales of violence. Islam is basically wherethe Christian world was a century

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread leo bunyan
That's great I'll try that one!!! Then there was the dyslexic insomniac agnostic that used to lay awake at night wondering if there really was a dog!!! Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I start talking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster... leo bunyan wrote: > Yeah Joe I understand where

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Mike Weaver
I start talking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster... leo bunyan wrote: > Yeah Joe I understand where you are coming from > But unfortunately that wouldn't make us any better than them. > It is hard to bring these religions to accountability. > I don't waste much time on god and religion but when

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread leo bunyan
Yeah Joe I understand where you are coming from But unfortunately that wouldn't make us any better than them. It is hard to bring these religions to accountability. I don't waste much time on god and religion but when a jw or morman come knocking on my door, interrupting my Saturday morning hangov

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread JAMES PHELPS
>From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:15:55 -0500 > >I can tell now from the responses I hae seen that I should n

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread JAMES PHELPS
Thanks Bobby we await your information, Jim >From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:20:43 -0500 > >I can tel

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Bobby Clark
d be happy to forward it to them, but I'm not going to waste my time posting it here as it would most likely just be glossed over anyway. Bobby >From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org &g

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Bobby Clark
t; >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:39:45 -0500 > >Hey Bobby; > >If you want to present something for us to form our own opinion, then why >bother pasting t

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Ken Dunn
On 11/15/06, Jesse Frayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People who are scared and vulnerable are the tools of those who might not be virtuous. Yet there are virtuous religious people. Personally, I think this statement covers the discussions very accurately. In general, people are fearful of

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Joe Street
Nice viewpoint Kirk; I would also like to suggest we take a look at the subject line and think on it for more than half a second. Within the framework of a question there is the fact that depending on how it is framed it presuposes a subset of possible answers and rules out alternatives. I

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Jesse Frayne
I have read the Koran and tried to understand it, but without help from a Muslim person. Interpretation is always terribly important, yet those who interpret are human. Stratification of civilization has included holy men who had a private thing going with (whichever) God. Those who didn't hav

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
The Bible is full of tales of violence. Islam is basically wherethe Christian world was a century ago re the rights of women etc. so we shoulnt be toffee nosed and oh so righteous. Help your brother and sister to achieve more enlightenment and stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.  

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
have been a good number of people there if it really happened so it is suspiscous that no one else can substantiate it.Bobby From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date:

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Zeke Yewdall
On 11/15/06, Bobby Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can tell from the responses that none of the people here have read any ofthe Koran. There is a particular passage known as the "Sword Passage" thatpromotes violence against all infidels, particularly jews. Even the foremost experts on Islam are

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Joe Street
no one else can substantiate it. Bobby From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:56:14 -0500 My understanding of the word 'Jihad'

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Joe Street
Yeah lets 'roll up our sleves and FORCE them religions to be accountable to their tenets'  LOL! classic.  So are you preaching peace then Leo? Joe leo bunyan wrote: The amount of killing and wars had in the name of god be it alah god buddah etc does not reflect any of the love and peace that

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Bobby Clark
CTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:56:14 -0500 > >My understanding of the word 'Jihad' is the idea of personal growth. >Fighting the good fight within

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Joe Street
154998177 MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: M&K DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread Joe Street
This message reminds me of one of my favorite sayings. "Religion is the root of all evil" sad Joe M&K DuPree wrote: Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion.  Thanks.  Mike DuPree  

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread abdul rahman ilyas
eadable. Thanks. Richard From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:11:07 -0600Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complet

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-15 Thread leo bunyan
The amount of killing and wars had in the name of god be it alah god buddah etcdoes not reflect any of the love and peace that these religons preach.It is time to stop the  charade  and  make these religions  answerable  to what they stand forLeoM&K DuPree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can I get

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread Kirk McLoren
enough you will see that power over others and money are the root causes of this phenomena, It is when man becomes the middle man that things go bad.    My best, Jim- Original Message - From: M&K DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:11

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread richard tandiono supardi
d From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:11:07 -0600 Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ignorance of the

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread robert and benita rabello
M&K DuPree wrote: Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion.  Thanks.  Mike DuPree   This is nothing more than a means to stir up fear. Key terms, like "liberal media" and "ACLU" are inse

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread JAMES PHELPS
&K DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion.  Than

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread Ken Riznyk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:11:07 PMSubject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion.  Thanks.  Mike D

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread Jason& Katie
] - Original Message - From: M&K DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ign

[Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-14 Thread M&K DuPree
Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me?  I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion.  Thanks.  Mike DuPree   - Original Message - From: "Mendoza, Ray R [NTK]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Golf Teacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, Novem