Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
That is quite ENOUGH thankyou. Get back to your harp, skaar, you ol' windbag. There was a young feller named skaar whose exhaust could be heard from afar to save himself toil he used straight veggie oil and fouled it all up with the tar. :-) (Er, no need to respond to that, it's a suitably crum

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a better term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it B.r., David - Original Message - From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
..etc. Maybe I've got it completely wrong. B.r., David - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but > i d

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads -- eons ago. GN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did > write my favorite book. > > "Dr.

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did write my favorite book. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > Yar, mate. Thet be the one > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > circumcising > > that's the one. > >

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread David Reid
in to take ourselves as we get older. B.r., David - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > circumcising > that's the one. > tommy loy the cabin boy > dirty little nipper &g

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
Yar, mate. Thet be the one [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > circumcising > that's the one. > tommy loy the cabin boy > dirty little nipper > stuffed his ass with broken glass > and circumcised the skipper > > seems painful for both parties. > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > And one about circums

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread skaar
circumcising that's the one. tommy loy the cabin boy dirty little nipper stuffed his ass with broken glass and circumcised the skipper seems painful for both parties. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > And one about circumscribing the skipper > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > i seem to remember

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
And one about circumscribing the skipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. > > Biofuels wrote: > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > > By gosh, he was a *arter! > > When the wind wouldn't blow > > and the ship wouldn't go, > > They got Car

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
The rotor of the generator in CLearwater must be at least 30 feet tall. It would turn slowly in low wind. I never tried to find out who oned it or how much power it generated. But it was certainly quite. GN jerry dycus wrote: > > Hi Gary and All, > --- "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi David and All, I prefer downwind rotors with rotatable tower foils , I had been building them for 5 years 15 years ago. Your right, most noise comes from the interaction of the blades and the tower. Another source is the blade tips. I solved that by using single thickness blad

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Gary and All, --- "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen a unit with this sort of rotor in a city > near > Clearwater Florida. Rotor was mounted vertically -- > that is > axis of rotation was vertical eliminating any wind > direction > dependence. Where might that on

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-24 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Gary and All, --- "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen a unit with this sort of rotor in a city > near > Clearwater Florida. Rotor was mounted vertically -- > that is > axis of rotation was vertical eliminating any wind > direction > dependence. Where might that on

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-23 Thread skaar
i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. Biofuels wrote: > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > By gosh, he was a *arter! > When the wind wouldn't blow > and the ship wouldn't go, > They got Carter the *arter to start'er! > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell Inte

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-23 Thread Tim Castleman
I am referring to the diagram, which when enlarged shows a "pool" of some liquid, valving, heat exchanger, and what may be a rectifier plus a couple of transistors? Yet the text refers to "windings" and "no brushes", but I don't see a mechanical connection, rather it seems electrical with DC. This

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-23 Thread Dr. Gary Nelson
I have seen a unit with this sort of rotor in a city near Clearwater Florida. Rotor was mounted vertically -- that is axis of rotation was vertical eliminating any wind direction dependence. Looks feasible to me GN David Teal wrote: > > robert luis rabello wrote > "I found the site. Pleas

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-23 Thread Biofuels
The Cabin Boy's name was Carter By gosh, he was a *arter! When the wind wouldn't blow and the ship wouldn't go, They got Carter the *arter to start'er! Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell International would have it! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org

Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!?

2001-04-23 Thread Tim Castleman
Indeed, this appears to be a pure hoax to me. The diagram you refer to doesn't make sense-OR- I just don't understand the technology involved. I looked at it carefully and I say - SCAM! Tim > http://www.wvt.de/englisch/index.htm > > They claim the start up speed with NO LOAD is .3 meters

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-22 Thread David Teal
robert luis rabello wrote "I found the site. Please check out the following link: http://www.wvt.de/englisch/index.htm They claim the start up speed with NO LOAD is .3 meters / second. I looked at the power curve on the site and it didn't seem like they were making any outrageous c

Re: [biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-22 Thread David Teal
Here is my patent spec. for noise reduction of wind turbines. I hope this will allow more of them to be used, as it mitigates one of their public acceptability problems. http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=GB2353825&CY=gb&LG=en&DB=EPD David Teal Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journey

[biofuel] more windpower

2001-04-22 Thread stephen lakios
I found more sites on wind power and one which is selling reconditioned wind turbines. Some interesting info too. There are over 28,000 producing wind turbines on wind farms worldwide, most are in california, 14,500 of them, and growing. Wind farms are producing 7,800,000,000 kwh a year. Over 30 n