Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread Biofuels
I like the idea of hydrogen, too, but take a look at www.biofuels.fsnet.co.uk/sustain.htm if you want to see what the disadvantages are. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send a

RE: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread Mike Brownstone
7;RE using hydrogen absorbing alloys and the like. I like hydrogen!!! Mike > -Original Message- > From: Trudy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:07 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Gara

RE: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread kirk
hydrolyser can be batch and thus self pressurizing. Kirk -Original Message- From: Biofuels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:37 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage If the energy obtained from a given mass

Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread Trudy Williams
George Bush says it will work!! He uses fuzzy math!! Greg -- Original Message -- From: "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:36:52 +0100 > > >If the energy obtained from a given mass of hydrogen is 100%

Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread Ed Beggs
#x27;s when we drive around in 'em that the problems start. Ed B. www.biofuels.ca > From: "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:36:52 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Ever

Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread Biofuels
If the energy obtained from a given mass of hydrogen is 100% - the energy taken to make that hydrogen by hydrolysis is 130% It then takes another 30% to compress it for portability Making it, in all, in all 160% energy negative So much for the energy economy - unless you have access to unlimited

Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-12 Thread Martin Klingensmith
It probably will, if Bush sticks around long enough to have a say, we'll all have 12 cylinder cars in our garage that get 8 miles to the gallon - we'll just give the oil companies some more money to fly to the moon and extract oil from the green cheese --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-12 Thread Keith Addison
Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >They address the option of using a hydrocarbon >"dino"-fuel for powering a fuel cell, however I don't >think they realize that, at current technology levels, >liquid hydrogen is extremely hard to transport. >Hydrogen is also simply an energy tra

Re: [biofuel] A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-12 Thread Martin Klingensmith
They address the option of using a hydrocarbon "dino"-fuel for powering a fuel cell, however I don't think they realize that, at current technology levels, liquid hydrogen is extremely hard to transport. Hydrogen is also simply an energy transfer medium - it takes 'x' units of energy to produc