Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>    They address the option of using a hydrocarbon
>"dino"-fuel for powering a fuel cell, however I don't
>think they realize that, at current technology levels,
>liquid hydrogen is extremely hard to transport.
>Hydrogen is also simply an energy transfer medium - it
>takes 'x' units of energy to produce the hydrogen from
>water, and the hydrogen supplies 'x' units of energy -
>assuming 100% efficiency. One answer to be considered
>is using a hydrocarbon that can both be produced
>easily, and stored easily. Methane comes to mind,
>easily produced from biomass, otherwise it's too early
>in the morning for me to think to an excess.

Fossil fuels it'll be, methinks.

>    I have to laugh every time I see the "FREE ENERGY
>CAR" that gives you complete and total plans to
>convert your old gas hog to burn hydrogen, you have a
>couple of batteries running hydrolysis cells in the
>trunk, the engine burns the hydrogen and the
>alternator supplies power to the cells. The funny
>thing is that this guy claims >100% efficiency. I
>guess I don't need to mention that the guy selling
>this idea is not rich, has never produced a working
>model, probably never graduated 9th grade, and sings
>in a local band somewhere on the west coast [USA]


Hell, I wouldn't mind singing in a local band somewhere on the west coast. :-)
 
>--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It sounds too good to be true -- an automotive power

If it sounds that way it usually is that way.

Regards

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/


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