[svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
Francis proposed: > | Without further ado, I also challenge anyone to provide a > | namespace process of today, whereby I can't present it in a > | more intuitive method, without the use of namespace. Doug says: > This should be easy for you. Design an XML dialect that shares element names >

RE: [svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Francis- | JD, | Finally, someone who can think outside the box! His point was *not* the same point you were making. You recommended that an author create custom attributes, but not in their own NS (as they should be). The issue of attributes in the "null" namespace is not as serious. The ma

RE: [svg-developers] setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Jean-David- | Francis may have a point : | | why setAttribute(attr,prop) does not default to | setAttributeNS(CurrentDocNS,attr,prop) ??? Well, it depends on the implementation. That particular method call is up to interpretation, since get/setAttribute is a DOM 1 method, as opposed to get

[svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
JD, Finally, someone who can think outside the box! Without further ado, I also challenge anyone to provide a namespace process of today, whereby I can't present it in a more intuitive method, without the use of namespace. Try me, Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "benamou" wrote

[svg-developers] Need help in devolping the maps through SVG

2005-10-05 Thread Ramindar
Hi, I am making an application in which i got to make the maps in SVG. In which i got to give an unique id to each land area. So i am looking for an editor in which i can draw the map in svg and give unique id's to each bounded area. And further if i need to cut the land into 2 parts that can b

Re: [svg-developers] setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread benamou
Francis may have a point : why setAttribute(attr,prop) does not default to setAttributeNS(CurrentDocNS,attr,prop) ??? JD - Original Message - From: "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:57 AM Subject: RE: [svg-developers] setAttributeNS is dumb,dum

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Travsam- I don't know why you should be having any problems. This code (a variation on yours) works perfectly in IE+ASV3 and FF1.5b1. E-mail Regards- Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. jucabapa79 wrote: | | Yep, i found the mistak

[svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread jucabapa79
Yep, i found the mistake sending the code... Then I want to know how then the code works on your viewer, i am using the Adobe SVG Viewer using Internet Explorer. I mean, my idea using the rectangle and the text is to form one button, the entire button must allow the player to click to other pa

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Travsam- Sorry, but I don't see what you mean. First off, your code snippet is not well-formed... it seems you left off the end of the rectangle and the start of the text element in the second code block. Even correcting for that, though, the link worked perfectly. Do you have a public URL

[svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread jucabapa79
Of course!!! Here is the code... http://www.yahoo.com";> E- mail http://www.google.com";> Fax Thanks anyway. Travsam --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Travsam- > > Can you post a URL to your code, or a snippet of the offending code

[svg-developers] Re:very urgent -toot tip display

2005-10-05 Thread arthycharm
Hai , Thanx for your reply.But actually I have some circles in my program and the lines connecting these circles.what the problem is i am going to generate the circles first and connect these circles dynamically.in order to connect the circles dynamically i have created the line element itself

RE: [svg-developers] finds the htm, but not the ID

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Bryan- I'm not sure why it's not working for you. It works for me in both ASV3+IE and FF (native SVG): http://www.svg-whiz.com/svg/jumpToId.svg Regards- Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. bryan_schnabel wrote: | | Hello, | | I'm trying to link a string

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Travsam- Can you post a URL to your code, or a snippet of the offending code? We'll be better able to help you that way. Regards- Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. jucabapa79 wrote: | | Insisting with my trouble i experimented to use different | figures

[svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread jucabapa79
Insisting with my trouble i experimented to use different figures with to find out if this code works properly with them, because i wanted to use a rotated rectangle as a link to another page. With a normal rectangle (without any transformation) the works properly, also with text or any kind

[svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread jeff_schiller
Francis, If you're so upset about the extra keystrokes, create yourself a JS function that wraps the setAttributeNS() call up and be done with it. setAttr() should do just fine. Other people may want to make it clearer that what namespace their attribute applies to. I entirely disagree with you

RE: [svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Francis- It's not purist or futuristic. It's how most of us are using SVG today (e.g. Alastair's comment). It is furture-proofing, in part, true, but that's not why we do it correctly; it's because XML, right now, is being used with multiple namespaces. If your only point of reference is using

[svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hi Doug, I was going to try and clip out some of your comments below, but they are all germane. SVG has a base "namespace" that handles 99% of how SVG is applied today. These future needs, very valid, should not be the tail that wags the dog. SVG, at this time, should be trying to provide a com

RE: [svg-developers] setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Francis- You might want to take a look at the SVG-Wiki article on namespaces [1]; I wrote it to outline exactly why namespaces are necessary. | How many of you just love to type about 100 extra keystrokes | for any SVG element you want to create or access? It's only a tiny bit more effort t

[svg-developers] Re: setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Alastair Fettes
I find this to be a useful feature. I use script to create elements under other namespaces and embed them inside my SVG (and other XML dialects) all the time. Also, this post isn't really an SVG post rather a DOM post. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Alastair --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.

[svg-developers] setAttributeNS is dumb,dumb,dumb!

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
OK Developers, How many of you just love to type about 100 extra keystrokes for any SVG element you want to create or access? Would your rather request: createElement("rect"); or, would you like to go through the mind-numbing process of requesting: var svgns = 'http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'; c

[svg-developers] Re: Re: very urgent-tool tip display

2005-10-05 Thread Jim Ley
"Chris Lilley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 9:52:05 PM, Francis wrote: > > FH> Arthy, > FH> you are limiting yourself by using and syntax. > FH> Try including attributes in each element such as title="my title > FH> text" desc="Thi

[svg-developers] Re: very urgent-tool tip display

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
Chris Wrote: > Of course, the reason SVG has elements rather than attributes for this > is that attributes cannot contain markup, which may be needed for some > languages. I'm totally ignorant of the structure of other languages, and their markup needs. I guess there are always opportunities to

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Streetnames text problem

2005-10-05 Thread ddailey
Thanks to Andreas for writing: >.getTotalLength() is your friend when having to find out the total path >length. > >.getPointAtLength() is a way to get the coordinates at a certain length >from the origin. This >way you could equally space elements along the path. --- It worked great.

Re: [svg-developers] Re: very urgent-tool tip display

2005-10-05 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 9:52:05 PM, Francis wrote: FH> Arthy, FH> you are limiting yourself by using and syntax. FH> Try including attributes in each element such as title="my title FH> text" desc="This is my description". Presumably you meant to suggest that these attributes should be

[svg-developers] Re: very urgent-tool tip display

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
Arthy, you are limiting yourself by using and syntax. Try including attributes in each element such as title="my title text" desc="This is my description". Then you can use these attributes anyway you want in your document. You can create your own attribute names in any SVG element: line.setAt

[svg-developers] finds the htm, but not the ID

2005-10-05 Thread bryan_schnabel
Hello, I'm trying to link a string of text in my SVG file to a specific heading in an external html file. The link finds, and opens the html file, but does not find the specific heading (IE). I put this in my svg file: . . . And this in my.htm file: Hello I expect the html file to open d

[svg-developers] Re: measuring things on the screen (like the window)

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
DD, Pharaoh vs Oracle: very nice! Do you think the getBBox() stuff can work for you? Give it a try, just for fun. Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "ddailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In HTML if I want to know how many pixels there are in my browser window > (even though the

[svg-developers] Re: Scale and Translate

2005-10-05 Thread Samuel Dagan
Hi Gary, You have to keep in mind that the order of transformations is done in SVG from the last to the first. So you have first to write first: translation back from the origin to the original location next: scale last: translate the orginal location (that should not move) to the origin. By or

Re: [svg-developers] Call for testing: Mozilla SVG win32 backend switch

2005-10-05 Thread Chris Lilley
On Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:45:42 PM, T wrote: TR> On 9/26/05 7:29 PM, Chris Lilley wrote: >> After some testing I find the following reversions, wrt a recent GDI+ >> build (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) >> Gecko/20050908 Firefox/1.4) TR> Thanks for testing out th

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[svg-developers] Re: Help, I can't create IMAGE!

2005-10-05 Thread algornik7
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Cameron McCormack wrote: > Oh I forgot one more: > > algornik7: > > var shape = svgDocument.createElement("image"); > > var shape = svgdocument.createElementNS(svgns, "image"); > > That should work. > > -- > e-mail : cam (at) mcc.id.au

[svg-developers] Re: Help, I can't create IMAGE!

2005-10-05 Thread algornik7
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Cameron McCormack wrote: > Hi algornik7. > > algornik7: > > shape.setAttribute("xlink:href","some_pic.jpg"); > > You need to use a namespace for this attribute: > > shape.setAttributeNS > ("http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink";, "xlink:href", "some_pi

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Help, I can't create IMAGE!

2005-10-05 Thread Cameron McCormack
Oh I forgot one more: algornik7: > var shape = svgDocument.createElement("image"); var shape = svgdocument.createElementNS(svgns, "image"); That should work. -- e-mail : cam (at) mcc.id.au icq : 26955922 web : http://mcc.id.au/msn : cam-msn (at) aka.m

[svg-developers] Re: Help, I can't create IMAGE!

2005-10-05 Thread algornik7
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Cameron McCormack wrote: > Hi algornik7. > > algornik7: > > shape.setAttribute("xlink:href","some_pic.jpg"); > > You need to use a namespace for this attribute: > > shape.setAttributeNS > ("http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink";, "xlink:href", "some_pi

[svg-developers] very urgent-tool tip display

2005-10-05 Thread arthycharm
Hai, I am using tooltip to display some information.if i create elements seperately then i can give and tag to display the information.but currently i have generated the element(line) in the java script function. i have given the function below. function drawline() { line.setAttribute("id"

[svg-developers] very urgent-tool tip display

2005-10-05 Thread arthycharm
Hai, I am using tooltip to display some information.if i create elements seperately then i can give and tag to display the information.but currently i have generated the element(line) in the java script function. i have given the function below. function drawline() { line.setAttribute("id"

Re: [svg-developers] Help, I can't create IMAGE!

2005-10-05 Thread Cameron McCormack
Hi algornik7. algornik7: > shape.setAttribute("xlink:href","some_pic.jpg"); You need to use a namespace for this attribute: shape.setAttributeNS ("http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink";, "xlink:href", "some_pic.jpg"); -- e-mail : cam (at) mcc.id.au icq : 26955922 web : htt

[svg-developers] Help, I can't create IMAGE!

2005-10-05 Thread algornik7
Hello. I'm writing the programm where I need to create images using SVG and Javascript: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd";> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";;

Re: [svg-developers] SVG animation

2005-10-05 Thread Jeroen Vanattenhoven
Opera 8 supports (natively) some animation (Tiny SVG I believe): http://www.opera.com/features/svg/ If you install Adobe SVG 3, I think it only works for Netscape and Internet Explorer. These combinations should work immediately. You can also use Adobe SVG 3 with Firefox and Opera with some extra

RE: [svg-developers] SVG animation

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Andrew- That combination should work. As a test, you might try IE+ASV3/ASV6pr1. As a newbie, you may be interested to know about the SVG-Wiki [1]. It has links to ASV6 [2]. For some animations that I know work with ASV3, you can look here: [1] http://svg-whiz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_P

[svg-developers] SVG animation

2005-10-05 Thread reindeer21005
I am just a beginner to SVG. I am trying to get animation working. Can someone tell me the right combination of browser and plugin I need ? I have Netscape 8 and installed ASVG 3, and have tried it with Mozilla Firefox and the above plugin. But nothing happens when I try running an animation i

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Open 2006 San Diego?

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
"Andreas Neumann" wrote: > > Personally, I would very regret if the SVG people, community and the > W3C would only go after the mobile market and neglect the desktop. I > think both desktop and mobile can benefit from each other and I > would not separate the two in future SVG.Open conference

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Passing Form Values of Parent Document Using Javascript(DOM) to Embedded SVG

2005-10-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Anthony- Francis' code should work fine in ASV3, but there's a caveat in ASV6pr1: there is no "parent" object, so you will have to use "top" instead. On the SVG-Wiki, there are more details (including a discussion of cross-platform authoring), and links to some examples that work in both IE a

[svg-developers] Re: Linking images with

2005-10-05 Thread jucabapa79
I found that the a xlink works in the code, but only in one section of the pictures i refered in the code below (exactly in the point where is located the objects) but is not working in the rest of the object. So it means that don't work in a rotated image??? Is there another way to make it w

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Open 2006 VICTORIA-It'll be great! (was: SVG Open 2006 VANCOUVER-It'll be great!)

2005-10-05 Thread Francis Hemsher
It's been a long day..what can I say, except I guess that sometimes one should just maybe enjoy a glass or two of Guinnes, and then go to bed, and quit bothering folks. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Francis- > > While you're in Vanco

Re: [svg-developers] Insert a script section in a java generated svg document

2005-10-05 Thread julie gautier
I'm going to try. Thanks a lot. Thomas DeWeese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :Hi Julie, jgfa92004 wrote: > I use Batik to generate a svg document. But I also want to insert a > script section (to insert my own javascript functions) : how can I do > this ? Instead of having the SVGGraphics2D