[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-09 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hey Randy, I missed this post earlier. A few months ago I would probably have not fully understood your comments. But these times are so interesing and dynamic for SVG, that now I am more than hopeful, actually convinced, that you hit the nail straight on its head. Regards, Francis --- In

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-08 Thread Randy George
Hi, I'm catching up on all the svg postings and a bit surprised at the viability concerns. In the larger picture the obvious trend is toward open standards. Corporate enterprise has suddenly discovered open source and open source thrives on open standards. The first generation

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 07, 2005, at 14:11, Ronan Oger wrote: ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For example, there is also the Corel SVG Viewer. Errm, no, no, there isn't. Forget about Corel. But there's Mozzie, which is a fine option as well:

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Jon Ferraiolo
Of Robin Berjon Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:57 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia On Dec 07, 2005, at 15:44, Ronan Oger wrote: Corel is not being developed any more, but it has zero chance of being superceded with a downgraded

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Jon- Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure it will help many people and companies plan any strategies which involve SVG. I know you cannot confirm or deny, but given the advanced development Adobe has done with SVG viewers, I would still hope for the possibility of a new viewer from Adobe,

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread jeff_schiller
Ferraiolo Adobe Systems, Inc. From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Berjon Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:57 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread jeff_schiller
Adobe Systems, Inc. From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Berjon Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:57 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia On Dec

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 2:29:19 PM, Robin wrote: RB On Dec 07, 2005, at 14:11, Ronan Oger wrote: ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For example, there is also the Corel SVG Viewer. RB Errm, no, no, there isn't. Forget about Corel. Well, there is: I still have

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 4:41:05 PM, Jon wrote: JF At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt any JF ASV3 installations or dependencies on ASV3 downloads. If we come out JF with new viewing technology which includes SVG support, we will be JF highly sensitive

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 3:21:02 PM, jeff_schiller wrote: j Here's my take : j http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2005/12/06/the-svg-roller-coaster/ You note there that Opera plans to support CDF in a big way, which is fantastic news.. It is, I agree; part of the point of SVG being in

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread kubik_sj
I kind of miss the old days... when Jon would post a message and everyone would fire-off enemy-type replies. :) How quickly things change. Ever-lurking, Sara Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking.

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:58 AM JF To: Jon Ferraiolo JF Cc: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com JF Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia JF On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 4:41:05 PM, Jon wrote: JF At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt JF any JF ASV3

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread domenico_strazzullo
Hi all, I agree with Francis Hemsher. I read carefully that very good analysis by Jeff Schiller, along with Michael Bierman's responses. I agree with everyone else's observations and comments. I couldn't fail to notice that this situation is very unusual for me, meaning the fact that I agree

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread domenico_strazzullo
Obviously when posting my previous post I hadn't got Jon Ferraiolo's news. But I don't really disagree with what I wrote although I would skip some arguments. It should at least keep Sara happy. Domenico Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread domenico_strazzullo
Obviously when posting my previous post I hadn't got Jon Ferraiolo's news. But I don't really disagree with what I wrote although I would skip some arguments. It should at least keep Sara happy. Domenico Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play?

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Francis Hemsher
I must say something...This thread has raised the hairs on the back of neck: There is something vibrating in the background that tells of a happening for SVG that may be wonderous. I will keep my tent where it is for the time being. Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com,

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Francis Hemsher
Dominico, You are a great poet for SVG. Thanks, Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, domenico_strazzullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously when posting my previous post I hadn't got Jon Ferraiolo's news. But I don't really disagree with what I wrote although I would skip some

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hi Jon, I need some help from Adobe. I've been working on an SVG app that provides real-time updates to a global map that tracks the Avian Flu. There is a sampler online at: http://www.mobiusPortal.com/AvianFlu/viewPort_AF.asp On January 1, a global simulation of a pandemic will be presented

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-06 Thread Michael Bierman
GoLive? ;) Michael --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Antoine Quint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 déc. 2005, at 09:52, Doug Schepers wrote: Yes, that's good news, thanks. It's clear, though, that they did not include SVG-Full or sXBL in that continued support. Anyone heard

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-06 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hi Domenico, I believe, unless IE7 picks up SVG and runs with it, we're all dead in the water, and should pick up our tents and move to another tribe. Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, domenico_strazzullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. Just wish things could speed up. Imagine

[svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-05 Thread domenico_strazzullo
I know. Just wish things could speed up. Imagine Adobe shutting down asv download page, then the transition period could be fatal. I've always been optimistic all the time but now I kind of find it difficult. I mean FF it's good it's going to be there at some point, but how long can it take?