Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread C.E. Forman
> Seriously, I do seem to remember there was a difference between the CD > version and the floppy version. Though given RTZ's lack of appeal I > would agree that the floppy version is of interest to collectors and > RTZ fanatics. Which is a bit of a shame. I liked the way they did the > user int

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: It's just incredible handy to stuff gobs of 5.25 or 3.5 inch backups on a CD-R or DVD-R. Amen, brother! That's my goal. I've got a ton of disks to back up and get rid of so I can reclaim a little bit of space. It's even handier to back up 6+ CDs onto a single DVD-R. DVD+/D

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Edward Franks stated: > >You might also >check out want media brands your CD-R drive recommends, if any. Good idea. > No name generics have spotty quality. I've seen some fail in less >than a year. That said, even CD-Rs won't last as long as the factory >press CD-ROMs games come on the

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 20, 2004, at 11:19 PM, Lee K. Seitz wrote: [Snip] I have yet to make serious use of my CD-R drive, sad to say. (However, I actually went through all my unlabeled 3.5" disks the other day and made some quick notes on most of them as to what they had on them. Now I just gotta doe the 5.25" on

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah but you had to be careful. If it started to write the disk could be corrupted and you lose it all. I would usually make a copy of my save disk (with Wizardry it was autosave so VERY important) so I would be protected if my disk was ruined by a "pull" Yes, but I was

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 01/22/2004 12:21:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God, yes!!  Those were the days -- days when you were actually faster than your computer.  I remember frantically ripping the disk out too. Yeah but you had to be careful. If it started to write the disk c

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-22 Thread Dan Chisarick
Guilty of the exact same thing. My friend was over one day and say "Why don't you try walking around instead of just rebooting?" Then I remember frantically searching FOR the whirlpool not long afterwards. Ultima III is on the top 5 games I want to replay. On Jan 22, 2004, at 1:08 AM, Jim Le

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
My dad and I used to do this with the original Wizardry. : ) Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s Edward Franks wrote: > I can remember play

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Jim Leonard
Edward Franks wrote: I can remember playing Ultima III and trying to beat the disk drive if my party died. It was a bad habit to get into though.I used to restart the game when a whirlpool nailed my ship God, yes!! Those were the days -- days when you were actually faster than you

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 21, 2004, at 5:24 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: - The CDROM version of Return to Zork was produced in greater numbers than the floppy-disk version, so theoretically the diskette version is worth more. Rarer, but not necessarily worth more, except maybe to a few collectors or RTZ fanatics. Who wa

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
Then you leave it in my capable hands. B-) - Original Message - From: "Stuart Feldhamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:22 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s > I refuse to accept responsibility for this

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
I refuse to accept responsibility for this decision. : ) Stuart -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s Yep, I found him right away. His eBay ID too. LMK if

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
> - The CDROM version of Return to Zork was produced in greater numbers > than the floppy-disk version, so theoretically the diskette version is > worth more. Rarer, but not necessarily worth more, except maybe to a few collectors or RTZ fanatics. Who wants to actually play the floppy version, in

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
Yep, I found him right away. His eBay ID too. LMK if you want him on my jerk-list, he definitely qualifies. >B-} - Original Message - From: "Feldhamer, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 20, 2004, at 10:31 PM, Jim Leonard wrote: [Snip] Or am I the only one who executed a round of attacks in an RPG and sat with baited breath while the disk drive paused, whirred, taunting me with the result until finally the results were printed? I can remember playing Ultima III and trying

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Pedro Quaresma
To me, games in 5.25 floppies are more valuable than their 3.5 counterparts. Why? The extra sleeves. Some games have really nice sleeves on their 5.25 games. The Softworld edition of the Origin (Ultima/Wing Commander) games spring to mind -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Edward Franks stated: > > I have backups of all my important stuff on high quality CD-Rs, so I'm >pretty safe there. I'm also a sucker for CD-ROM compilations for ease >of installation. I have yet to make serious use of my CD-R drive, sad to say. (However, I actually went through all my

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Dan Chisarick wrote: At the hight of my media conversion insanity, I had everything on a 4-port KVM. Now all the old machines are on their own network. I used a P-90 running Windows 98 w/a 5.25" Gateway drive that I sold and later asked for it back (they weren't using it). I also have a CPS Opt

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Howard Feldman wrote: So I can still use it as a 5.25" drive, or a 3.5" drive, just not both at the same time. I must open the computer and switch jumpers to get it to work! So in summary, watch out before buying Asus Motherboards!!! (Can anyone list decent contemporary M/B manufacturers whos

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Edward Franks wrote: Who needs mo'slo when you can play Ultima 2 in all its CGA glory? ;-) You know, this brings up something that I've always maintained: No matter how convenient an emulator is, or how much it enhances or speeds up a game (ie making the game more 'snappy' because there are n

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Dan Chisarick
Ok, someone who collects classic games and they're surprised by a 5.25" disk? They got the "shame on me" part right, but have no right being upset at you, and doubly so for not talking to you first. At the hight of my media conversion insanity, I had everything on a 4-port KVM. Now all the old m

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 01/20/2004 12:27:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got no response. Did I do something wrong here? More generally, what is the opinion of the people on this list regarding a game that came in two versions: one on 5.25 inch disks and one on 3.5 inch disks?

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Marco Thorek
Edward Franks schrieb: > > It is going to get even worse. My current motherboard doesn't even > support a B: drive! As I need the 3.5 inch drive as my A: drive this > means I'll need to keep an older PC around just to deal with 5.25 > floppies. But how many people have room or even want

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 20, 2004, at 3:35 PM, Jim Leonard wrote: Edward Franks wrote: It is going to get even worse. My current motherboard doesn't even support a B: drive! What motherboard? Asus P4C800 Deluxe. When I updated my PC this summer I went for one of the 800 MHz front side bus motherboards. No

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Howard Feldman
Myself, I've still got a handy Teac 'combo' 3.5/5.25 drive which I picked up maybe 5 years ago for about $50. It worked great and only needed a floppy cable with a single connector, and even supports swapping drive A and B with jumpers (if the BIOS doesnt allow this). So you can imagine how p

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 20, 2004, at 2:48 PM, Lee K. Seitz wrote: [Snip] On this list or in the general population? 8) I think you'll find most of this list has some older hardware tucked away for just such occasions. I was mainly thinking of the average gamer. For people like us I take it as a given we have mu

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: I'm curious, though. How many people here with older hardware keep it set up all the time, network it with their current systems, and/or use KVM switches to reduce the clutter? I have a "worktable" that I use for building/repairing stuff, and that's where the 286 sits along wi

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Per-Olof Karlsson wrote: I recently built a new machine and attempted to get an old dual drive like this working but couldn't :-( Light was constantly on, like the cable was bad. I'll try again. That does sound like a bad cable, or even a good cable turned 180 degrees. Bad cable. Turned it 1

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
--Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s Lee K. Seitz wrote: > I would hope anyone interested in vintage games would be knowledgable > enough about the item(s) t

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Per-Olof Karlsson
>I recently built a new machine and attempted to get an old dual drive >like this working but couldn't :-( Light was constantly on, like the >cable was bad. I'll try again. That does sound like a bad cable, or even a good cable turned 180 degrees. - Peo

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: I would hope anyone interested in vintage games would be knowledgable enough about the item(s) they want to know what format(s) it was available on and ask if they knew it came on more than one. It was very rude for them to give you negative feedback without e-mailing you first

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Edward Franks wrote: It is going to get even worse. My current motherboard doesn't even support a B: drive! What motherboard? > As I need the 3.5 inch drive as my A: drive this Do you really? While I get nervous thinking about not having a floppy drive in my machine, it is entirely poss

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Per-Olof Karlsson wrote: There used to be floppy drives you could connect to the parallel port.. Try looking for one of these, I'm sure they'll work just fine even today. :) Not for the copy-protection on older games, they won't... -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gamin

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Leonard
Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: "The value of a 5.25 set is considerably less than 3.5s." ..to HIM, because he only wanted to play the game. Not to collectors. Read on: What is the opinion of the people on this list regarding a game that came in two versions: one on 5.25 inch disks and one on 3.5 inch

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread hughfalk
cassette drive :-). Hugh -Original Message- From: "Feldhamer, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jan 20, 2004 1:26 PM To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s What do you all think of this: I made a trade w

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Edward Franks stated: > > It is going to get even worse. My current motherboard doesn't even >support a B: drive! As I need the 3.5 inch drive as my A: drive this >means I'll need to keep an older PC around just to deal with 5.25 >floppies. But how many people have room or even want an

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Feldhamer, Stuart stated: > >Did I do something wrong here? More generally, what is >the opinion of the people on this list regarding a game that came in two >versions: one on 5.25 inch disks and one on 3.5 inch disks? Are the 3.5 inch >disks more valuable? I don't know that one is more valuable t

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s There used to be floppy drives you could connect to the parallel port.. Try looking for one of these, I'm sure they'll work just fine even today. :) There are also quite recent thingies that let you connect a 3.5" drive via U

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Per-Olof Karlsson
internally and a 3.5" via USB) Cheers, Peo -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 20 januari 2004 19:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s On Jan 20, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: [Snip] > I got no respon

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 20, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: [Snip] I got no response. Did I do something wrong here? More generally, what is the opinion of the people on this list regarding a game that came in two versions: one on 5.25 inch disks and one on 3.5 inch disks? Are the 3.5 inch disks more

[SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-20 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
What do you all think of this: I made a trade with someone on the game trading zone for a particular game. I won't tell you which one so you won't try to figure out who it was. Anyway, I described the condition of the game I was sending in some detail. We made the trade, and then noticed that the