Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-20 Thread Karl Kuras
From: "Jim Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Actually, it makes perfect sense to reinvent these things since one of > the whole points of consoles is to keep costs down so that you can make > money on the hardware. I'm not sure... you have to remember that reinventing stuff costs a lot of R&D dollar

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Jim Leonard
Karl Kuras wrote: > > vs. Capcom 2). Also, lets face it, console games were starting to get > really held down by the lack of things such as harddrives and network cards, > and there is no reason (or financial sense) in reinventing the wheel when > these things already exist. Actually, it makes

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Karl Kuras
From: "Jim Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Agreed, but even then I have to stress again that the X-Box is the first > "console" that doesn't fit the traditional mold of console (custom > hardware, bus, and OS; built from the ground up to be a gaming console). True it doesn't, but I like to think o

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Jim Leonard
Karl Kuras wrote: > > Well, hate to break it to you, but you chose the worse source in the world > for this one. Gaming Age articles are mostly written by amateurs who get > their rumors off newsgroups. I spoke to the manager of an EB who happens to > be a computer science mager (aka Programmer

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Karl Kuras
From: "Pedro Quaresma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >It wasnt' the CD Drive failing. The demo cd's that they sent out were bad > >burns. I have a friend who manages an EB and he said that a whole batch > of > >the CD's were bad, causing the problem to be huge. Not a software glitch > >(as far as codin

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > >At no point did I promote the X-Box as a good console. Come up with > >*ANY* other report of a console crashing (NOT x-box). > > No, you never promoted xbox, but you said "consoles whip all computer > platforms anyway since they never crash" (hey, it's right there 11

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Jim Leonard wrote: >Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > > > > You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound > > card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings? > > >What the heck is "reducing sound card accleration?" > > Hmmm. I remember a slide bar somewhere about t

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > > > > You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound > > card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings? > > >What the heck is "reducing sound card accleration?" > > Hmmm. I remember a slide bar somewhere about the sound card... ma

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Pedro Quaresma
> Does any of the following ring a bell: Neverwinter Nights, Soldier of > Fortune, Deux Ex, Jagged Alliance 2, Descent 3, Heavy Metal FAKK 2, Kohan, > Rune, Railroad Tycoon 2, Sin, Shogo, Tribes 2, etcetc? >How many of these are less then a year and a half plus old? Well, these are portings of

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Karl Kuras
> Does any of the following ring a bell: Neverwinter Nights, Soldier of > Fortune, Deux Ex, Jagged Alliance 2, Descent 3, Heavy Metal FAKK 2, Kohan, > Rune, Railroad Tycoon 2, Sin, Shogo, Tribes 2, etcetc? How many of these are less then a year and a half plus old? > Consoles never crash? What's

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-19 Thread Pedro Quaresma
> > You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound > card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings? >What the heck is "reducing sound card accleration?" Hmmm. I remember a slide bar somewhere about the sound card... maybe it was some completely different t

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Karl Kuras wrote: > > From: "Jim Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Consoles have had 3D on the horizon long, long before 3D accelerated > > cards arrived for the PC > > I'm not arguing about 3D accelerators, I'm talking about 3D games (Wing > Commander, Ultima Underworld, Wolfenstein, Doom et al)

RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Hugh Falk
game...not the fault of the OS or the hardware. Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock Pedro Quar

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2001-11-16 Thread Hugh Falk
. Hugh -Original Message- From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock From: "Hugh Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > App

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > >2) I RARELY crash. I'm using Windows Me. > > Worst OS ever :) > > >Going through normal use > >(Outlook, Word, Excel, FrontPage, various shareware utilities, and a bunch > >of games) I might have a crash once every couple of weeks. This is > >acceptable to me. > >

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > Who knows where we would be if Windows never existed? We could be using for > example AmigaOS, which handled multitasking better than most other OSes. Or At the time, it was the only mainstream multitasking OS so I'm not sure what you're comparing it with. Hopefully no

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound > card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings? What the heck is "reducing sound card accleration?" I only tweak GFX if I'm trying to overclock and get better performance :) > >But

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2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > But this wasn't not a DOS vs Windows issue. If Windows had never existed we > would be much better with other stable OSes out there. And we'd still have > games. Be careful in your advocacy -- Linux has only recently earned the "stable" moniker. SVGAlib used to bring y

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Karl Kuras wrote: > > never had to reset any of my system configurations (with the exception of 16 > bit or 32 bit color... hate when a game won't accept 32bit color... anyone > know what the problem is with that from a coding stand point?) for a windows > program... it just runs. Laziness or ar

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games(wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > Memmaker was not optimal. I could get better results by configuring > config.sys & autoexec.bat myself, usually involving, IIRC, > shadowing/unshadowing memory and other interesting tricks. > I remember I used to get more than 600k base memory even with sound card > and

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: > > >I'm not entirely sure I'd call Gates a gangster or snake-oil salesman -- > >that's Balmer's job and always has been. :-) > > Even before he became CEO? What did he do before? Biz guy. It's always been his job to wheel and deal. > >My only real lament with the rise

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Karl Kuras
From: "Hugh Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Apple would be #1, DOS would be where Apple is today (Maybe with GEM or > Geoworks as the shell), and Atari/Commodore (sadly) would be where they are > today. I don't know if Commodore would be where it is now had it not been for Windows... granted they wer

RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma
>2) I RARELY crash. I'm using Windows Me. Worst OS ever :) >Going through normal use >(Outlook, Word, Excel, FrontPage, various shareware utilities, and a bunch >of games) I might have a crash once every couple of weeks. This is >acceptable to me. This may sound strange for regular Windows

RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Hugh Falk
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock Who knows where we would be if Windows never existed? We could be using for example AmigaOS, which handled multitasking better than most other OSes. Or MacOS which is even "easi

RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Hugh Falk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 16/11/01 14:54 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A/C: Ref: cc:

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2001-11-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma
e would all be on Apples right now. That would work for me as well. Hugh -Original Message- From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wa

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2001-11-16 Thread Hugh Falk
ware. If Windows never existed we would all be on Apples right now. That would work for me as well. Hugh -Original Message- From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Ki

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2001-11-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma
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2001-11-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma
>If your game crashes...you have a complaint with the game, not the operating >system (usually). Not really. So many games work on machine A,B & C, but not in D, but others only seem to work on C & D but not on A & B... >Poorly written/tested games will crash (or at least not >work properly) un

RE: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Hugh Falk
OTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock Memmaker was not optimal. I could get better results by configuring config.sys & autoexec.bat myself, usually involving, IIRC, shadowing/unshadowing memory and other interesting tricks.

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Karl Kuras
From: "Pedro Quaresma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Memmaker was not optimal. I could get better results by configuring > config.sys & autoexec.bat myself, usually involving, IIRC, > shadowing/unshadowing memory and other interesting tricks. > I remember I used to get more than 600k base memory even with

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2001-11-16 Thread Chris Newman
QEMM was better at optimizing memory usage than DOS 6.22. There were several games that needed QEMM to run on my machine, because DOS' MemMaker wouldn't cut it. Pedro Quaresma wrote: > EA, MacDonalds, and now Windows... you're scaring me, Hugh! ;) > > >I'm not thrilled with everything about Win

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2001-11-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma
EA, MacDonalds, and now Windows... you're scaring me, Hugh! ;) >I'm not thrilled with everything about Windows; however, as a gamer...I >don't see how you can't think Windows 95 and later made life MUCH better. No, it hasn't. As a gamer, I'd rather have one of the old OSes that wouldn't crash.

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Jim Leonard wrote: >Chris Newman wrote: > > What's the story? Is MS abusing its relationship with NBC? Where'd you hear the > rumors? > Yes, I'm very interested in that. Gates is part snake oil salesman, part gangster, > and all > opportunist. >Rumor has it that Microsoft offered to 1. ignore e

Re: OT Gates (was: [SWCollect] Rogue (was Killer Games (was Soccer Games (wasshock))))

2001-11-15 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Chris Newman wrote: >What's the story? Is MS abusing its relationship with NBC? Where'd you hear the >rumors? >Yes, I'm very interested in that. Me too. Seriously, I am. I love MS-bashing stories >Gates is part snake oil salesman, part gangster, and all opportunist. ROFL! :D I couldn't have pu